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Liara T'Soni Character Discussion Thread *possible ME3 spoilers*


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Really? huh never knew that about that scene with liara, Kinda random if you ask me though, why change a scene just cause of gender? :\\

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Tancho wrote...

I'm kind of hoping we see fresh situations/dialogue between Shepard and Liara. Honestly, despite the magnitude of the situation, I hope Liara has finally been able to forgive herself. Shepard has tenderly reaffirmed her (well, if you're a Paragon), so I kind of hope she finds strength in that. Of course, that was a crucial/major decision on her part, so I understand how far reaching it can be.


Yeah, I agree.  I don't want the entirety of Shepard and Liara's interaction in ME3 to be about the Reapers, though I know that may comprise most of it given Liara's potential importance to the main plot.  It was touched upon earlier that the issue with Liara handing Shepard's body to Cerberus could sneak up again if Shepard has been implanted with Reaper tech.  Liara might feel guilty and Shepard would have the option of consoling her or getting angry (potentially ending the romantic relationship). 

Tancho wrote...
I just hope we see them live more in the present, looking forward, than regretting the past...

Not that I wouldn't be for some tender forgiveness moments between Shep/Liara. :wub:


I definitely would like to see some 'live in the present' moments too :D

But if they do want to add some 'angst' I prefer they go this route over making Liara turn evil or become indoctrinated or that stuff.

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I wasn't trying to start anything, merely pointing out that it's the only difference that I know about.

*snap* Undone! *snap*

To change subjects, I'm unfamiliar with games that use DLC.  Is there any chance that ME3 will assume that LotSB didn't happen?  Or is it safe to assume that it'll be considered canon?

Modifié par TheMarshal, 21 janvier 2011 - 03:27 .


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TheMarshal wrote...

To change subjects, I'm unfamiliar with games that use DLC.  Is there any chance that ME3 will assume that LotSB didn't happen?  Or is it safe to assume that it'll be considered canon?


I'm sure the events of LotSB will be canon even if someone didn't play it.  This is why there are no major choices that can be made regarding the plot (Liara is always the Shadow Broker, the old Shadow Broker always dies, Feron always survives).

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Speaking of lotsb i really want to play it, but i heard you get new dialogue if you wait to play it after you beaten me2. Is this true?

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Ericzio wrote...

Speaking of lotsb i really want to play it, but i heard you get new dialogue if you wait to play it after you beaten me2. Is this true?


Just do what I (am about to) do.  Make a save right before you go after the Reaper IFF, then do LotSB.  Afterwards you can reload your old save and finish the game, then do LotSB again.  (I mean why not?  It's the best DLC by far!)

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Ericzio wrote...

Speaking of lotsb i really want to play it, but i heard you get new dialogue if you wait to play it after you beaten me2. Is this true?


it's different.
most people prefer to play it after the SM.  i suggest you do the same for the first time and then play it before. then decide what's best for you.

there was some discussion regarding the differences a while back, but that's spoilerific stuff

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Yeah i know i've replayed it so many times, the damn thing is 1.6 gb hell yeah it's the best dlc out there! and im not that far in the game i have to get everyone loyal ( for the hundreth time xD) because i never let anyone die in the suicide mission, only tali but that was my first playthrough i'm not joking and she was loyal too wtf

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*go to Shadow Broker Lair*
"Thanks for coming by. =| "

*go back later*
"Thanks for coming by. =| "

*go back later*
"Thanks for coming by. =| "

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MFW I have to wait 11 months before I can (possibly) strike up new conversation with her...

:(

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There's some differences, but it's mostly because of bugs. I don't want to go into the details, since it might start a vs war, which I'd rather avoid. 


Without opening the can of worms, I'd think there'd be a simple way to fix that (find the audio file of her silently crying and overwrite it with the one of her audibly crying)?

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Dusty Boy T wrote...

*go to Shadow Broker Lair*
"Thanks for coming by. =| "

*go back later*
"Thanks for coming by. =| "

*go back later*
"Thanks for coming by. =| "

*snip*

MFW I have to wait 11 months before I can (possibly) strike up new conversation with her...

:(


Yup...  I was like a lovesick puppy when I first played it.  Stopping by after EVERY mission just to say 'hi'...

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drwells123 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

There's some differences, but it's mostly because of bugs. I don't want to go into the details, since it might start a vs war, which I'd rather avoid. 


Without opening the can of worms, I'd think there'd be a simple way to fix that (find the audio file of her silently crying and overwrite it with the one of her audibly crying)?


Apparently not....

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TheMarshal wrote...
Hate to see you go, Liara...
But I love to watch you leave!  :wub:


Heh nice expression on Shepard there.

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Ericzio wrote...

It's okay as long as we all like liara here, than I don't care how you make your romance :D
I was just pondering about if I was the only dude that actually uses a dude shep.
Never have used a femshep, is there anything different in dialogue?


Same dialogue, but Hale's voice acting will make you think you've never heard it before.

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They both mshep and fshep sound monotone, very boring people, i just burned myself xD

At least i try to raise my voice when expressing something or when i'm happy.

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Given the fact that they record these lines in 4-hour stretches alone in a sound booth with noone to play off of, I allow a little monotone in their voices. If anyone ever gets as bad as Jerry Seinfeld in Bee Movie that's when I give up on them.

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Ericzio wrote...

They both mshep and fshep sound monotone, very boring people, i just burned myself xD
At least i try to raise my voice when expressing something or when i'm happy.


I mean, maleshep, to me, is pretty monotone. FemShep, however, has always seemed far more emotional and 'in the moment'. I've rarely, if ever, heard her sound 'boring'. I'm not 'super loyal' or anything, I just know a good thing when I hear it. 

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I've heard her a few times, it just sounds like a female version of msheps voice to me maybe I am not listening carefully, anyways lets just change the subject.

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Whew, we're getting wildly off topic. So, here's a new topic idea:



Given the importance of the SB and the recent events of ME: Evolution, how major of a role do you think Liara will play in ME3? Will we see her often? I mean, the Illusive Man wasn't a team member, but we still heard from him on a regular basis. Thoughts?

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Ericzio wrote...

I've heard her a few times, it just sounds like a female version of msheps voice to me maybe I am not listening carefully, anyways lets just change the subject.


You can check out my vid here.  She's pretty emotive, IMO.

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Tancho wrote...

Given the importance of the SB and the recent events of ME: Evolution, how major of a role do you think Liara will play in ME3? Will we see her often? I mean, the Illusive Man wasn't a team member, but we still heard from him on a regular basis. Thoughts?


Most believe she will take over as the 'quest giver' from TIM in ME3.  Also, it's believed you will be able to have conversations with her just as any squad mate, even if she's not on the Normandy and isn't a squad mate.

Most also believe Liara will eventually join up with Shepard as a squad mate, though possibly a bit later in ME3.

Some think Liara will rescue Shepard from imprisonment at the beginning of ME3 and will be a squad mate from there.

I personally think we will see Liara often, even if she isn't in the squad.  She has plot armor.  She's a popular character.  They completely redesigned her character model for LotSB so I'm sure they will want to get some more use out of it in ME3.

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That would be an awful idea of bioware if we didn't see her often. shouldn't that be a reward for staying loyal to her, I think it should. She should be the 2nd most important character in my book for me3 imo.

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Well, I'm sure we all know how big of a role that we hope she'll play. If she's the main quest-giver, I'm hoping for at least as much interaction as TIM in ME2 (preferably more, since she's supposed to be someone we at least like). And they had better throw in more than a little interaction for those of us who remained faithful to her throughout ME2...

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jlb524 wrote...

Ericzio wrote...

I've heard her a few times, it just sounds like a female version of msheps voice to me maybe I am not listening carefully, anyways lets just change the subject.


You can check out my vid here.  She's pretty emotive, IMO.


Wow...  that certainly is a dress!

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TheMarshal wrote...

Well, I'm sure we all know how big of a role that we hope she'll play. If she's the main quest-giver, I'm hoping for at least as much interaction as TIM in ME2 (preferably more, since she's supposed to be someone we at least like). And they had better throw in more than a little interaction for those of us who remained faithful to her throughout ME2...

I actually don't think she will be the quest-giver for the entire game; I think that, at some point, say halfway through, things will change and Liara will have to change things as well. She could, for example, join the team, or simply become part of the Normandy as crew or something.

Also, part of me hunches that Liara's plot armor will not continue through ME3 as it did ME1 and ME2. Of course not a mandatory death, but something might happen to Liara, leaving her ultimate fate in Shepard's hands. I have no idea why but I do see this happening.