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centauri2002 wrote...

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Still haven't really done a lot (like 2 pages :L)... I have been concentrating on my videos, but I'm gonna take a break from them for a few days and focus on my writing... It's just so tempting, I'm laying in bed and then I think of a new idea for a Mass Effect video :L... I'm gonna do a few more Liara videos (tributes mainly). I'm also going to do a parody.. I have so many Mass Effect quotes and I love syncing it with the Mass Effect music (I have done that with my Liara tribute too)... So hopefully in a few days I can post the first chapter of my Fanfiction :D!


Why not write your ideas down? That way you can come back to them later when you can put aside time to work on them. :) I have my li'l black book o' story ideas for my original fiction. Heck, I have a second one now due to the other being filled. I may never use them but they're there. :3


I put my story ideas in a book, but for my video ideas I normally just do it as soon as I think of it... Most of the time I spend on my videos is not actually making the video, it's blending music together (sometimes with dialogue)... So it's hard to explain different ways to blend different music tracks, but I suppose I could try explaining them :L thanks :)

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I wrestle with a lot of ideas while I'm working on one story (A Good Night has been on the backburner for more than a month now 'cause I kept getting sidetracked with the 6+ other stories I've got kicking around), and I've been thinking about doing something like this.  What do you write down when you're trying to get the idea out of your head and onto paper?  A general summary?  Major plot points?  Key scenes?  Character sketches?


I think most writers have this problem to some degree. Darned overactive imaginations. But I definitely encourage having a little book that you can keep at your bedside and carry around in your bag, just in case.

What I write down depends quite heavily on the idea that comes to me. If I have another idea for my novel, then I'll write as much down as possible. I have a book dedicated to this, actually. So it can range from anything like character outlines, to plot points, to location ideas. No idea is a bad idea so it's worth jotting down, even if you don't use it for that particular story.

As for short story ideas, I generally only write a couple of lines on characters and then an outline of the story. I'll leave it at that until I choose to continue with it.

Fan fiction I don't tend to write down at all. If I get in the mood for it, I'll sit down and write it and then post it up. But I think I have a few noted down somewhere. If an idea really consumes my thoughts, I'll just write that one scene and save the file somewhere, just in case I decide to continue with the story. That generally gets it out of my system. :)

So how do you handle writing so many at once? Work on one at a time or switch between them depending on your mood?

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[quote]TheMarshal wrote...

[quote]centauri2002 wrote...

Why not write your ideas down? That way you can come back to them later when you can put aside time to work on them. :) I have my li'l black book o' story ideas for my original fiction. Heck, I have a second one now due to the other being filled. I may never use them but they're there. :3

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I wrestle with a lot of ideas while I'm working on one story (A Good Night has been on the backburner for more than a month now 'cause I kept getting sidetracked with the 6+ other stories I've got kicking around), and I've been thinking about doing something like this.  What do you write down when you're trying to get the idea out of your head and onto paper?  A general summary?  Major plot points?  Key scenes?  Character sketches? [/quote]
I normally summarise a scene in a few bullet points... With as little detail as possible, because I just work that out later :) That way I can write down ideas without forgetting them within the time it takes to write then down in detail (which has happened before :L)

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centauri2002 wrote...

I think most writers have this problem to some degree. Darned overactive imaginations. But I definitely encourage having a little book that you can keep at your bedside and carry around in your bag, just in case.

What I write down depends quite heavily on the idea that comes to me. If I have another idea for my novel, then I'll write as much down as possible. I have a book dedicated to this, actually. So it can range from anything like character outlines, to plot points, to location ideas. No idea is a bad idea so it's worth jotting down, even if you don't use it for that particular story.

As for short story ideas, I generally only write a couple of lines on characters and then an outline of the story. I'll leave it at that until I choose to continue with it.

Fan fiction I don't tend to write down at all. If I get in the mood for it, I'll sit down and write it and then post it up. But I think I have a few noted down somewhere. If an idea really consumes my thoughts, I'll just write that one scene and save the file somewhere, just in case I decide to continue with the story. That generally gets it out of my system. :)

So how do you handle writing so many at once? Work on one at a time or switch between them depending on your mood?


Well, I'm still pretty new to the whole 'writing' game, and tend to underestimate how much work it's going to take.  For example, A Good Night is at about 17k words with probably has another 10k to go in the story, and when I was somewhere in the 6k mark I thought I was damn near finished.  Silly me...  So a lot of these stories that I think will be 1k-2k words will probably wind up in the ~10k range, and I've got an idea for at least one story that I know will be closer to 50k by the time I finish (if that ever happens)

I've sort of been bouncing back and forth between stories for a while now.  I'll get an idea and it'll consume my every spare thought for a while, which of course kills any sort of creativity or motivation that I have to write the story that I'm working on at that moment.  Sometimes they're short enough that I can actually finish them, and I'll go ahead and post them (see: Reasons).  Sometimes they'll make their way to paper (incomplete, of course) and that'll be enough for me to move on.

For example, the stories that I've started while working on A Good Night are:
- An OC/Liara drama that takes place after Redemption, but before/during the events of ME2
- An action piece that takes place after ME2 but prior to ME3
- A hurt/angst story that details the 'rough second chapter' and the rekindling of the Shepard/Liara romance in the latter half of ME2

Some ideas that I have which haven't made their way to paper in any form:
- A Romance/Drama where Shepard and Liara (post-ME1) visit the part of Earth where Shepard grew up, reliving difficult memories of the place.
- A short character development piece about Shepard enlisting with the Alliance

I need to become a better writer just so I can keep my sanity!  So yeah, something that'll let me get the basic ideas out of my head without resorting to starting to write them out would be very nice indeed!  I need ;)

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Very nicely put together. :3

It's just such a pity I can't seem to stand watching MaleShep with Liara. Bah, I'm so intolerant. >.>

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centauri2002 wrote...

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Very nicely put together. :3

It's just such a pity I can't seem to stand watching MaleShep with Liara. Bah, I'm so intolerant. >.>


Haha... I was wondering that because (from what I've seen) most of us Liara fans are girls, (except me :P, I just thought she was cute and innocent... Obviously ME2 took the innocent part away for the most part), I have both my male shep and femshep romanced with Liara... (and a renegade male- shep with no-one and a renegade fem-shep with Garrus :L)... So it doesn't really bother me :L

How about in my next Liara tribute, I'll make it with fem-shep? :)

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Well, I'm still pretty new to the whole 'writing' game, and tend to underestimate how much work it's going to take.  For example, A Good Night is at about 17k words with probably has another 10k to go in the story, and when I was somewhere in the 6k mark I thought I was damn near finished.  Silly me...  So a lot of these stories that I think will be 1k-2k words will probably wind up in the ~10k range, and I've got an idea for at least one story that I know will be closer to 50k by the time I finish (if that ever happens)

I've sort of been bouncing back and forth between stories for a while now.  I'll get an idea and it'll consume my every spare thought for a while, which of course kills any sort of creativity or motivation that I have to write the story that I'm working on at that moment.  Sometimes they're short enough that I can actually finish them, and I'll go ahead and post them (see: Reasons).  Sometimes they'll make their way to paper (incomplete, of course) and that'll be enough for me to move on.

For example, the stories that I've started while working on A Good Night are:
- An OC/Liara drama that takes place after Redemption, but before/during the events of ME2
- An action piece that takes place after ME2 but prior to ME3
- A hurt/angst story that details the 'rough second chapter' and the rekindling of the Shepard/Liara romance in the latter half of ME2

Some ideas that I have which haven't made their way to paper in any form:
- A Romance/Drama where Shepard and Liara (post-ME1) visit the part of Earth where Shepard grew up, reliving difficult memories of the place.
- A short character development piece about Shepard enlisting with the Alliance

I need to become a better writer just so I can keep my sanity!  So yeah, something that'll let me get the basic ideas out of my head without resorting to starting to write them out would be very nice indeed!  I need ;)


The story idea book seems to be the way forward then! I never really considered it until recent years but it's helped me out immensely. 

Oh, I know all about your stories getting away from you. I've written fan fiction, for example, that I've only intended on being a one-shot but it seems to continue on anyway. And I'm not even talking about the plot-driven pieces. My most popular piece on ff.net is little more than a smutfic, albeit en emotionally deep one, and that ended up with four chapters at 50k words. Never again though, I still get PM'd to update and I uploaded that about four years ago. >.>

All of your ideas sound interesting though. As long as you have those coming, you should keep trying to write as much as possible. :3 

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Haha... I was wondering that because (from what I've seen) most of us Liara fans are girls, (except me :P, I just thought she was cute and innocent... Obviously ME2 took the innocent part away for the most part), I have both my male shep and femshep romanced with Liara... (and a renegade male with no-one and a renegade fem-sheep with Garrus :L)... So it doesn't really bother me :L

How about in my next Liara tribute, I'll make it with fem-shep? :)


Haha, aww I'm sure there are more of you male Liara fans out there. ;)

She was cute and innocent but it was her character growth that really hooked me. There's still cute Liara under all of those defences in ME2 though. :3

Ooh, yes please. That would be greatly appreciated! I can't get enough of those FemShep/Liara tributes. :D

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JiGsAw2453 wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

JiGsAw2453 wrote...

The Liara tribute video has been uploaded and processed:


Very nicely put together. :3

It's just such a pity I can't seem to stand watching MaleShep with Liara. Bah, I'm so intolerant. >.>


Haha... I was wondering that because (from what I've seen) most of us Liara fans are girls, (except me :P, I just thought she was cute and innocent... Obviously ME2 took the innocent part away for the most part), I have both my male shep and femshep romanced with Liara... (and a renegade male- shep with no-one and a renegade fem-shep with Garrus :L)... So it doesn't really bother me :L

How about in my next Liara tribute, I'll make it with fem-shep? :)


Male fan here. You are not alone. ^_^

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She was cute and innocent but it was her character growth that really hooked me. There's still cute Liara under all of those defences in ME2 though. :3
Ooh, yes please. That would be greatly appreciated! I can't get enough of those FemShep/Liara tributes


I'll get on doing that :)... Once I've completed Arrival :L

I still think she's cute and innocent, but less innocent and more tough now :)

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JiGsAw2453 wrote...

I'll get on doing that :)... Once I've completed Arrival :L

I still think she's cute and innocent, but less innocent and more tough now :)


Yep, and the toughness is sexy. >:3

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[quote]patocerda wrote...

[quote]JiGsAw2453 wrote...

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Male fan here. You are not alone. ^_^

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Yay! :) lol

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centauri2002 wrote...

I still get PM'd to update and I uploaded that about four years ago. >.>


I recently PM'd this one author who last updated her story like three years ago just to tell her that I loved her work and when/if she ever planned to update it, there would be at least one fan looking forward to it.  Much to my surprise, she responded, saying that she WAS intending to update it at some point, but didn't give any details beyond that.

Honestly, I would have volunteered to babysit or clean her house or mow her lawn if it would have freed up enough of her time so that she could continue that story!

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Male fan here. You are not alone. ^_^


MaleFan/FemShep here

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I'm outnumbered by the males now. I'm in the minority. T_T

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I'll get on doing that :)... Once I've completed Arrival :L

I still think she's cute and innocent, but less innocent and more tough now :)


Yep, and the toughness is sexy. >:3


Yes it is :)

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TheMarshal wrote...

I recently PM'd this one author who last updated her story like three years ago just to tell her that I loved her work and when/if she ever planned to update it, there would be at least one fan looking forward to it.  Much to my surprise, she responded, saying that she WAS intending to update it at some point, but didn't give any details beyond that.

Honestly, I would have volunteered to babysit or clean her house or mow her lawn if it would have freed up enough of her time so that she could continue that story!


Aww, that's a nice thing to receive from a reader though, and I certainly don't mind polite and pleasant PMs. But it is a bit silly considering the tag on the story says "complete". >.> 

That said, some of my readers are just fantastic. I've had my stories translated into Chinese and French and circulated around foreign speaking communities, as well as a bunch of fan art depicting scenes from them. But a simple PM every now and then is just as delightful. :3

But, really, I get the most enjoyment just from the writing. I would still be typing away even if I got no reviews. :)

Edited to say: I forgot to ask but how is the Mass Effect fandom for support? Looks good so far but I haven't tested the waters yet. 

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What time does Arrival come out?

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It'll be out (at least on PC) at 9AM PST.

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Thanks :)...

Right :) glad you guys liked my Liara tribute vid :) I'm off to bed now :L so talk to you guys tomorrow :)

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patocerda wrote...

JiGsAw2453 wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

JiGsAw2453 wrote...

The Liara tribute video has been uploaded and processed:


Very nicely put together. :3

It's just such a pity I can't seem to stand watching MaleShep with Liara. Bah, I'm so intolerant. >.>


Haha... I was wondering that because (from what I've seen) most of us Liara fans are girls, (except me :P, I just thought she was cute and innocent... Obviously ME2 took the innocent part away for the most part), I have both my male shep and femshep romanced with Liara... (and a renegade male- shep with no-one and a renegade fem-shep with Garrus :L)... So it doesn't really bother me :L

How about in my next Liara tribute, I'll make it with fem-shep? :)


Male fan here. You are not alone. ^_^


Fourth male Liara fan (though I play as FemShep).

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patocerda wrote...

It'll be out (at least on PC) at 9AM PST.


This is when a seven hour time difference is not fun. D:


emmanuelsieyes wrote...

Fourth male Liara fan (though I play as FemShep). 

You're all coming out of the woodworks now. Maybe I should be asking where the other female fans are? :P

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centauri2002 wrote...

patocerda wrote...

It'll be out (at least on PC) at 9AM PST.


This is when a seven hour time difference is not fun. D:


Yeah right :L... I'll be buying it as soon as I can :)

Right, I have seriously got to go to sleep :L.. Cya :L

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Cya, I should go too.