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[dunniteowl]

The Citadel Community News Update: 07 December, 2010

Is back and up for your perusal.  For those of you new to the CCNU, it's just a sort of Community News compilation that I started almost 3 years ago and was doing pretty regularly until the forums moved here to the BSN.  In this day of distractions, tight focus and being oh so busy, busy, busy, this is a nice way to get news and information on what's going on in the NWN and NWN2 Community.

Are there other places to get the same stuff?  Absolutely, how do you think I find it?  But that's just it, isn't it?  Why should everyone else in the Community have to search through several different sections and various other websites to find out what's going on in the Community?  Why not let the CCNU be your quick and easy way to update you on the latest happenings and topics of interest?

In addition, I post an Opinion Piece *(which, oddly, some like to read) as well as do my best to acquire interviews with module authors, CC creators, the occasional developer *(though that's getting as hard to find as hen's teeth these days) and do my best to provide news bits of related interest that sometimes go outside our circles of just NWN or just NWN2 and may impact us as a Community of like minded gamers.

I hope you find this and all subsequent editions of the Citadel Community News Updates of interest.

best regards,
dunniteowl

[Banshe]

Good to see you back in the saddle.



Also, are you part American Indian? If so, which tribe?

[NWN DM]

Excellent Opinion Piece DNO.  Captures what a lot of us felt at the time, and to some extent still do.

Traffic certainly has fallen off since the move... entirely due to how it was handled.  A shame....

Thanks for keeping the Updates alive.

Modifié par NWN DM, 07 décembre 2010 - 08:24 .

[Quixal]

Ah, it is good to see the CCNUs again. Thanks for putting in the effort dunniteowl.

As to the opinion piece, I suppose I just rolled with the change. I am a consumer here (I doodle around with the toolset and play with the idea of storyboards but I have never produced or come close to producing anything) though and the shift was likely a lot harder on the more productive members of the community. I hope at least most of the wayward spirits that never made the shift over here show up eventually.

Modifié par Quixal, 07 décembre 2010 - 08:42 .

[dunniteowl]

Thanks all. I really needed to get back into it. I hadn't been 'feeling it' since a few months before the move and the move was sort of like a strong blow to the head with a 2x4 for me. I am glad I can still get in there and mix it up and stand up at the end.



@Banshe: I am a true United States American. That means I come from just about everywhere.

I am part:

Irish

Scots

English

French

German

Dutch

and

Choctaw Cherokee

Mescalero Apache

Seminole

Chickamauga Iriquois



And for all that, I am still only 1/8th Native American by blood and all Native American by birth, choice and desire. It's also why I find it so hard to deal with bigots. It's hard to be prejudiced when you're the crazy mixed up mutt I am. And you should see my nieces, nephews and grandchildren (by birth and by marriage) and my only daughter (who I am glad to say, has yet to consider children as a life path...) I got just about the whole world of ethnicities in that mix and I love them all.



Sorry, a tad off topic, but in truth, my life experiences have, I think, helped me to see things from a perspective most don't get the opportunity to see without trying really, really hard. And I think, in the long run, it allows me to act as a moderator of these and other forums with greater skill and diplomacy on the whole.



thanks again and best regards,

dunniteowl

[Dorateen]

*Faints*

[PJ156]

Good to see this back, I thought it was still going and I had missed it.

I even visited the citadel in my search ....

[Banshe]

You are super cool, DNO. Cherokee, Apache, Seminole and Iroquois... Wow!

[dunniteowl]

Wow, I felt like you should have said, OH MY at the end of all that.

dno

[Kaldor Silverwand]

Nicely opined.

Personally the two things that irk me the most about the move are that (1) they were done without any real regard for the existing community, and (2) the involvement of the moderators themselves, with only a couple of laudable exceptions, has dropped off completely. What is the point of having moderators who never post anything at all? Who are they to be moderating when they don't even take the time to participate?

Fortunately the links to the old forums continue to work, which is the only good thing. If that breaks then we will truly have lost a great resource for modding and support and after that I think it is unlikely there will be any new development in the community.

I'll continue holding on and helping out, but it can be painful at times to see the number of days between posts when it used to be minutes.

On the bright side, there are a few individuals from the old boards that I do not miss at all.

Regards

Modifié par Kaldor Silverwand, 07 décembre 2010 - 11:10 .

[E.C.Patterson]

Well, I hope you stay mad for a long while still. Thanks for keeping this up. It makes the community feel more alive.

I'm glad you finally decided to team up with the NWN podcast guys. Good move.

[dunniteowl]

I think the Podcast teaming is a good thing all the way around. We live in a multimedia world, and while, by and large the majority of folks still get a lot of their main information by reading, the interest levels are piqued and perked when something can be heard as well to let you know something's up.



And yes, I'm mad and will stay mad. And in the words of Roger Waters from a pretty famous song, "Of course I'm mad, I've always been mad." I think I will stick with it and continue just to prove I can survive. I hope you all do as well.



Thanks again, one and all,

dno

[Magnus Pym]

It's been a while since I came here. Hi Dynamite.

...And not just that whole, "Why so serious," Joker insanity, but the real, honest living evil of lying, cheating, stealing and betrayal...

Wasn't the Joker one of the most well done villain Hollywood could have put on the Giant Screen? He is more than intelligent, does everything he wants to - when he wants to, is the model on which Cyric himself might've based himself... e.t.c.



I had to disagree on that, haha!

Modules In Production:

Reversal of Fortunes by _Knightmare_

Still can't wait to see that.



I agree with the opinion piece to some extent. At least I know I disliked the move. But what has been done is done and let's move on to other things more important and funnier.



Thanks for the read, it's like your speaking in those.

[foil-]

Your doing the podcast? Good to here.

Also nice to see the CCNU back. Maybe I can catch up...and then fall behind all over again.

edit:  holy crums...Icewind Dale remake is back on the tracks...and with slowdivefan back at the helm!?!?!!!

....wow....

Modifié par foil-, 08 décembre 2010 - 02:40 .

[Arkalezth]

Finally! I was going to PM you to ask about the Citadel news. Glad to see them back.

I'll read them tomorrow, it's late here now and I'm going straight to bed.

Modifié par Arkalezth, 08 décembre 2010 - 08:55 .

[The Fred]

Good to see the News back... hopefully there will *be* some more news soon, too. The board moving did indeed hurt the community I think, especially given the needlessly short notice.

[Banshe]

dunniteowl wrote...

Wow, I felt like you should have said, OH MY at the end of all that.
dno

Nah. I think it's pretty cool.

As for more news, you can announce the winners of the GOG contest if you can pull off another issue for next week.

[Dorateen]

dunniteowl,

Are you a fan of Billy Joel? This is the post I made on the last day of the old forums, July 19, which you might appreciate.



They turned our power down
And drove us underground

But we went right on with the show

Harumph!

[dunniteowl]

We didn't start the fire...

Thanks again everyone.



One of the most important things I think I can do is sort of act as a 'voice' for the Community. Not the one that everyone is supposed to follow, heaven's no. The one that I do hope, though, that everyone can hear. I don't care if it upsets you, enlightens, entertains or informs you (well, I do hope it does those things from time to time) as long as you can hear it and it makes you question.

I guess I see myself as something of a Town Crier. And in that capacity, it's not my job to convince you of the rightness of my point of view (especially in the Opinion Pieces) as much as it is to put things out in front of you that make you hesitate in your busy walk to work (as it were) and take a second to listen and get the pulse of your Community.

And I am speaking to you; all of you. I hope the conversational 'tone' I have developed from many years of correspondence with friends and family carries over directly to my Opinion Pieces and my posting in general here and elsewhere. I believe it has more 'immediacy' and is generally much more readable than some dry and jouranlistic "Who, What, Where, When" only stuff.



Just to clarify. Any part I take on the Podcast will most likely be pre-recorded and will be a sort of "Highlights" version of the Community News Updates. So I'd be announcing that I've got a great interview coming up, or that there's an even bigger than usual New Releases section coming out, or if I have some sort of Special News Scoop. It probably won't be longer than a minute or two, which is about all I think most people can stand when I am nervous and excited and speaking.



Yes, I am a Billy Joel fan. And while I am on a Rantscapade, I hate it when I hear the song You're the Piano Man and they cut out over half of it, because it doesn't follow that stupid 2minutes and 30 seconds rule for the Short Attention Span Theater crowd. The best part of the song is just ripped out of there.

Who's talking to Davey, who's still in the Navy, and probably will be for life... They put bread in my jar and say, "Man, what are you doing here?" Excellent wordsmith, that man. Highly, highly underrated talent, Billy Joel.



Okay, that's pretty much it, other than, "Until next time.:



Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!

Bullwinkle, you know that trick never works.



dunniteowl

[foil-]

http://dl.dropbox.co.../bullwinkle.jpg

Modifié par foil-, 09 décembre 2010 - 01:23 .

[dunniteowl]

Oh, and I meant to say this earlier. I never said I didn't LIKE the Joker character played by Heath Ledger, or that it wasn't a valid playing character type. My implication was that's pretty much the only path you're allowed in any Developer Made Game. You have to be full on crazy, amoral, sociopathic and there's nothing between that and Lawful or Chaotic Good. Such a shame.

Well, Path of Evil changes all that and you get to be an everyday evil person, with feelings, friends, and even something of a conscience. You just don't let it get in the way of looking out for that most important of persons, Good Old Number One. I like that. I think when you play it, you will, too.

As a character, the Jokey (especially the last iteration) makes a fantastic nemesis and foil for the coming along or already there hero of the day. In PnP terms (and in the comics I read as I grew up as well) the Joker either managed to get away before the law came down, or managed to escape prison because he still had plenty of minions on the outside willing to do his bidding.

That's the basis for a great Arch-Nemesis character and one I wouldn't mind seeing from time to time in modules where, though the day is saved, the bad guy gets away -- or the start of the next module is the bad guy managing to escape 'justice' and starting off all over again.



best regards,

dunniteowl

[dunniteowl]

Oh, and I meant to say this earlier. I never said I didn't LIKE the Joker character played by Heath Ledger, or that it wasn't a valid playing character type. My implication was that's pretty much the only path you're allowed in any Developer Made Game. You have to be full on crazy, amoral, sociopathic and there's nothing between that and Lawful or Chaotic Good. Such a shame.

Well, Path of Evil changes all that and you get to be an everyday evil person, with feelings, friends, and even something of a conscience. You just don't let it get in the way of looking out for that most important of persons, Good Old Number One. I like that. I think when you play it, you will, too.

As a character, the Joker (especially the last iteration) makes a fantastic nemesis and foil for the coming along or already there hero of the day. In PnP terms (and in the comics I read as I grew up as well) the Joker either managed to get away before the law came down, or managed to escape prison because he still had plenty of minions on the outside willing to do his bidding.

That's the basis for a great Arch-Nemesis character and one I wouldn't mind seeing from time to time in modules where, though the day is saved, the bad guy gets away -- or the start of the next module is the bad guy managing to escape 'justice' and starting off all over again.

best regards,
dunniteowl
(Guess I better get a bigger hat.)

Modifié par dunniteowl, 09 décembre 2010 - 03:40 .

[nicethugbert]

NEAT!

[Ugly_Duck]

Cool, it's back then. I haven't read one in about 9 or 10 months due to focusing on other games. It will be nice to get an update on a lot of things all in one place, especially the new community content.