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Liara T'Soni Character Discussion Thread *possible ME3 spoilers*


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http://digital.darkh...com/coming-2011

Hmm, did they make a CG Liara just for advertising, or are they doing something new with her?


Perhaps advertising for ME3...that looks pretty cool, though.


Yeah, I gues -- (looks at avatar)

Ooh! Picture of updated Liara in labcoat!
Want to see full and bigger picture please!

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jlb524 wrote...

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http://digital.darkh...com/coming-2011

Hmm, did they make a CG Liara just for advertising, or are they doing something new with her?


Perhaps advertising for ME3...that looks pretty cool, though.


What CG Liara? When I open the link I just get a screen asking me to subscribe to their newsletter. Though a CG Liara in ME3 advertising would make me very happy.

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Yeah, I gues -- (looks at avatar)

Ooh! Picture of updated Liara in labcoat!
Want to see full and bigger picture please!


I concur! 

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oxymoo28 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

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http://digital.darkh...com/coming-2011

Hmm, did they make a CG Liara just for advertising, or are they doing something new with her?


Perhaps advertising for ME3...that looks pretty cool, though.


What CG Liara? When I open the link I just get a screen asking me to subscribe to their newsletter. Though a CG Liara in ME3 advertising would make me very happy.


The blue girl on one of the bottom screens. It's Liara.

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The blue girl on one of the bottom screens. It's Liara.


I know, but because she's wearing the armour from redemption I just assumed it was a better quality image that may have been used on the cover, or for advertising the comic. I thought a different company was responsible for the CG trailers?

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Ooh! Picture of updated Liara in labcoat!
Want to see full and bigger picture please!


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Here!

I have a few more too.

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oxymoo28 wrote...

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The blue girl on one of the bottom screens. It's Liara.


I know, but because she's wearing the armour from redemption I just assumed it was a better quality image that may have been used on the cover, or for advertising the comic. I thought a different company was responsible for the CG trailers?


Blur does the CGI trailers.  This was possibly alternate Redemption cover art that they were using.  I really like the pic regardless and wish there was a bigger version of it.

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::swoons:: Dare I ask what those shots are from?

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*snipped awesome pics of Liara awesomeness*


:o:wub: is pretty much all I can say to that.

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::swoons:: Dare I ask what those shots are from?


I'm pretty sure they were taken during the Overlord mission, though I might be wrong.

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oxymoo28 wrote...

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The blue girl on one of the bottom screens. It's Liara.


I know, but because she's wearing the armour from redemption I just assumed it was a better quality image that may have been used on the cover, or for advertising the comic. I thought a different company was responsible for the CG trailers?


It's not from any of the marketing or cover images, I know that. It's new. My guess is that either dark horse is doing another comic with her, or she's going to be one of their advertising characters when they launch their Digital Comics app. Possibly even using a CG trailer to advertise the app.

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oxymoo28 wrote...

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::swoons:: Dare I ask what those shots are from?


I'm pretty sure they were taken during the Overlord mission, though I might be wrong.


You are correct.  I'm using a mod where you can play as Liara.

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TMA LIVE wrote...

oxymoo28 wrote...

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The blue girl on one of the bottom screens. It's Liara.


I know, but because she's wearing the armour from redemption I just assumed it was a better quality image that may have been used on the cover, or for advertising the comic. I thought a different company was responsible for the CG trailers?


It's not from any of the marketing or cover images, I know that. It's new. My guess is that either dark horse is doing another comic with her, or she's going to be one of their advertising characters when they launch their Digital Comics app. Possibly even using a CG trailer to advertise the app.


Oh, that makes sense. Though hopefully they'll stay well away from Liara in future comics, if Redemption is anything to go by.

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You are correct.  I'm using a mod where you can play as Liara.


Oh the woes of owning the Xbox 360 version, that would be so cool.

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oxymoo28 wrote...

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oxymoo28 wrote...

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The blue girl on one of the bottom screens. It's Liara.


I know, but because she's wearing the armour from redemption I just assumed it was a better quality image that may have been used on the cover, or for advertising the comic. I thought a different company was responsible for the CG trailers?


It's not from any of the marketing or cover images, I know that. It's new. My guess is that either dark horse is doing another comic with her, or she's going to be one of their advertising characters when they launch their Digital Comics app. Possibly even using a CG trailer to advertise the app.


Oh, that makes sense. Though hopefully they'll stay well away from Liara in future comics, if Redemption is anything to go by.


Well, I know a lot of people don't like Redemption, but it's grown on me. I pull it out, and give it a read from time to time. At first I thought Liara was completely out of character, but after playing LOTSB, I've noticed she's very similar to that version of her. I just don't think they got her face right (she doesn't have freckles, and has hairy eyebrows, etc). And there's still some moments where I think Liara wouldn't do that (when she explodes on the Shadow Broker's statue without trying to reason with him, or offer to buy Shepard's corpse). But over all, I've seen worse, and it's not that bad.  

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oxymoo28 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

You are correct.  I'm using a mod where you can play as Liara.


Oh the woes of owning the Xbox 360 version, that would be so cool.




I feel your pain.

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jlb524 wrote...

Here!

(snip)


Lovely. <3

Though I still feel like she's beyond the labcoat now, and deserves something more special for ME3.

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Well, I know a lot of people don't like Redemption, but it's grown on me. I pull it out, and give it a read from time to time. At first I thought Liara was completely out of character, but after playing LOTSB, I've noticed she's very similar to that version of her. I just don't think they got her face right (she doesn't have freckles, and has hairy eyebrows, etc). And there's still some moments where I think Liara wouldn't do that (when she explodes on the Shadow Broker's statue without trying to reason with him, or offer to buy Shepard's corpse). But over all, I've seen worse, and it's not that bad.  



I haven't gone back to the comic in a while. It's mostly the art style that puts me off, and the way she acted in some places just didn't fit her character to me. However I haven't read it after having played through LotSB.

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Though I still feel like she's beyond the labcoat now, and deserves something more special for ME3.


I'm expecting a variant on her LotSB armour, or something similar. But it would be cool if they went back to the ME system of characters having separate casual and combat outfits. Not necessarily having all the different armours ME had, but just something that would protect better against vacuum and projectiles than some of the ME2 outfits *cough* Miranda *cough* Jack *cough*

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I actually think that Liara has always possessed the ability to be ruthless whenever necessary, even before her ME2 character development. As has been stated before, Liara is fully aware of the fact that such conduct is morally questionable, and dislikes it when she is forced to do so. But she only does so out of necessity, and with a great deal of regret, guilt and remorse. In that respect, Liara's moral code has not really changed, and she's still the same woman that we fell in love with in ME1.

The reason as to why I believe that said ruthlessness has always been within her capabilities is because she is incredibly strong-willed, and has always pursued her goals with determination. Liara defied what had been expected of her in following in her mother's footsteps, and becoming a leader amongst the asari. She's always been willing to stand up for what she believes in, and is strong and assertive. I think these traits may have assisted her in developing her personality, and allowed her to compromise her morals when forced to do so. Furthermore, as a powerful and respected leader, I think that Matriarch Benezia would have often been forced into making difficult decisions, in which no answer is truly "correct". Leaders often have to do unpleasant things out of necessity, and Benezia is no exception. Liara and Shiala state that Benezia advocated peace, and was not violent or aggressive at all. She would have been forced to do some morally questionable things, and would have hated doing so, similar to how we describe Liara. I think that Liara would have recognised this from a relatively early age, and may have even been educated by Benezia on this manner of conducting oneself. If Liara was expected to follow in Benezia's footsteps, then logic dictates that she would have been taught how to be reasonably ruthless when necessary.

Additionally, many people seem to overlook that, in ME1, Liara encourages Shepard to defy the orders of the Citadel Council and Ambassador Udina, and find a way to get to Ilos. Liara is actually suggesting that Shepard commit treason, and disobey galactic government. Again, this illustrates the reason as to why I believe that Liara has always possessed the ability to act in a way that she finds morally reprehensible, and only when it is a necessity. I think it's merely a case of ME2/LotSB being the first instance of this ability manifesting itself.

Like Paragon Shepard, Liara is willing and able to do some dirty things when it's an absolute necessity, and for the greater good. She may not like it, but she's able to do so when her hand is forced.


I agree with this assessment of Liara's character change between games and comics wholeheartedly. Very well put Les. Im glad you dident try to ignore her more aggressive actions. 

I would have abbreviated your quote but I thought if I did most of the meaning would have been lost, and its such a good explination;P

I also agree she strives for the greater good but she still has the strength to do what must be done at times, but that dosent mean she nessisarily enjoys it.

I also belive her passionate personality pushes her, and even if she was a bit different in ME2 then ME1 she is still the same person on the inside. I knew she would be fine, and thats part of why I stuck by her even in the uncertain days before LotSB

To me, a lot of this makes her character balanced by showing this range of emotions and actions.

Next I want to see Liara laughing her head off, I mean rolling on the floor. I dont think Ive seen that in any of the games me1 or me2, and it would be nice to switch to a more light and Happy range of emotions in ME3. I would get a kick out of her being happy and smiling after all that darkness.

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oxymoo28 wrote...

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Though I still feel like she's beyond the labcoat now, and deserves something more special for ME3.


I'm expecting a variant on her LotSB armour, or something similar. But it would be cool if they went back to the ME system of characters having separate casual and combat outfits. Not necessarily having all the different armours ME had, but just something that would protect better against vacuum and projectiles than some of the ME2 outfits *cough* Miranda *cough* Jack *cough*


Agreed.  I brought Jack to Haestrom...  Talk about a poor choice for armor...


Liara's LotSB armor was excellent, but change is (almost) always good.  I'm curious to see what her "casual" outfit would be.  What would she wear while on the SB ship? 

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Agreed.  I brought Jack to Haestrom...  Talk about a poor choice for armor...


Liara's LotSB armor was excellent, but change is (almost) always good.  I'm curious to see what her "casual" outfit would be.  What would she wear while on the SB ship? 


I'm not sure tbh, but I would love to see a 'casual' outfit that comes across as casual. Like the ME equivalent of jeans and a shirt, not necessarily just for Liara. Given that she doesn't have to deal with people face to face anymore she could just wear whatever she wants.

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Given her history of living on archaeological digs, I can see her wearing the same thing day-in, day-out if she's on her own, just rolling out of bed, throwing some water on her face, and getting right to work in the morning (or whenever she wakes up).



In a more general sense, I wouldn't mind seeing a wider range of actual casual wear in the game, though I guess I'd rather have the dev's time spent on gameplay if it's a choice between the two.

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Given her history of living on archaeological digs, I can see her wearing the same thing day-in, day-out if she's on her own, just rolling out of bed, throwing some water on her face, and getting right to work in the morning (or whenever she wakes up).

In a more general sense, I wouldn't mind seeing a wider range of actual casual wear in the game, though I guess I'd rather have the dev's time spent on gameplay if it's a choice between the two.


I agree 100%.  I don't think she was one to care much about her looks, and could often be caught with dirt on her face.

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Well, I know a lot of people don't like Redemption, but it's grown on me. I pull it out, and give it a read from time to time.


I should probably re-read it since it's been...almost a year since I read the last issue....see if I can find a new appreciation for it.

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And there's still some moments where I think Liara wouldn't do that (when she explodes on the Shadow Broker's statue without trying to reason with him, or offer to buy Shepard's corpse).


I think that's actually more in character than her lashing out violently at that batarian.  The 'statue' wasn't reasoning with her.