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[TheMarshal]

Wulfram wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
After all, as you stated, she has been fighting and killing people since before Shepard was even born, and has also forged a successful career as a renowned Prothean expert and archaeologist.

I didn't get the impression she was especially renowned.  Doesn't she suggest no one takes her theories about the cycle of extinctions seriously because she's too young?

Whether she was well-known as an archaeologist wasn't ever specifically addressed, though I imagine that if people are reading her opinions - even if they're simply rejecting them - she has to have at least SOME amount of renown.  Being Benezia's daughter probably garnered her a bit of notoriety in its own right.


*edit* I believe totp deserves some Liara...

Modifié par TheMarshal, 24 février 2011 - 08:05 .

[Wulfram]

Did a quick bit of research.  The mission description in the journal - which I never normally read - does say she's famed for her knowledge of the Protheans.

Though I might choose to ignore that for my own personal fanon.

[Sable Phoenix]

Just revisiting the last page for a quick comment... I don't actually think that Liara's face shape has changed at all between the games. The only thing that makes her look so different in LOTSB is the new textures, and they did alter the normal map a little bit so that it would work in the harsher lighting of ME2, which seems to make her chin and nasal-labial folds a bit more pronounced.

[TheMarshal]

Sable Phoenix wrote...

Just revisiting the last page for a quick comment... I don't actually think that Liara's face shape has changed at all between the games. The only thing that makes her look so different in LOTSB is the new textures, and they did alter the normal map a little bit so that it would work in the harsher lighting of ME2, which seems to make her chin and nasal-labial folds a bit more pronounced.

After posting the three comparison pics one after the other on the last page, I agree with you.  I thought that her facial structure had changed, but it just looks like the change in skin tone and even the eye color change give her face a completely different feel despire the changes being superficial.

[TMA LIVE]

TheMarshal wrote...

LotSB

<3

[emmanuelsieyes]

Could be -- ME2 has a strong tendancy towards red/brown hues.



This was just something that I thought of in the Mordin thread. Obviously, we know that Liara's Prothean expertise is going to be relevant (finally) in ME3.



I'm thinking that part of the main questline might be working with Liara to utilize some sort of Prothean technology. I think it would be really awesome if you could bring in some other squadmates. For instance, if Mordin/Tali/Legion survive, then they could be working with Liara and Shepard to develop some sort of an anti-Reaper weapon (based off Prothean tech).



Another bit of backstory that I'd like to know -- we know Liara is a Prothean expert. But is she an expert on their history, or on their technology (if not both). I don't think it's really ever been fleshed out what exactly Liara has been researching.



Also -- anyone keeping an eye on the new DLC? Apparently, it involves the discovery of some Prothean artifact. I'm hoping that Liara makes an appearance in this DLC.

[AndroLeonidas]

emmanuelsieyes wrote...

Could be -- ME2 has a strong tendancy towards red/brown hues.

This was just something that I thought of in the Mordin thread. Obviously, we know that Liara's Prothean expertise is going to be relevant (finally) in ME3.

I'm thinking that part of the main questline might be working with Liara to utilize some sort of Prothean technology. I think it would be really awesome if you could bring in some other squadmates. For instance, if Mordin/Tali/Legion survive, then they could be working with Liara and Shepard to develop some sort of an anti-Reaper weapon (based off Prothean tech).

Another bit of backstory that I'd like to know -- we know Liara is a Prothean expert. But is she an expert on their history, or on their technology (if not both). I don't think it's really ever been fleshed out what exactly Liara has been researching.

Also -- anyone keeping an eye on the new DLC? Apparently, it involves the discovery of some Prothean artifact. I'm hoping that Liara makes an appearance in this DLC.

Well... if it does turn out to be a bridging DLC, it would need to have Shep and Liara in it since it is Shep's story. As involved as they both are against the Reapers it would be hard to have a DLC without them. (Hard to play it too!)

[azarhal]

emmanuelsieyes wrote...

Another bit of backstory that I'd like to know -- we know Liara is a Prothean expert. But is she an expert on their history, or on their technology (if not both). I don't think it's really ever been fleshed out what exactly Liara has been researching.

Her area of expertise is actually the Prothean's extinction, she says so in the debriefing after Therum, but you need to let her explain her stuff to have the line. She spend 50 years trying to explain how and why the Protheans actually vannished and that's why she made her extinction cycle theory, but the whole thing all fall into Shepard's lap in ME1 (pick her after Virmire, she's not exactly happy about it). Also, she seems to have a good understanding of the Protheans technology and architecture as shown by ME1 (therum defence mechanism, how the beacon works, etc).

[jlb524]

emmanuelsieyes wrote...

Also -- anyone keeping an eye on the new DLC? Apparently, it involves the discovery of some Prothean artifact. I'm hoping that Liara makes an appearance in this DLC.

Yeah, I have been paying attention, though I strongly doubt the DLC will have anything to do with Liara, given that playing LotSB isn't a requirement to play it.

We will have to wait until ME3 for more Liara.

[Robhuzz]

jlb524 wrote...

emmanuelsieyes wrote...

Also -- anyone keeping an eye on the new DLC? Apparently, it involves the discovery of some Prothean artifact. I'm hoping that Liara makes an appearance in this DLC.

Yeah, I have been paying attention, though I strongly doubt the DLC will have anything to do with Liara, given that playing LotSB isn't a requirement to play it.

We will have to wait until ME3 for more Liara.

Given that this new DLC will be the last one for ME2 and has to be played after the suicide mission (with a possible 'end of game' once you've finished the DLC) the game could treat Lotsb as canon by then as you might not be able to play Lotsb afterwards. In which case Liara could play a role here. Here's to hoping Liara will be giving us intel in this DLC:)

[jlb524]

I really like Liara's facial expressions when speaking on Azure.







...like so.

[Xilizhra]

Ah, yes... Liara's animation, like everything else about her, was wonderful in LotSB.

[Sticken Chuffing]

I hope this is a sign of things to come. If they can incorporate this level of detail in to their animations without going too overboard (over animated things are a pet peeve of mine) then any future DLC and ME3 will be very special indeed.

[TheMarshal]

They definitely paid a great deal of attention to her facial features, even pre-LotSB.











I suppose that's the benefit of being one of the few aliens on the crew with recognizable facial features.



She's always been a very expressive character, both physically and vocally, even in ME1. It's one of the many reasons that I'm drawn to her character.

[TheMarshal]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Oh, and regarding the possibility of Liara being featured in the Arrival DLC, I think the most that we can realistically hope for is that, if Lair of the Shadow Broker has been successfully completed, Shepard will receive an email from Liara in lieu of TIM. Even then, the chances of that happening are remote.

We shall have to patiently wait for ME3 for more Liara!

And patient we shall be!  Creating polls and fanart and fanfiction (well...  SOME of us are writing fanfiction while others are lagging...  >.>)

[jlb524]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa



...speaking of lagging...I need to update mine this weekend. XD

[TheMarshal]

I at least have an excuse! My beta reader's on a snowboarding trip. Chapter 4 is sitting in his inbox waiting for him.



And yes, jlb, you do need to update yours this weekend! Moar Duty Calls!

[Robhuzz]

rynluna wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...
She's always been a very expressive character, both physically and vocally, even in ME1. It's one of the many reasons that I'm drawn to her character.

Agreed.  I also looooove her voice.  Back on the old thread I mentioned that I would pay to listen to her recite a phonebook.  :lol:lol!

Everyone's got to love Liara's voice - among other things. With the exeption of a certain "I'll flay you alive(...)" line.