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Liara T'Soni Character Discussion Thread *possible ME3 spoilers*


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I think the lab coat is okay as long as she doesn't wear it to fight rachni on Noveria...then she'd be vulnerable.

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I love the LotSB armor Liara wears.  She looks sophisticated and ready for action all at the same time.  And as for the dress...  Again sophisticated but also sexy, mature and complimentary of her figure.  I hope Liara's in game outfits don't resemble anything close to what Jack and Miranda wear in ME3.  One of the reasons I love Liara so much is because I actually respect her.  I don't want anyone to see her as an object.  Don't get me wrong, Miranda and Jack both deserve a certain level of respect, but their outfits leave nothing to be discovered.  Sometimes it's nice to have to use your imagination.  I guess i'm just old school.

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jlb524 wrote...

I think the lab coat is okay as long as she doesn't wear it to fight rachni on Noveria...then she'd be vulnerable.


Definitately. I hate that about the comic. She should be in armor.

But anyways, I still think she should have a more unique costume. Maybe something like the labcoat, but it's a redesign.

Actually, it would be nice to see an asari version of a labcoat, unless it's overly sexy. I'd like to see more unique designs from other races.

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Actually, it would be nice to see an asari version of a labcoat, unless it's overly sexy. I'd like to see more unique designs from other races.


I wouldn't hold my breath...it seems like there's one galactic style that all speices wear...including lab coats.

Even Liara's LotSB dress is similar in style to those worn by others around the galaxy.

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Hey wow, you guys finally managed to get the other thread locked. Congrats I guess? ......


Indeed, and it would be appreciated if you were to continue to avoid posting in this thread. Thanks.

Anyway, I never got the impression that Liara's ME1 labcoat was intended to make her seem young or vulnerable. On the contrary, I think it's testament to her intelligence and academic ability, and I feel that her attire reflects this quite well.

Dr. Chakwas' clothing is virtually identical, and I've never heard anyone assert that she is young or vulnerable.

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I too fail to see the connection between a labcoat and being young and/or vulnerable. Liara certainly didn't strike me as vulnerable, even though you do have to rescue her and she cowers while Shepard fights a krogan battlemaster. But considering the circumstances she was in, thats... not so strange.

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Guys, she seems vulnerable. I know you want to talk her as strong and intelligent 24/7, but she does seem vulnerable in ME1. If she wasn't, ME2 and LOTSB wouldn't have to make a point about her being strong and independent. Again, I said she seems vulnerable, because she's young, and in a tight, thin jumpsuit. Dr. Chakwas' doesn't get the same response, because she has a older face and long grey hair to counter that.

And there's a difference between seems vulnerable, and is vulnerable. And vulnerable she isn't.

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TMA LIVE wrote...

Guys, she seems vulnerable. I know you want to talk her as strong and intelligent 24/7, but she does seem vulnerable in ME1. If she wasn't, ME2 and LOTSB wouldn't have to make a point about her being strong and independent. Again, I said she seems vulnerable, because she's young, and in a tight, thin jumpsuit. Dr. Chakwas' doesn't get the same response, because she has a older face and long grey hair to counter that.



There are definately times when Liara is vulnerable in ME1 and ME2.  But i don't base this (even loosely) off of what she's wearing, I just can't.  There's nothing about anything she wears that says "vulnerable" to me.   What about a "tight, thin jumpsuit" as you say, says vulnerable to you?  I'm just having a hard time understanding where you're coming from on this. 

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That's subjective, though.

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Like I said, 'vulnerable' is wearing a lab coat to fight rachni....stick Kaidan in one and send him off to fight them would make him vulnerable too.



Liara wears her labcoat to study. I'm not even sure how this makes her 'seem' vulnerable.

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MillaShepard wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Guys, she seems vulnerable. I know you want to talk her as strong and intelligent 24/7, but she does seem vulnerable in ME1. If she wasn't, ME2 and LOTSB wouldn't have to make a point about her being strong and independent. Again, I said she seems vulnerable, because she's young, and in a tight, thin jumpsuit. Dr. Chakwas' doesn't get the same response, because she has a older face and long grey hair to counter that.



There are definately times when Liara is vulnerable in ME1 and ME2.  But i don't base this (even loosely) off of what she's wearing, I just can't.  There's nothing about anything she wears that says "vulnerable" to me.   What about a "tight, thin jumpsuit" as you say, says vulnerable to you?  I'm just having a hard time understanding where you're coming from on this. 


There's more to it, but it's part of it. 

How about this. From a glance, what would seem vulnerable to you? What would make you think that from just a glance?

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Well, Liara was physically vulnerable when she was hanging in that Prothean bubble.



Perhaps she was a bit emotionally vulnerable after Benezia's death, but that's debatable.



I just don't see, 'hanging out in a labcoat doing science' as vulnerable in anyway.

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jlb524 wrote...

Well, Liara was physically vulnerable when she was hanging in that Prothean bubble.

Perhaps she was a bit emotionally vulnerable after Benezia's death, but that's debatable.

I just don't see, 'hanging out in a labcoat doing science' as vulnerable in anyway.


Well, how about because she looks cute in it?

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jlb524 wrote...

Like I said, 'vulnerable' is wearing a lab coat to fight rachni....stick Kaidan in one and send him off to fight them would make him vulnerable too.

Liara wears her labcoat to study. I'm not even sure how this makes her 'seem' vulnerable.


Yes if Liara were to wear her labcoat for a fight she would be vulnerable physically. 

@TMA  If i'm not mistaken, you're talking about her seeming vulnerable emotionally.  So to answer your question, what would seem vulnerable to me at a distance...

Physically - If she were in a battle wearing her labcoat.

Emotionally - If she were crying, drunk, or undergoing any kind of mental stress.

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MillaShepard wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Like I said, 'vulnerable' is wearing a lab coat to fight rachni....stick Kaidan in one and send him off to fight them would make him vulnerable too.

Liara wears her labcoat to study. I'm not even sure how this makes her 'seem' vulnerable.


Yes if Liara were to wear her labcoat for a fight she would be vulnerable physically. 

@TMA  If i'm not mistaken, you're talking about her seeming vulnerable emotionally.  So to answer your question, what would seem vulnerable to me at a distance...

Physically - If she were in a battle wearing her labcoat.

Emotionally - If she were crying, drunk, or undergoing any kind of mental stress.


Well, she is vulnerable emotionally, though she prefers to handle it on her own. Physically, it shows off her figure pretty well, as well as making her look cute. Her voice also seems sad, and concern, and young. Her body language seems abit cautious, and a shy. Etc. The suit is just one thing.

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She's the only one in your crew who's not in armor or military attire on the ship. She's also isolated and seated, unlike the rest of your crew.

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TMA LIVE wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Well, Liara was physically vulnerable when she was hanging in that Prothean bubble.

Perhaps she was a bit emotionally vulnerable after Benezia's death, but that's debatable.

I just don't see, 'hanging out in a labcoat doing science' as vulnerable in anyway.


Well, how about because she looks cute in it?


No.  Now it seems you are making her out to be a cutesy little child.

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Anyways, I'd still like something unique instead, since other people are wearing it as well. Something that's special to her, and her alone.

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jlb524 wrote...

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Actually, it would be nice to see an asari version of a labcoat, unless it's overly sexy. I'd like to see more unique designs from other races.


I wouldn't hold my breath...it seems like there's one galactic style that all speices wear...including lab coats.

Even Liara's LotSB dress is similar in style to those worn by others around the galaxy.


I'd settle for seeing the female counterparts of the other races...or, actually, children, it seems they aren't present in most games I play...unless they are evil or something.  Even Half-Life took them out.  You can't shoot npcs in ME so I'm not sure why they wouldn't include them in any way.  Maybe too much effort or something.

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jlb524 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Well, Liara was physically vulnerable when she was hanging in that Prothean bubble.

Perhaps she was a bit emotionally vulnerable after Benezia's death, but that's debatable.

I just don't see, 'hanging out in a labcoat doing science' as vulnerable in anyway.


Well, how about because she looks cute in it?


No.  Now it seems you are making her out to be a cutesy little child.


Not a child. But you don't think she looks young, even though her face is based off a 22 year old? (or 21, if I'm doing the math wrong).

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Not a child. But you don't think she looks young, even though her face is based off a 22 year old?


No, not really.  She looks like a young adult woman to me. 

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jlb524 wrote...

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Not a child. But you don't think she looks young, even though her face is based off a 22 year old?


No, not really.  She looks like a young adult woman to me. 


You still said young.:)

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www.youtube.com/watch

Speaking of vulnerable... That's pretty much how i feel after watching this.
0:59 to about 1:06.

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http://pseudocogniti...like-liara.html

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TMA LIVE wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

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Not a child. But you don't think she looks young, even though her face is based off a 22 year old?


No, not really.  She looks like a young adult woman to me. 


You still said young.:)


And?  young adult =/= vulnerable