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Liara T'Soni Character Discussion Thread *possible ME3 spoilers*


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i still pick i'm worried even if everyone survives, i just like that dialogue better i guess

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Ericzio wrote...

i still pick i'm worried even if everyone survives, i just like that dialogue better i guess


I prefer the frustated option because having everyone survive the suicide mission should warrent a small boost of confidence from Shepard.

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shouldn't you pick "i'm hopeful" then?

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Oof...  I don't know if I have the strength...


Don't do it. That vid should have more warnings around it than the Omega 4 relay.


It's pretty depressing to watch but I must say that the voice acting and the animation is very well done there.  If not, it wouldn't be as depressing as it is.

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Ericzio wrote...

shouldn't you pick "i'm hopeful" then?


No. Because then Shepard does the exact opposite of what Liara ask.

If everyone survived the mission. Shepard first thoughts aren't of being worried about the upcoming battle, since he just kicked the Reaper's ass once again. Instead, the fact that his friends have betrayed him and the council doesn't believe him is what bothers him the most at the moment.

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The direction of that scene is also impressive. Take a look at how Shepard and Liara will wistfully stare at each other, but not realise that they have both done so. When one glances at the other, she is not making eye contact.



It's incredibly sad and depressing, but very well-done.

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Lizardviking wrote...

Ericzio wrote...

i still pick i'm worried even if everyone survives, i just like that dialogue better i guess


I prefer the frustated option because having everyone survive the suicide mission should warrent a small boost of confidence from Shepard.


I liked "I'm frustrated" when I did LotSB way early.  I ran it right after picking up Tali, who pointed out how crazy it was that Shepard was working with Cerberus.  Coupled with running into Ash on Horizon and the crappy reception at the Citadel, and it seemed fitting.

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Ah okay i see how that would be the most reasonable answer but my shep stays cool at all times, no need to get frustrated or furious and yell at liara, This is how i see it, dialogue that is up is for paragon, middle is kinda well the middle, and lower dialogue is renegade.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

The direction of that scene is also impressive. Take a look at how Shepard and Liara will wistfully stare at each other, but not realise that they have both done so. When one glances at the other, she is not making eye contact.

It's incredibly sad and depressing, but very well-done.


Damnit...  stop making me want to watch it!  I can't turn down good directing!!  :(

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TheMarshal wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Ericzio wrote...

i still pick i'm worried even if everyone survives, i just like that dialogue better i guess


I prefer the frustated option because having everyone survive the suicide mission should warrent a small boost of confidence from Shepard.


I liked "I'm frustrated" when I did LotSB way early.  I ran it right after picking up Tali, who pointed out how crazy it was that Shepard was working with Cerberus.  Coupled with running into Ash on Horizon and the crappy reception at the Citadel, and it seemed fitting.


Meh. Doing LOTSB early destroys the whole "rocky second chapter"

Ericzio wrote...

Ah okay i see how that would be the most
reasonable answer but my shep stays cool at all times, no need to get
frustrated or furious and yell at liara, This is how i see it, dialogue
that is up is for paragon, middle is kinda well the middle, and lower
dialogue is renegade.


Shepard yells. But it's definently not aimed at Liara, nor does Liara take any offence when Shepard expres his emotions. And I fail to see how feeling that everyone screwed you over is renegade.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 22 janvier 2011 - 12:42 .


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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

The direction of that scene is also impressive. Take a look at how Shepard and Liara will wistfully stare at each other, but not realise that they have both done so. When one glances at the other, she is not making eye contact.


Yes...I guess the scene would work depending on how you RP your Shepard.  You can tell they still both care very much for the other but...Shepard's acting insensitive.

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I'm just saying that renegade hold a grudge more than a paragon

take for instance the choices when talking to the council you can tell them to kiss your ass or you can forget about it and become a spectre again. everything that on the bottom of the dialogue choices give me renegade so that's what i'm going for.

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Lizardviking wrote...

Meh. Doing LOTSB early destroys the whole "rocky second chapter"


Oh I agree.  I feel that the best time to run it is right before going for the Reaper IFF, and waiting to do the cabin scene until after the SM.  The 'date' is certainly something worth coming back for!

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TheMarshal wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Meh. Doing LOTSB early destroys the whole "rocky second chapter"


Oh I agree.  I feel that the best time to run it is right before going for the Reaper IFF, and waiting to do the cabin scene until after the SM.  The 'date' is certainly something worth coming back for!


Even that early destroys the "rocky second chapter". Since doing LOTSB secures the romance, adn therefor removes any real punch in the picture scene.

Ericzio wrote...

I'm just saying that renegade hold a grudge more than a paragon
take
for instance the choices when talking to the council you can tell them
to kiss your ass or you can forget about it and become a spectre again.
everything that on the bottom of the dialogue choices give me renegade
so that's what i'm going for.


Maybe. But I still feel what Shepard feels deep down isn't tied to what morality he has.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 22 janvier 2011 - 12:55 .


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I'm trying to beat me2 as fast as i can so i can see what happens in the dlc if you beaten the game before hand. almost done with loyal missions just need two more tali and grunt. those ones are really easy so it should be no prob

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TheMarshal wrote...

Damnit...  stop making me want to watch it!  I can't turn down good directing!!  :(


Don't listen to them, Anakin! :lol:

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Could someone remind me how to get Liara's "109 in a few months" line? She says it at some point in LotSB (proof e.g. in the previous thread) but I must have picked the wrong options.

Edit: I usually get Jacob and Miranda killed

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:01 .


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AlexMBrennan wrote...

Could someone remind me how to get Liara's "109 in a few months" line? She says it at some point in LotSB (proof e.g. in the previous threat) but I must have picked the wrong options.


Have everyone survive the suicide mission. Pick the upper option/the option highest on the wheel.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 22 janvier 2011 - 01:37 .


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Ugh, one of my Shepard's has a save right before the cabin scene.



A few weeks ago, I decided to try the renegade options.



Worst. Decision. Ever.



I had to replay it Paragon again just to ease my guilty conscience.

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When it comes to Liara I simply can't do "all the options" on different playthroughs. As bad as it sounds, I can't tell myself it's just a video game when it comes to those scenes, it really feels like I'm cheapening the whole thing.



On a sad note, the fanfic "Blue Light" has been taken down. Not impressed, it may have gotten a little insane at the end, but it had one of the most original ideas I've seen.

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@Tancho



Now I'm curious; what does Shepard say? I've been thinking about trying it myself, but now I'm thinking it's not a good idea.

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Has anyone else's interest been piqued about Final Fantasy 13 solely because of Ali Hillis? Mine has, I recently saw the trailer for the sequel to FFXIII.

I also saw a "Power to the players" plug at Gamestop featuring Hillis and Jennifer Hale. Go figure.

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Ah, I'm preparing myself for Horizon/LOTSB....



I favor the renegade options when talking, and then the paragon option that gets the little blue children line :)



I just loooove how Liara says "if we're going to do this, I need to know you're always coming back"



the way she says it.... just..... wow.... *melts*





I'll come back to you, I promise! (cookie if you get the game reference)

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IndigoWolfe wrote...

Has anyone else's interest been piqued about Final Fantasy 13 solely because of Ali Hillis? Mine has, I recently saw the trailer for the sequel to FFXIII.

I also saw a "Power to the players" plug at Gamestop featuring Hillis and Jennifer Hale. Go figure.


They seem to be showing up in the same places a lot lately. Hopefully that means they'll be doing plenty more work together, such as a spiritual sequel to ME (because I don't know what else you can do after saving the universe)...

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She's very pessimistic and basically treats the relationship with the 'meh, we're gonna die soon, so who cares' attitude.



Basically, when Liara asks her what she wants, or rather, what will happen to them after the Reapers are defeated, Shepard tells her that the odds are against them and they'll probably die. Liara, obviously hurt by this, responds, asking what the point is in asking her for drinks if it doesn't mean anything.



You can choose to save the situation by saying it's not tomorrow yet, or you can just say you've been asking yourself the same question.



UGH. Some people feel that response is far more honest, but for real, yo - I plan on surviving and having the lil blue children. It's best to have hope in those situations - not to throw yourself in with the attitude of, 'Meh, who cares if I die....'