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COGlory

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My friend's got a Windows 7 Sony Vaio, with a mobility Radeon 4250.  

I know that a normal 4250 will run ME 2, but will the laptop version work?  They're usually weaker, or so I hear.   

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Gorath Alpha

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1. There is no desktop card from AMD lower than an HD 4570 that can be used and will work generally as the game was designed for it to work. Not even an HD 5450 works entirely correctly. The HD 4350 and 5450 are business graphics cards meant to handle charts, graphs, presentations, and spreadsheets, not games.

2. TTBOMK, there is no such thing as any discrete graphics CARD with a number such as "4250", only a mere onboard CHIP.

3. A video CARD can actually have VRAM attached to it. It is assembled on its own individual circuit board and after assembly, then it is joined to a separately assembled mainboard. That is true whether it is mobile, or if it's in a desktop.

4.  The CHIP video is only a piece of a chip; it is buried inside of a larger chip that is the chipset chip. 

www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Radeon-HD-4250.29664.0.html

www.google.com/search

This is in the Dragon Age Archives, but it summarizes the information about junk type video options such as your friend's trash part:

Very basic discussion of video cards, video chips, PhysX, and even of laptops' limits: 
http://social.biowar...58/index/519461

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 06 décembre 2010 - 01:10 .


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Gorath Alpha

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Refer to this ranking and you will see no mention there of the low end stuff such as you are asking about:

Video Card Shader Performance Rankings (ME-2):
http://social.biowar...6/index/1713086

                    ME2

PC MINIMUM System Requirements
OS = Windows XP SP3 / Windows Vista SP1 / Windows 7
Processor = 1.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo or equivalent AMD CPU
Memory = 1 GB RAM for Windows XP / 2 GB RAM for Windows Vista and Windows 7
Hard Drive = 15 GB
DVD ROM = 1x Speed
Sound Card = DirectX 9.0c compatible
Direct X = DirectX 9.0c August 2008 (included)
Input = Keyboard / Mouse
Video Card = 256 MB (with Pixel Shader 3.0 support). Supported GPU Chips: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 or greater; ATI Radeon X1600 Pro or greater. Please note that NVIDIA GeForce G.210, 7100, 7200, 7300, 7400, 7500, 8100, 8200, 8300, 8400, 9100, 9200, and 9300; ATI Radeon X1300, X1550, HD 2400, 3100, 3200, HD 3450, HD 3470, HD 4200, (we can add the HD 4250 right here), HD 4350, and (probably) HD 5450 are below minimum system requirements. Updates to your video and sound card drivers may be required. Intel  and S3 video devices are not officially supported in Mass Effect 2.

PC RECOMMENDED System Requirements
Windows XP SP3 / Windows Vista SP1 / Windows 7
2.6+ GHz Cure 2 Duo Intel or equivalent AMD CPU
2 GB RAM
ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT, or better, recommended
100% DirectX compatible sound card and drivers
DirectX August 2008

This next is Bioware's own quote:
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[quote]Thomas_R_Roy wrote...

Ok so I think for some of you the problem is the low framerate. For now, the best solution is for you to get a faster framerate. You can get this by reducing your resolution. We made a technical decision that the game would rely on the framerate being at least a certain level.

[/quote]
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/106/index/2246182

Use the Search with the single word from the phrase weapons locker (where you must arm yourself starting the tutorial)

"Your search for « locker » returned 14 result/s."

social.bioware.com/forum/1/search

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 06 décembre 2010 - 11:01 .


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COGlory

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Obviously, I read the system requirements, and I also found this video here:





I've got a good understanding of how video cards vs video chips work, but I also found this:



http://answers.yahoo...12133727AASDhwk



The memory isn't a problem, it's just the shader support I'm worried about. Thanks for the detailed information though. Has anyone run it on a 4250 mobility?


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Actually, it just occurred to me that there's a demo.

Modifié par COGlory, 05 décembre 2010 - 09:24 .


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No one will give you a guarantee that Mass Effect 2 will work on an integrated graphics chips. They aren't made for games, and even if it runs, performance is guaranteed to be horrendous.

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Well, I'll post once he downloads the demo and runs it. At the rate he's been playing (11 hours in one day of ME1) he'll be to ME2 in no time.

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^The game manages to run on an intel x4500M so if your chip is stronger than that it should run.



Granted you get the ribbon effect on people's faces/armor on that chip...




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It will run... more like crawl... but still run.



P.S.

If it's 4XXX, then you're all set with shader support. It's that it will be waaaaay too slow you should worry about.

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Gorath Alpha

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Gorath Alpha wrote...

This is Bioware's own quote:

Thomas_R_Roy wrote...

Ok so I think for some of you the problem is the low framerate. For now, the best solution is for you to get a faster framerate. You can get this by reducing your resolution. We made a technical decision that the game would rely on the framerate being at least a certain level.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/106/index/2246182

Use the Search with the single word from the phrase weapons locker (where you must arm yourself, starting the tutorial)

"Your search for « locker » returned 14 result/s."

social.bioware.com/forum/1/search

That last is all that is needed to tell.  They are two different games, and low end junk was purposely eliminated by the 15-20 FPS limitation they applied. 

Gorath

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 07 décembre 2010 - 12:50 .