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[azarhal]

Ericzio wrote...

You mean to tell me that saying one line can screw up the whole relationship between liara and shep? huh, also i would like to know what whould happen if you said goodbye to liara instead of "i want to talk about us" option on the shadow broker ship? just curious.

You actually need to take  2. I just replayed it, If you take "just nerve" and goodbye you turn the romance into a friendship, because Liara say "what I need right now is a friend", you get friendship dialog in the Normandy. The "I want to talk about us" is still there though (faulty memory, I didn't use it last night).

I also tried with the hug with no paragon kiss, goodbye also return the "what I need right now is a friend". So only the Paragon kiss is a sure way of having the romance scene in the Normandy. Although, no Paragon kiss give the best answer to "Feron and her" question, IMO and suggest using the "I want to talk about us" dialog option too.

Modifié par azarhal, 28 février 2011 - 11:46 .

[TheMarshal]

azarhal wrote...

I also tried with the hug with no paragon kiss, goodbye also return the "what I need right now is a friend". So only the Paragon kiss is a sure way of having the romance scene in the Normandy. Although, no Paragon kiss give the best answer to "Feron and her" question, IMO and suggest using the "I want to talk about us" dialog option too.

Well I'm never going to not give her the paragon-interrupt kiss, so what is her answer to the Feron part if you don't do that?

[TheMarshal]

Ericzio wrote...

I'm sorry, what i meant was say goodbye to her, but still have a relationship going on with her, does she try to talk to you again? like interrupt shepard before he/she leaves? 

I'm now seeing this scene play from Liara's perspective, and as Shepard turns to leave, the little blue Paragon icon pops up and she right-clicks to spin Shepard around and kiss her.

[TheMarshal]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...

Well I'm never going to not give her the paragon-interrupt kiss, so what is her answer to the Feron part if you don't do that?

She jokes that Shepard is jealous, and then seriously says that she wants the Commander to "do something about it". I think this roughly translates as "If you're interested in me, then please let our relationship continue!!!".

See...  as awesome as that line is, I just can't bring myself to play hard to get at that point.  Even in the cabin scene, I always wind up choosing the middle option when she asks how Shepard's really doing (she's got Liara back, how could she not be feeling alright?), and "Done" when Liara says she needs to know if Shepard's always coming back.

[azarhal]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...

Well I'm never going to not give her the paragon-interrupt kiss, so what is her answer to the Feron part if you don't do that?

She jokes that Shepard is jealous, and then seriously says that she wants the Commander to "do something about it". I think this roughly translates as "If you're interested in me, then please let our relationship continue!!!".

*Shepard select the "Are you in a relationship?" option*
"So...You and Feron?"
"We are just friend"
*Liara walk into Shepard's personal space*
"Commander are you jealous? If you are concerned, you know what you have to do about it."
*Liara take a step back*
*Shepard select the "I want to talk about us" dialog option to do something about it*

Liara really want to relationship to continue, but she's waiting for Shepard to show signs of still being interested. Which could be the Paragon-interrupt kiss or iniating the "talk".  Also, I don't believe that any of the choices in LotSB will hurt the relationship that much in ME3 from a gameplay point-of-view. To avoid having too many dialog lines they will probably have a single romance path which will start at "friends for now".

[pacer90]

Funny moment for you all...

during LotSB after the Shadow Broker was defeated I was standing up punching the air. Thus, my controller wasn't in my hand.

I missed the paragon interrupt on my first playthrough! No "ok...ok..ok.." for me! But to be honest when Liara started saying "are you jealous?" It was wayyy better. Never expected that from her.

[Xilizhra]

TheMarshal wrote...

Ericzio wrote...

I'm sorry, what i meant was say goodbye to her, but still have a relationship going on with her, does she try to talk to you again? like interrupt shepard before he/she leaves? 

I'm now seeing this scene play from Liara's perspective, and as Shepard turns to leave, the little blue Paragon icon pops up and she right-clicks to spin Shepard around and kiss her.

Now that is awesome.

[patocerda]

TheMarshal wrote...

Finally finished editing!

A Good Night - Chapter 4!

I'm loving this one, really outstanding work in there Marshal, I just love how a great FanFic can expand the universe!
Might as well do one myself, someday...for now, I have school. It starts tomorrow, heh, it's all over again.

Anyway, keep it on! 

[TheMarshal]

Put something together this afternoon/evening.  Vaguely Liara-related, as it focused on Alice Shepard (a reknowned Liara-lover) immediately following the events of Lair of the Shadow Broker.

Enjoy

@patocerda - I'm glad you like it!

Modifié par TheMarshal, 01 mars 2011 - 07:28 .

[Robhuzz]

pacer90 wrote...

Funny moment for you all...

during LotSB after the Shadow Broker was defeated I was standing up punching the air. Thus, my controller wasn't in my hand.

I missed the paragon interrupt on my first playthrough! No "ok...ok..ok.." for me! But to be honest when Liara started saying "are you jealous?" It was wayyy better. Never expected that from her.

Now you've got my attention. Next time I'll deliberately miss the paragon interrupt (but not before making a permanent save right before the fight of course) and go for the 'you and feron' dialogue choice.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

TheMarshal wrote...

See...  as awesome as that line is, I just can't bring myself to play hard to get at that point.  Even in the cabin scene, I always wind up choosing the middle option when she asks how Shepard's really doing (she's got Liara back, how could she not be feeling alright?), and "Done" when Liara says she needs to know if Shepard's always coming back.

I never pick the middle option. I find it hard to believe that Shepard is all 100% okay after everything that have happend, even if Liara is back. And there is not a single thing that is bothering Shepard.
For me, picking the middle option just means Shepard does not wish to share his feelings with Liara and lies as a result. I also find it silly to waste the only opportunity in ME2 to have Shepard express feelings at the events that happend to him by picking the "Meh, whatever" option.

[TheMarshal]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Really? I find this quite interesting, especially when considering the discussion that has occurred over the past few pages, specifically relating to Shepard and Liara's ability to confide in each other. Do you not appreciate the fact that Liara is one of few people around which that Shepard feels comfortable enough to display some form of emotional vulnerability? Personally, I feel that this is a key aspect of their relationship, romantic or otherwise. Shepard and Liara's ability to seek comfort in each other's arms is a trait that I admire, and is something that has been present ever since their romance sparked into life during the events of ME1.

I think about Liara's dialogue during the locker scene, in ME1, and I still get goosebumps. Her attempts to reinvigorate Shepard with the confidence and the determination to continue onward are...inspiring!

I absolutely believe that Liara is one of the few people that Shepard can let her guard down around.  At the time, though, I didn't see the middle option as a cop-out, or trying to 'act tough' in spite of everything.  I do the cabin scene (immediately) after finishing the SM (even though I run LotSB prior to the SM), so in that moment I weighed my options.  Shepard had just come back through the Omega 4 relay without losing anybody.  She'd just told TIM where he can stick it.  And she was standing in a room with Liara looking quite fetching in that dress...  So yeah, at that moment, she actually IS fine.  She's happy - riding the high.  Tomorrow she can worry about tomorrow, but today, things are pretty damn good! 

[jtav]

A short I originally did for the Mass Effect kink meme, but very much safe for work.

Summary: Miranda reminiseces. Liara has an offer.

[oxymoo28]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Indeed! As I mentioned above, the fact that both Shepard and Liara feel comfortable in confiding in each other is an aspect of the romance that I absolutely adore, and is testament to the depth of the genuine love and empathy that exists in their relationship. It is an admirable dynamic to possess in any romance, and it exists in abundance within the Shepard/Liara love story.

Furthermore, considering Liara's new position as the Shadow Broker, does anybody else recognise and like the fact that the pair of them are now dependent on each other in order to emerge victorious from the forthcoming Reaper war? Shepard is relying upon Liara's information network and intelligence, and Liara requires Shepard's military experience and combat prowess, in addition to her ability to lead and inspire and army. Again, this serves to strengthen their relationship, and showcases the mutual trusts that exists in their partnership.

Yes they certainly do need each other in order to defeat the Reaper threat, and Liara had become a very important person indeed by becoming the Shadow Broker. I view it as a continuation on their relationship of equals, they are now equals on the galactic stage too. And whilst it's been a topic of conversation before, Liara's position makes her a very strong, one could argue essential, ally against the Reapers.

One thing that has always interested me, is the 'Asari Scientist' moniker as the title for Liara's stats screen. Now, don't get me wrong, I recognise Liara is exceedingly intelligent and an expert in her field, but I wouldn't personally categorize her field as a science. Not that it bothers me in any way, just something I found interesting.

Does anyone think there is any chance of Liara involvement in the Arrival DLC? Because this Object Rho sounds like it could well be a Prothean artifact. It could just be an e-mail, and if this DLC can only be started after finishing the main quest the game could detect whether we've saved the collector base or not, and whether we've completed LotSB or not.

[TheMarshal]

oxymoo28 wrote...

Does anyone think there is any chance of Liara involvement in the Arrival DLC? Because this Object Rho sounds like it could well be a Prothean artifact. It could just be an e-mail, and if this DLC can only be started after finishing the main quest the game could detect whether we've saved the collector base or not, and whether we've completed LotSB or not.

I highly doubt that LotSB will tie in to this in any way, just because of the nature of DLC.  One DLC cannot assume that another DLC has been installed without actually making it a requirement.  If there's anything about LotSB Liara in Arrival, it will likely be brief, and written (no voicework), and only show up if you've purchased/completed LotSB.

But who knows?  Maybe we'll all be pleasantly surprised!

[oxymoo28]

TheMarshal wrote...

I highly doubt that LotSB will tie in to this in any way, just because of the nature of DLC.  One DLC cannot assume that another DLC has been installed without actually making it a requirement.  If there's anything about LotSB Liara in Arrival, it will likely be brief, and written (no voicework), and only show up if you've purchased/completed LotSB.

But who knows?  Maybe we'll all be pleasantly surprised!

Maybe we will, I would like it to happen, and I like to think it wouldn't be too hard to add something written. That said I know nothing about how building a game or DLC works. I'm looking forward to Arrival either way, given what we know about it so far, which is admittedly little.