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[RolandX9]

TheMarshal wrote...

For those of you who have done multiple playthroughs with different Shepards, did you approach Liara in different ways each time? Did you romance her every time? I'm curious, because I've only got one Shepard at this point, and I'm very attached to her. The idea of rolling up a new Shepard and having her romance Liara feels... odd.

I'm a huge Liara fan, but after playing 2 I decided I a) wanted the paramour Achievement and  wanted a playthrough where I saved Jack (murdering Kahoku, torturing Toombs, lying about Liara, creating the Pragia project...my hatred for TIM knows no bounds). So I rolled up a maleShep and a femShep who didn't romance anyone in 1. I can't break Liara's heart like that. (Yes, I put 60 hours of my life into playthroughs so I didn't have to cheat on a fictional character. Yes, I'm pathetic.) I was surprisingly touched at how the friendship angle played out with my Thane-romancing femShep. I haven't gotten to LotSB with my Liara-free maleShep, but I'm looking forward to it (I'm planning a Talimancer run with the Adept verion and romancing Jack with the Vanguard version).

My canon-Shep is still my Liara-romancing Sentinel, though. The new characters are cool and all, but Liara FTW.

Modifié par RolandX9, 26 janvier 2011 - 08:11 .

[jlb524]

TheMarshal wrote...

For those of you who have done multiple playthroughs with different Shepards, did you approach Liara in different ways each time? Did you romance her every time? I'm curious, because I've only got one Shepard at this point, and I'm very attached to her. The idea of rolling up a new Shepard and having her romance Liara feels... odd.

I have a troubled history with this. 

Back in the day (2 years ago) I played ME1 on XBox and created about 12 different Shepards and romanced Liara each time.  I guess none of them really 'stuck' as 'the Shepard'.  As for romance approach....I usually picked the same dialog with Liara using each Shepard, however, the romance was a bit different in my head-canon depending on how I RP'd her and her in game attributes (Paragon/Renegade/Spacer/Earthbornt/etc.).

Early last year, I picked up the PC version of ME1 (just before ME2 came out) and made the Shepard that is now my canon.  She's kind of an amalgam of my favorite traits from these other XBox Shepards.  She's definitely 'stuck', so to speak.  I do desperately desire to create another Shepard that is different from her and is more Renegade while also choosing different romance options in ME1/ME2 (similar to the things Jamie was discussing earlier).

I have made some other Shepards recently but none have stuck so far and I keep going back to my main.  I think it's potentially a good thing to create another Shepard besides your main in order to explore different avenues in the romance, giving you a better insight into Liara's character.  But I also understand being dead set on only using one, as I'm seeming to have trouble moving away from my one even though I want to.

[TheMarshal]

Now that my wife's back in grad school, I'm planning on doing an Insanity playthrough on Alice, then trying out a few other classes. One will probably be more "Renegade-y", and will still romance Liara. The other one I'm not sure about, but I may just go the friend route with Liara (if I can manage to restrain myself... >.>)

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

TheMarshal wrote...

For those of you who have done multiple playthroughs with different Shepards, did you approach Liara in different ways each time? Did you romance her every time? I'm curious, because I've only got one Shepard at this point, and I'm very attached to her. The idea of rolling up a new Shepard and having her romance Liara feels... odd.

I got 4 Shepard (well 6. But two of them are "joke/experimental" Shepard's).

I got my canon Shepard. A male spacer/warhero soldier. How he is roleplayed is a mixture of "What would I do?" and what I think gives the best story and makes the most sense. As a result. The only time i'm harsh against Liara is during the Illium cameo.

I also got a earthborn/sole-survivor MaleShep. Paragon-turned-renegade. cares about Liara, but didn't romance her for various reasons.

Then I got my renegade Femshep. colonist/ruthless pro-human. Loaths Liara, always act with indiffrence or annoyance when talking to her. She ignored her during ME1, laughed at her during the Illium cameo, then in LOTSB she just flat-out said no when Liara asked if she could get a tour of the ship.

Then I got my earthborn/warhero Femshep who romanced Liara. Full-blown paragon (which is why I rarely play with this Shepard). I can't claim that I roleplay in any way since I always pick the paragon option.

TheMarshal wrote...

Alright, I put it up as a blog post, since it's nowhere near ready for "primetime" yet.

Reunion

Impressive. You nailed the part when you "compare" Shepard's death with when she pulls off her armor.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 26 janvier 2011 - 08:33 .

[jlb524]

TheMarshal wrote...

Now that my wife's back in grad school, I'm planning on doing an Insanity playthrough on Alice, then trying out a few other classes. One will probably be more "Renegade-y", and will still romance Liara. The other one I'm not sure about, but I may just go the friend route with Liara (if I can manage to restrain myself... >.>)

Good luck with that. 

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Oh, and I can empathise with the fact that it feels odd to romance Liara with another Shepard. I used to feel the same way, and could only ever see Liara with my canon Shepard, Kate. However, I'm enjoying my current playthrough with Keira, especially when considering the fact that I roleplay the romance differently. Try romancing Liara with a Shepard that is quite vastly different from your canon, as it may give you a different perspective on the romance.

I don't think this is my problem (that I can't play through the Liaramance with another Shepard that's not Rachel).  I think I'm just having a hard time finding another Shepard that I like as much as her.   I need to make a Renegade...someone like Amelia

I actually thought she had potential, though I need to alter some things with her.

[TheMarshal]

jlb524 wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...

Now that my wife's back in grad school, I'm planning on doing an Insanity playthrough on Alice, then trying out a few other classes. One will probably be more "Renegade-y", and will still romance Liara. The other one I'm not sure about, but I may just go the friend route with Liara (if I can manage to restrain myself... >.>)

Good luck with that. 

Yeah, I honestly don't see it happening, unless, like, I were to actively hide from Liara between missions.  It's just so second-nature to me at this point to return from a mission and immediately head down to the med-bay to chat up Liara.

Or perhaps I just skip ME1 altogether and use the ME2 save editor to get the choices that I wanted...

[jlb524]

TheMarshal wrote...

Yeah, I honestly don't see it happening, unless, like, I were to actively hide from Liara between missions.  It's just so second-nature to me at this point to return from a mission and immediately head down to the med-bay to chat up Liara.

Well...you could always save Therum for last. 

TheMarshal wrote...
Or perhaps I just skip ME1 altogether and use the ME2 save editor to get the choices that I wanted...

Or just this.

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

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If you do, then this Shepard had better treat her right!

Amelia was fine!

Modifié par jlb524, 26 janvier 2011 - 08:43 .

[TheMarshal]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
I need to make a Renegade...someone like Amelia

<_<

If you do, then this Shepard had better treat her right!

Something I'm missing, here? 

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

On a somewhat related note, I agree with your belief that Paragade Shepards pair well with Liara, as she can act as a calming influence, and someone who supports Shepard. Paragade Shepard/Liara possesses a unique and interesting relationship dynamic.

I concur.  My second playthrough with Alice had me choosing a few more of the Renegade options (overall, not just with their relationship) and it felt like a much better fit.  Full Paragon makes it feel a little over-balanced.  Plus, when LotSB rolls around, Liara's a little more Paragade-y herself. 

[JaylaClark]

Only losers winners drink Paragade!

Liara's definitely got a lot of that going on in LotSB, and Anya (and Arya, though they're pretty much just the Vanguard and Adept versions of the same SS/Colonist character) is more of a Paragade than Alyna is -- the kind that can let the hostages die, convince themselves that she's going to save another million colonists from being threatened by Balak, but will have the hostages haunt her dreams for a good long while and wonder if she made the right decision.

Liara, as I've noticed, has always had a tough side to her (especially in gameplay -- biotic pushing someone off a cliff comes to mind!), but as of LotSB, she's gotten ... I'm going to say hardened-with-a-small-h, to differentiate from the massive change that Hardening Alistair and Leliana causes in DA:O.  But the galaxy has toughened her, a lot, and it shows.

[Cranyx]

But here's the question, has her character changed enough that she isn't the same person we all came to love?

[TheMarshal]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...



Speaking of darkness/ruthlessness...

Sith Liara

Her Force Lightning actually reminds me of biotics. XD

Awesome!

I really need to learn how to draw...

[Chief Martini]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...



Speaking of darkness/ruthlessness...

Sith Liara

Her Force Lightning actually reminds me of biotics. XD

UNLIMITED.......CUTENEEEESS!

[Cranyx]

Does anyone else get annoyed that even if you never show any romantic interest in Tali, throughout ME2 people keep bringing up that she loves you (at least for male-shep) such as Kelly and Kasumi.



I really like Tali's character, but If it's established in my profile's story that I only romance Liara, then why would they have the crew mention that?

[JaylaClark]

Cranyx wrote...

But here's the question, has her character changed enough that she isn't the same person we all came to love?

No, I don't think so.  I think that the core of her character is still very much the same.  She's just someone who's found out what she's capable of, and when she gets the responsibility in LotSB that carries with it rather a lot of power, that can very easily be abused, she reacts just like I'd expect her to do -- the greater good is most important.

[TheMarshal]

I think that Tali's character allows for a crush on Shepard, regardless of who gets romanced. Listening to her journal entries on Haestrom ("I wish Shepard were here...") and reading her dossier from LotSB ("Downloaded education vid, "Understanding Body Language:Human Edition" -Downloaded education vid, "Human Courtship and Mating" ), it seems pretty obvious that Shepard means a great deal to her, whether or not the feeling is mutual.

[jlb524]

I agree with LesEnfants and Jayla regarding Liara's character change...I've got nuthin to add.

[TheMarshal]

jlb524 wrote...

I agree with LesEnfants and Jayla regarding Liara's character change...I've got nuthin to add.

Yeah.  Kinda hard to expand on that.