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[Sajuro]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

I hate the Yahg. They're an ugly-Sue race that, though the Broker, supplanted the Krogan in toughness, the Salarians in craftiness, and the Asari in being an all-knowing-wisdom ******.

Yes, they are a bunch of Mary Sues because one was smarter than most Yahg. They are, for the most part, violent brutes.

[AntiChri5]

I suggest you reread the codex entry.

[vehzeel]

Blackbelt749 wrote...

vehzeel wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

I hate the Yahg. They're an ugly-Sue race that, though the Broker, supplanted the Krogan in toughness, the Salarians in craftiness, and the Asari in being an all-knowing-wisdom ******.

If the Yagh world is in the databanks of the Citadel (which it is, since contact has been made), the Reapers will know about them and kill them off if they succeed with their routine. In another 50k years, they'll be too advanced for the Reapers to handle.

The Protheans made contact with early humans (you find this out on a side quest, after having completed certain side quests in ME1). As we all know, the Reapers didn't go after us 50,000 years ago. I do agree that the Reapers would kill them off because of their technology level (as compared to the cavemen the Protheans knew about).

I wouldn't say "made contact with" regarding the early humans and protheans. The protheans studied early humans, but there was no real civilization to speak of for the protheans to make contact with. Still, you're right it is a little weird the Reapers didn't come visit Earth last time around (they seem to have had no problem wiping out a bronze age civilization according to a planet description in ME2). Or maybe they knew about us and chose not to wipe us out as it was yet too early. It is a little strange they haven't kept a closer eye on humanity though.

[Praetor Knight]

vehzeel wrote...

Blackbelt749 wrote...

The Protheans made contact with early humans (you find this out on a side quest, after having completed certain side quests in ME1). As we all know, the Reapers didn't go after us 50,000 years ago. I do agree that the Reapers would kill them off because of their technology level (as compared to the cavemen the Protheans knew about).

I wouldn't say "made contact with" regarding the early humans and protheans. The protheans studied early humans, but there was no real civilization to speak of for the protheans to make contact with. Still, you're right it is a little weird the Reapers didn't come visit Earth last time around (they seem to have had no problem wiping out a bronze age civilization according to a planet description in ME2). Or maybe they knew about us and chose not to wipe us out as it was yet too early. It is a little strange they haven't kept a closer eye on humanity though.

Well it is not explicitly stated that it is the Protheans that were seen in the Vision, merely something using "Prothean" Tech (and the Prothean data recorder is mentioned more in passing; wondering if it was, then in certainty), which is more likely Reaper Tech.

Also, remember the Vision mentions a Cro-Magnon Hunter, so that could have been as far back as 200,000 years ago to 100,000 years ago, of course, if Mass Effect assumes and is using that time for the Cro-Magnon Hunter in the Vision.

[lovgreno]

Interesting theory Praetor. It would make sense for the reapers to keep an eye on the growing crops.

[Dean_the_Young]

It could be the Reapers, or even the Protheans' Protheans.

[Praetor Knight]

lovgreno wrote...

Interesting theory Praetor. It would make sense for the reapers to keep an eye on the growing crops.

Well the Citadel was not made by the Protheans either, and possibly most of the Mass Relays, so like the Asari the Protheans just used what was there.

What I wonder is, since the architecture is so similar, can one tell if it's one species or another using that tech to study humans on Earth, without some other evidence? And how much of the Prothean Data Discs and Systems have been decoded and understood from Mars?

As far as I remember the FTL travel and other tech was reverse engineered from the working ships and other equipment, not necesarily from studing schematics.

[The Spamming Troll]

id take a yahg squadmate. no doubt. id make him be my cook too. screw mess sergeant gardner.

[Praetor Knight]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

id take a yahg squadmate. no doubt. id make him be my cook too. screw mess sergeant gardner.

Hmm... I just had a crazy thought, what if we allow Miranda to experiment with the control chip tech she mentioned to Shep, on a Yahg? That way there is at least something to help counter its Apex Predator instincts.

Worth a shot right?

[vehzeel]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

id take a yahg squadmate. no doubt. id make him be my cook too. screw mess sergeant gardner.

Hmm... I just had a crazy thought, what if we allow Miranda to experiment with the control chip tech she mentioned to Shep, on a Yahg? That way there is at least something to help counter its Apex Predator instincts.

Worth a shot right?

Yeah, Yaghs are worth a shot. To the head.

[Praetor Knight]

vehzeel wrote...

Yeah, Yaghs are worth a shot. To the head.

Only way to be sure.

[Bad King]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

vehzeel wrote...

Blackbelt749 wrote...

The Protheans made contact with early humans (you find this out on a side quest, after having completed certain side quests in ME1). As we all know, the Reapers didn't go after us 50,000 years ago. I do agree that the Reapers would kill them off because of their technology level (as compared to the cavemen the Protheans knew about).

I wouldn't say "made contact with" regarding the early humans and protheans. The protheans studied early humans, but there was no real civilization to speak of for the protheans to make contact with. Still, you're right it is a little weird the Reapers didn't come visit Earth last time around (they seem to have had no problem wiping out a bronze age civilization according to a planet description in ME2). Or maybe they knew about us and chose not to wipe us out as it was yet too early. It is a little strange they haven't kept a closer eye on humanity though.

Well it is not explicitly stated that it is the Protheans that were seen in the Vision, merely something using "Prothean" Tech (and the Prothean data recorder is mentioned more in passing; wondering if it was, then in certainty), which is more likely Reaper Tech.

Also, remember the Vision mentions a Cro-Magnon Hunter, so that could have been as far back as 200,000 years ago to 100,000 years ago, of course, if Mass Effect assumes and is using that time for the Cro-Magnon Hunter in the Vision.

100,000 years ago, humans would still be in Africa. Cro-magnons were European paleolithic hunters, so they wouldn't have been around until 50,000 years ago at the very oldest (and that's a big stretch- the oldest Cro-magnon remains found are dated to ~30,000 years ago).

But anyway, a Yahg squaddie would be awesome. He could be a tank-tech (an engineer with some tank abilities like Legion's Geth Shield Boost or Tech Armour).

Modifié par Bad King, 06 décembre 2010 - 05:45 .

[Praetor Knight]

Bad King wrote...

100,000 years ago, humans would still be in Africa. Cro-magnons were European paleolithic hunters, so they wouldn't have been around until 50,000 years ago at the very oldest (and that's a big stretch- the oldest Cro-magnon remains found are dated to ~30,000 years ago).

Well, all that I would like to add is that you can't forget how different climate and geography was back then.

It is known that during that last periods of glaciation that the ocean's were much lower so there was low lands that were settled that are today submerged. Sites vary from the Black Sea region, India, Japan, Greek waters, Iraq's river delta of the four rivers, the Bering Strait and else where. So there are alternatives to the Africa origin theory.

Problems arise with finding clean samples to date, as you said, some of the oldest Cro-Magnon samples are around ~30,000 years old, but genetic sequencing shows some interesting clues, it's just hard to prove or disprove much, without more evidence.

[Rekkampum]

Nope. It would be a glitch and programming nightmare.

[Homey C-Dawg]

Shepard recruits Yahg.



Yahg eats Shepard and squad



Player plays as Yahg, conquers reapers and galaxy.

[Lucky Ozokas]

Wow, this would definitely be interesting and also a challenge to get a Yahg into Squad.

I actually like the idea... in a way.
But this race still needs to be kept under control.
Looking at the big picture here reminds us that the whole universe is in danger.
Reapers see resistence and threat in humans - reason they begin wiping out Earth first.
So, in general I don't mind at all if a well developed intelligent Yahg joins squishing the Reapers.

Plus I am still hoping live Protheans to be revealed and maybe one even joining the Squad in Mass Effect 3.
Prothean knowledge has somehow survived so far - the efforts were too great for them to be extinct like this.
There must have been an essential prepared group of smartest who escaped and live in exile somewhere.
Such massacre gave a lesson that nobody ever wants to go through again. Info needed to be shared.
Protheans gave everything they could. The Beacon, Vigil etc... So, lets not loose hope.

Back to Yahg fans. I kinda hope for this squadmate too - this would definitely give an experience.
Should you want to obtain a Yahg from Parnack make sure to beat the creature with an option:
a) dominance through social maneuvering
dominance through brute force

Here is exactly what WIKI says
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Yahg

Once the leader is established, the defeated yahg do not hold a grudge and former rivals serve their new superior loyally.

Sure we can manage without a Yahg, but it is always good to have choices -
choices & variety between different characters, races, talents and skills.
So, why not in ME3 - it would be the first time to have one in Squad.

Yes the size of a Yahg will be a challenge if they don't shrink it.
I can't imagine it crawling and hiding like other squadmates )
But we humans have solution to everything - yes?

Anyway, promos and news are promising pretty much.
This better be EPIC as they say! )

Modifié par Lucky Ozokas, 23 juillet 2011 - 12:43 .

[BentOrgy]

Is this a new fad or something? Some kind of Necro-fetish?

Or are we just playing Cerberus, and trying to resurrect things hoping they'll be worth something?

[eternalnightmare13]

 No. I do not want a krogan on meth - aka ''yagh''.

[Notho]

No thanks.