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[Urrinor]

It does look roughly similar in my opnion... I mean, Ferelden is almost in the right place, and Rivain/antiva... It could be that te ones who designed that map were subconsciously influenced by Europe



Btw, Portugal is yet to be represented in any way in any fictional setting... are we that small

[MortalEngines]

shepard_lives wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

I can see Ferelden being in roughly the right spot, and possibly Antiva/Rivain being approximately where one would expect to find Spain. But Orlais is French and the Anderfels is German and... well, I'm not sure what you think this proves. If you're suggesting that physically Thedas is an upside-down Europe that's... quite a stretch, to say the least.

As a European, I agree with David.

I also agree, as a former geography student and british citizen, I must say, that when I first saw the OP I was like "Wah? This looks nothing like europe", only thing sort of similar is Antiva = Spain and other than that, the rest is a real stretch, especially Fereldan = Britain, sure they have the same accent but that's where the similarity ends, Britain is an island off of the french coast (well quite a bit off) and not connecting to any other country (excluding Scotland and Wales which are part of Britain). Fereldan is a mass of land connected to Orlais. 

[Fishy]

So Map look like Europe..Which one?

Modifié par Suprez30, 05 décembre 2010 - 10:19 .

[The Masked Rog]

Urrinor wrote...

It does look roughly similar in my opnion... I mean, Ferelden is almost in the right place, and Rivain/antiva... It could be that te ones who designed that map were subconsciously influenced by Europe

Btw, Portugal is yet to be represented in any way in any fictional setting... are we that small

I've often compared Portugal to the Qunari, discovering and absorbing new lands through naval exploration. Probably not what the writers thought of when creating the Qunari though.

[nightcobra]

The Masked Rog wrote...

Urrinor wrote...

It does look roughly similar in my opnion... I mean, Ferelden is almost in the right place, and Rivain/antiva... It could be that te ones who designed that map were subconsciously influenced by Europe

Btw, Portugal is yet to be represented in any way in any fictional setting... are we that small

I've often compared Portugal to the Qunari, discovering and absorbing new lands through naval exploration. Probably not what the writers thought of when creating the Qunari though.

a bit too organized to be portuguese i think, but i'd like to think of them as such...if nothing else because i love the qunari design and that i'm portuguese myself. 

so qunari are portuguese borg, it is now established:innocent:

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 05 décembre 2010 - 10:21 .

[KhorinShizucor]

While I can see a few similarities, we have to remember that the continent in the Thedas map is below the equator.

[NvVanity]

Shape wise its pretty close. Except for some reason the Germans (Anderfels) decided to take the Byzantines spot, the French took over Scandinavia and a few of the countries around the Baltic, and don't get me started on the Romans/Byzantine (Tevinter) they don't even have a peninsula shaped like a boot.

[Mikka-chan]

Btw, Portugal is yet to be represented in any way in any fictional setting... are we that small

Portugal's Europe's Canada.  By which I mean the two countries are all like, "Yo!  Hey!  We're here!  Being reasonable and doing things!  Really!  ...Oh come on, world, we're awesome!  We have cool things!  We're not crazy!  Come visit us!" and the world goes "Oh, right, you're... uh... who, again?  Wait..." and Canada/Portugal get together and sob in a bar all "VIMEY RIDGE DAMMNIT"/"I WAS AN EMPIRE DAMMNIT" and then America/Spain pops up and is all "Aw, I remember you, little brother!" and Canada/Portugal is like "...No, you're the younger one, and shut up, I don't want you remembering me" and America/Spain is like ":(  Awww I remember you and love you even though you mock me all the time" and Canada/Portagul is all "...Like you don't mock *me*- oh god, don't start crying, stupid, c'mon" and everyone drinks together and all is well until they're sober again and still no one's figured out who Canada/Portugal is and can't UK hang out with them for a while they never get to do that anymore-

And Australia and New Zealand are still in a corner arguing about which of them gets ignored more often and little Liechtenstein is crying about how only Switzerland remembers her....

...The on topic police are going to hit me, aren't they? ;;

'Moorish Spain', though... up to the 1140's, that meant not only what would become Spain, but also what would become Portagul as well (save for that small part that was in the hands of the Kingdom of Leon).  I'm not sure if Rivainis takes more from Córdoba or from Al-Andalus, but either way, there's parts of both what will be Portagul and what will be Spain in it.  So I guess that sort of counts?

Spain actually sort of got lucky.  Sure, Antiva is definitely based on an Italian City State, but one can find some traces of Spain in there (see: accents, and hey, Spain ruled some Italian City States for a while), and Navarra isn't based on Spain either as far as I know but does seem to have a few Spanish influences as well (see: the name).  Add in Rivain, and one could almost feel well liked.  ^^

I wonder where Navarra does take other influences from... I don't think that's been mentioned.  Hm.

[NvVanity]

Nevarra seems to have ranged from being thought of as Spain, Prussia, Slavic-ish, Russian, etc.



I predict they will turn out to be none other then...Hungary...and they will have inaccurate phrase books that make them say the wrong things.

[Lord Zeuss]

Mikka-chan wrote...

Btw, Portugal is yet to be represented in any way in any fictional setting... are we that small

Portugal's Europe's Canada.  By which I mean the two countries are all like, "Yo!  Hey!  We're here!  Being reasonable and doing things!  Really!  ...Oh come on, world, we're awesome!  We have cool things!  We're not crazy!  Come visit us!" and the world goes "Oh, right, you're... uh... who, again?  Wait..." and Canada/Portugal get together and sob in a bar all "VIMEY RIDGE DAMMNIT"/"I WAS AN EMPIRE DAMMNIT" and then America/Spain pops up and is all "Aw, I remember you, little brother!" and Canada/Portugal is like "...No, you're the younger one, and shut up, I don't want you remembering me" and America/Spain is like ":(  Awww I remember you and love you even though you mock me all the time" and Canada/Portagul is all "...Like you don't mock *me*- oh god, don't start crying, stupid, c'mon" and everyone drinks together and all is well until they're sober again and still no one's figured out who Canada/Portugal is and can't UK hang out with them for a while they never get to do that anymore-

And Australia and New Zealand are still in a corner arguing about which of them gets ignored more often and little Liechtenstein is crying about how only Switzerland remembers her....

...The on topic police are going to hit me, aren't they? ;;

'Moorish Spain', though... up to the 1140's, that meant not only what would become Spain, but also what would become Portagul as well (save for that small part that was in the hands of the Kingdom of Leon).  I'm not sure if Rivainis takes more from Córdoba or from Al-Andalus, but either way, there's parts of both what will be Portagul and what will be Spain in it.  So I guess that sort of counts?

Spain actually sort of got lucky.  Sure, Antiva is definitely based on an Italian City State, but one can find some traces of Spain in there (see: accents, and hey, Spain ruled some Italian City States for a while), and Navarra isn't based on Spain either as far as I know but does seem to have a few Spanish influences as well (see: the name).  Add in Rivain, and one could almost feel well liked.  ^^

I wonder where Navarra does take other influences from... I don't think that's been mentioned.  Hm.

^This post made my day, off-topic or not!

On-topic, though, this comparison to Europe is frankly onem that I make all the time, so I'm not really surprised I see similarities in the image the OP posted. I'm not sure if the similarities would be there or be as striking if I didn't already have the preconceived notion that on *some* level Thedas is roughly equivalent to Europe.

[The Masked Rog]

Mikka-chan wrote...

Btw, Portugal is yet to be represented in any way in any fictional setting... are we that small

Portugal's Europe's Canada.  By which I mean the two countries are all like, "Yo!  Hey!  We're here!  Being reasonable and doing things!  Really!  ...Oh come on, world, we're awesome!  We have cool things!  We're not crazy!  Come visit us!" and the world goes "Oh, right, you're... uh... who, again?  Wait..." and Canada/Portugal get together and sob in a bar all "VIMEY RIDGE DAMMNIT"/"I WAS AN EMPIRE DAMMNIT" and then America/Spain pops up and is all "Aw, I remember you, little brother!" and Canada/Portugal is like "...No, you're the younger one, and shut up, I don't want you remembering me" and America/Spain is like ":(  Awww I remember you and love you even though you mock me all the time" and Canada/Portagul is all "...Like you don't mock *me*- oh god, don't start crying, stupid, c'mon" and everyone drinks together and all is well until they're sober again and still no one's figured out who Canada/Portugal is and can't UK hang out with them for a while they never get to do that anymore-

And Australia and New Zealand are still in a corner arguing about which of them gets ignored more often and little Liechtenstein is crying about how only Switzerland remembers her....

...The on topic police are going to hit me, aren't they? ;;

'Moorish Spain', though... up to the 1140's, that meant not only what would become Spain, but also what would become Portagul as well (save for that small part that was in the hands of the Kingdom of Leon).  I'm not sure if Rivainis takes more from Córdoba or from Al-Andalus, but either way, there's parts of both what will be Portagul and what will be Spain in it.  So I guess that sort of counts?

Spain actually sort of got lucky.  Sure, Antiva is definitely based on an Italian City State, but one can find some traces of Spain in there (see: accents, and hey, Spain ruled some Italian City States for a while), and Navarra isn't based on Spain either as far as I know but does seem to have a few Spanish influences as well (see: the name).  Add in Rivain, and one could almost feel well liked.  ^^

I wonder where Navarra does take other influences from... I don't think that's been mentioned.  Hm.

I really couldn't think of a more innacurate description of Portugal. We aren't even trying to catch anyone's attention right now. Surviving seems hard enough. We did acomplish pretty impressive feats in the past though. I'm sure the americans will also feel how it is to be a former empire. Might not be that far off either.

[Fishy]

Mikka-chan wrote...

Btw, Portugal is yet to be represented in any way in any fictional setting... are we that small

Portugal's Europe's Canada.  By which I mean the two countries are all like, "Yo!  Hey!  We're here!  Being reasonable and doing things!  Really!  ...Oh come on, world, we're awesome!  We have cool things!  We're not crazy!  Come visit us!" and the world goes "Oh, right, you're... uh... who, again?  Wait..." and Canada/Portugal get together and sob in a bar all "VIMEY RIDGE DAMMNIT"/"I WAS AN EMPIRE DAMMNIT" and then America/Spain pops up and is all "Aw, I remember you, little brother!" and Canada/Portugal is like "...No, you're the younger one, and shut up, I don't want you remembering me" and America/Spain is like ":(  Awww I remember you and love you even though you mock me all the time" and Canada/Portagul is all "...Like you don't mock *me*- oh god, don't start crying, stupid, c'mon" and everyone drinks together and all is well until they're sober again and still no one's figured out who Canada/Portugal is and can't UK hang out with them for a while they never get to do that anymore-

And Australia and New Zealand are still in a corner arguing about which of them gets ignored more often and little Liechtenstein is crying about how only Switzerland remembers her....

...The on topic police are going to hit me, aren't they? ;;

'Moorish Spain', though... up to the 1140's, that meant not only what would become Spain, but also what would become Portagul as well (save for that small part that was in the hands of the Kingdom of Leon).  I'm not sure if Rivainis takes more from Córdoba or from Al-Andalus, but either way, there's parts of both what will be Portagul and what will be Spain in it.  So I guess that sort of counts?

Spain actually sort of got lucky.  Sure, Antiva is definitely based on an Italian City State, but one can find some traces of Spain in there (see: accents, and hey, Spain ruled some Italian City States for a while), and Navarra isn't based on Spain either as far as I know but does seem to have a few Spanish influences as well (see: the name).  Add in Rivain, and one could almost feel well liked.  ^^

I wonder where Navarra does take other influences from... I don't think that's been mentioned.  Hm.

That because ppl live in the past.Ppl know more about ancient greece and Jules Cesar than Canada being the second biggest country housing the biggest forest of the world.

Amazonia?Nope

[NvVanity]

The Masked Rog wrote...

Mikka-chan wrote...

Btw, Portugal is yet to be represented in any way in any fictional setting... are we that small

Portugal's Europe's Canada.  By which I mean the two countries are all like, "Yo!  Hey!  We're here!  Being reasonable and doing things!  Really!  ...Oh come on, world, we're awesome!  We have cool things!  We're not crazy!  Come visit us!" and the world goes "Oh, right, you're... uh... who, again?  Wait..." and Canada/Portugal get together and sob in a bar all "VIMEY RIDGE DAMMNIT"/"I WAS AN EMPIRE DAMMNIT" and then America/Spain pops up and is all "Aw, I remember you, little brother!" and Canada/Portugal is like "...No, you're the younger one, and shut up, I don't want you remembering me" and America/Spain is like ":(  Awww I remember you and love you even though you mock me all the time" and Canada/Portagul is all "...Like you don't mock *me*- oh god, don't start crying, stupid, c'mon" and everyone drinks together and all is well until they're sober again and still no one's figured out who Canada/Portugal is and can't UK hang out with them for a while they never get to do that anymore-

And Australia and New Zealand are still in a corner arguing about which of them gets ignored more often and little Liechtenstein is crying about how only Switzerland remembers her....

...The on topic police are going to hit me, aren't they? ;;

'Moorish Spain', though... up to the 1140's, that meant not only what would become Spain, but also what would become Portagul as well (save for that small part that was in the hands of the Kingdom of Leon).  I'm not sure if Rivainis takes more from Córdoba or from Al-Andalus, but either way, there's parts of both what will be Portagul and what will be Spain in it.  So I guess that sort of counts?

Spain actually sort of got lucky.  Sure, Antiva is definitely based on an Italian City State, but one can find some traces of Spain in there (see: accents, and hey, Spain ruled some Italian City States for a while), and Navarra isn't based on Spain either as far as I know but does seem to have a few Spanish influences as well (see: the name).  Add in Rivain, and one could almost feel well liked.  ^^

I wonder where Navarra does take other influences from... I don't think that's been mentioned.  Hm.

I really couldn't think of a more innacurate description of Portugal. We aren't even trying to catch anyone's attention right now. Surviving seems hard enough. We did acomplish pretty impressive feats in the past though. I'm sure the americans will also feel how it is to be a former empire. Might not be that far off either.

We'll still be an empire. OPERATION: GOLDEN OSTRICH has yet to be enacted. Soon the world shall quake with fear and anticipation....

[nightcobra]

we portuguese are pretty much a mercenary/pirate people, we give our services to the highest bidder and then screwing them over for our benefit, all this while being friendly to our "benefactors" XD.

[thegreateski]

The Tevinter Imperium looks like it's going to eat Seheron.

[AlexXIV]

Bleh. Troll.

[nijnij]

Not a troll, I'm European, and though I believe this is just one of those coincidences, I find it hilarious ! So cheers for he find !

[crimzontearz]

being european myself.......uh...yeah it is kind of a big coincidence

[Dodge-Venom]

Damn... UK ran into scandanavia, Italy broke off, spain got kinda squished. Or maybe it looks nothing like Europe. Hang on... does that cancerous mole on my shoulder look like Jesus? OMG. JESUS!

[Rawgrim]

I did notice alot of Fereldans having norwegian\\swedish names as well (In the game), makes abit of sense when Ferelden seems to be located where scandinavia is. Anders (my nephew is named that, plus a bunch of other people I know). Sigrun is a very common name too, as is Sten. Eirik was another one I spotted. He is the male chantry priest in Haven.

[Maria Caliban]

ErichHartmann wrote...

Every fantasy setting represents our history and world in some way.

What history does Alice in Wonderland represent? The Labyrinth?

[Urrinor]

The Masked Rog wrote...

I really couldn't think of a more innacurate description of Portugal. We aren't even trying to catch anyone's attention right now. Surviving seems hard enough. We did acomplish pretty impressive feats in the past though. I'm sure the americans will also feel how it is to be a former empire. Might not be that far off either.

And so we live on the past and complaining on how our country is fracked up nowadays (absolute true), and we sink even lower... yay for us! 

[Thunderfox]

Rawgrim wrote...

I did notice alot of Fereldans having norwegian\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\swedish names as well (In the game), makes abit of sense when Ferelden seems to be located where scandinavia is. Anders (my nephew is named that, plus a bunch of other people I know). Sigrun is a very common name too, as is Sten. Eirik was another one I spotted. He is the male chantry priest in Haven.

Swedes and Norgwegians did have the British isles for a while... Anglo-Saxons etc etc

Modifié par ThunderfoxF, 06 décembre 2010 - 02:00 .

[crimzontearz]

hey now...one of my best friends is portugese......