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centauri2002 wrote...

I've seen a few comparison shots. Most notably it's in the sequence at the end when Liara steps into the lift and Shepard tells her to come back soon. She's not smiling at all there. Let me see if I can find the comparisons.

Edit: Here's the thread: http://social.biowar...ex/4916605&lf=8 and you can find official responses to it there too.


Interesting...  I knew about the sobbing thing (I actually prefer it without the audio.  Feels like it fits her character better), but the smiles are odd.  A teensy bit nitpicky, but I can see how some people might get upset about it.

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centauri2002 wrote...


I know those toils all too well. *shakes fist at writer's block*

I like the idea of exploring Liara's pain over losing Shepard and how she deals with it in the next two years. As long as there's happiness by the end of it. >.> 

What's your idea then? :3


My idea was a redone version of the Illium cameo. In order to understand it, you must understand how I roleplay my Shepard, so my idea was to have a few chapters before Illium itself.

But here's a quote from this thread that explains in rought details..

The part about Shepard not realising that other people beside
himself have suffered as well is a big part on how I roleplay my canon
Shepard during some of the scenes in ME2, Illium cameo being one of
them.

I think the line paragon Shepard gives to Mordin during his LM explains it perfectly.

"It's easy to miss others when you're in the middle of your own soul-searching".

The
quote might be used in a diffrent situation. But I think it can be used
here as well. Sometimes when we having a bad time, we might miss or
forget that other people might go through the same. And as a result we
hurt them, even if we didn't mean it.


As the Illium cameo. Shepard is pretty much pissed off at that point, everyone from his old had turned against him. He has not yet adapted to the fact that two years have gone and people have moved on. So when he sees how cold Liara reacts he finally just snaps (so to speak).

Couple that with Liara's cold attitude and her unwillingness to open up to Shepard due to her being afraid. And you got a fanfic filled with anger, bitterness, regret and other sweet emotions!

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TheMarshal wrote...


Interesting...  I knew about the sobbing thing (I actually prefer it without the audio.  Feels like it fits her character better), but the smiles are odd.  A teensy bit nitpicky, but I can see how some people might get upset about it.

Top of the page Liara!


I didn't know about the sobbing actually. I'm glad it's not there, as well. That might have been a little over-the-top and I see Liara as more restrained than that. The lack of smiling didn't bother me at all (only on the level of FemShep not getting the same treatment as MaleShep) and it seemed to suit the scenes fine. After all, Liara isn't going to be too happy about leaving Shepard who's just about to go off and face the Reapers.

That's a lovely shot of Liara by the way. :3

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This minor text is just something I started writing on. It had not been planned or anything, I just started writing roughly under an hour ago. I have not checked for gramma mistakes and I apologies for it.

I know it is a maleshep/Liara fic but please be kind and give it a shot! :)

Also remember to leave comments.

*snip*


Very nice.  It's always interesting delving into Liara's state of mind when she's on Illium.  She's going through so much turmoil, because of Shepard's death, because of handing over the body to Cerberus, because she left Feron to die in order to do so.  You touched on the guilt that's obviously been plaguing her, and how that translates to physical sensations.  Well done!

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My idea was a redone version of the Illium cameo. In order to understand it, you must understand how I roleplay my Shepard, so my idea was to have a few chapters before Illium itself.

But here's a quote from this thread that explains in rought details..

The part about Shepard not realising that other people beside
himself have suffered as well is a big part on how I roleplay my canon
Shepard during some of the scenes in ME2, Illium cameo being one of
them.

I think the line paragon Shepard gives to Mordin during his LM explains it perfectly.

"It's easy to miss others when you're in the middle of your own soul-searching".

The
quote might be used in a diffrent situation. But I think it can be used
here as well. Sometimes when we having a bad time, we might miss or
forget that other people might go through the same. And as a result we
hurt them, even if we didn't mean it.


As the Illium cameo. Shepard is pretty much pissed off at that point, everyone from his old had turned against him. He has not yet adapted to the fact that two years have gone and people have moved on. So when he sees how cold Liara reacts he finally just snaps (so to speak).

Couple that with Liara's cold attitude and her unwillingness to open up to Shepard due to her being afraid. And you got a fanfic filled with anger, bitterness, regret and other sweet emotions!


That seems a great way of approaching that scene. That's one of the interesting things about this fandom, there are always going to be different interpreations of scenes because we all play our Shepards differently. Or we at least view them differently.

Let me know how writing it goes. :)

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Very nice.  It's always interesting delving into Liara's state of mind when she's on Illium.  She's going through so much turmoil, because of Shepard's death, because of handing over the body to Cerberus, because she left Feron to die in order to do so.  You touched on the guilt that's obviously been plaguing her, and how that translates to physical sensations.  Well done!


Cheers! Did you feel I could have done anything better? Maybe improved on something?

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centauri2002 wrote...

Let me know how writing it goes. :)


Maybe I try to give it a shot again, for the fourth time!

Maybe I just need to hit myself with a hammer everytime I neglect writing the fanfic! ^_^

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Maybe I try to give it a shot again, for the fourth time!

Maybe I just need to hit myself with a hammer everytime I neglect writing the fanfic! ^_^


Yes, you should keep at it! :D

I'd post up an excerpt of my work-in-progress but I don't think it's appropriate content for here. >.>

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centauri2002 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

This minor text is just something I started writing on. It had not been planned or anything, I just started writing roughly under an hour ago. I have not checked for gramma mistakes and I apologies for it.

I know it is a maleshep/Liara fic but please be kind and give it a shot! :)

Also remember to leave comments.



Very touching, Lizard. It's a nice little reflective piece. :) I managed to overcome my MaleShep dislike for that short piece, so it's okay! Anything longer though and I think it'd
have to be FemShep. I'm stuck in my ways, it seems. >.>

There were some grammatical errors and typos there but, since you haven't checked over them, it's nothing to focus on. Are you going to continue with it? :)


@Lizard... Very good piece, I really enjoyed it :)

@Centauri... Oh no! I better change my FanFic to FemShep then :L... It would probably be a good challenge to set myself, writing in the mind of a woman hmmm... Luckily I have not written very much so I can easily change it :) This should be fun :)

P.s. The video is just processing ;P

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@Lizard... Very good piece, I really enjoyed it :)

@Centauri... Oh no! I better change my FanFic to FemShep then :L... It would probably be a good challenge to set myself, writing in the mind if a woman hmmm... Luckyily I have not written very much so J can easily change it :) This should be fun :)

P.s. The video is just processing ;P


Haha, well I would be happy if you did but don't change it on my account. Write what you're comfortable with and what you enjoy. :3

I don't think writing FemShep from a character perspective would be too different from writing MaleShep though. They're basically the same character in the game, just different genders. Obviously, from a physical perspective you'd need to write differently. :P

Yay, I've been waiting somewhat impatiently for it. ;)

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Good night everyone! I appreciate the positive comments on my minor text.

For those who will arrive in the thread later here's a link to my minor fanfic.

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Centauri2002 wrote...

I'd post up an excerpt of my work-in-progress but I don't think it's appropriate content for here. >.>


You're right :L it's not ;)

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Lizardviking wrote...

Cheers! Did you feel I could have done anything better? Maybe improved on something?


I'm always hesitant to suggest someone write one way or another, since I don't have any 'proper' training as a writer, so everything that I suggest is just going to be what I feel would sound better.

My only real suggestion is to play with the paragraphing and sentence composition a little bit in order to give some sentences/fragments a little more emphasis.

So...

... And if Shepard returned, would he forgive her?

Would anyone forgive her?

No.

That was the answer.  She would be hated.  Despised.


Stuff like that, where all  four of those lines were in one paragraph.  I also broke up the last two sentences into four to give each one just a little more *oomph*

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JiGsAw2453 wrote...

You're right :L it's not ;)


Prude! :P

Not even their first kiss? No? ...fine. *skulks off*

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centauri2002 wrote...

JiGsAw2453 wrote...

You're right :L it's not ;)


Prude! :P

Not even their first kiss? No? ...fine. *skulks off*


Haha... I kid :) I would love to read it :)

I could always post it up on my site, then put a link on here... But, What's the point? ;P just go ahead and post it up ;) I'm sure BioWare will love it ;L

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Haha... I kid :) I would love to read it :)

I could always post it up on my site, then put a link on here... But, What's the point? ;P just go ahead and post it up ;) I'm sure BioWare will love it ;L


I just read over the first part of the scene and now I'm concerned about putting it up. I know how some people can be and even though it's merely a kiss, it's descriptive and I don't want to offend anyone. Perhaps I'll just wait until I've finished the chapter and link it that way. >.>

I do have parts written that have nothing to do with that scene but, without context, they might be a bit confusing. 

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centauri2002 wrote...

JiGsAw2453 wrote...

@Lizard... Very good piece, I really enjoyed it :)

@Centauri... Oh no! I better change my FanFic to FemShep then :L... It would probably be a good challenge to set myself, writing in the mind if a woman hmmm... Luckyily I have not written very much so J can easily change it :) This should be fun :)

P.s. The video is just processing ;P


Haha, well I would be happy if you did but don't change it on my account. Write what you're comfortable with and what you enjoy. :3

I don't think writing FemShep from a character perspective would be too different from writing MaleShep though. They're basically the same character in the game, just different genders. Obviously, from a physical perspective you'd need to write differently. :P

Yay, I've been waiting somewhat impatiently for it. ;)


I think it would be fun :) Maybe the "physical" parts might be a bit strange for me to grasp... But then again I'm hardly going to go into as much detail as you ;) Lol...

The video is at 90% processing, It says 10 mins :)
Even I'm getting impatient, I want to know what you think of it :) hopefully it will make it onto your favourites :)

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I think it would be fun :) Maybe the "physical" parts might be a bit strange for me to grasp... But then again I'm hardly going to go into as much detail as you ;) Lol...

The video is at 90% processing, It says 10 mins :)
Even I'm getting impatient, I want to know what you think of it :) hopefully it will make it onto your favourites :)


True, then in that case I'm sure you'd do fine. :)

I'm going to have to check it in the morning then, I'm pretty knackered. Good night!

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centauri2002 wrote...

JiGsAw2453 wrote...

Haha... I kid :) I would love to read it :)

I could always post it up on my site, then put a link on here... But, What's the point? ;P just go ahead and post it up ;) I'm sure BioWare will love it ;L


I just read over the first part of the scene and now I'm concerned about putting it up. I know how some people can be and even though it's merely a kiss, it's descriptive and I don't want to offend anyone. Perhaps I'll just wait until I've finished the chapter and link it that way. >.>

I do have parts written that have nothing to do with that scene but, without context, they might be a bit confusing. 


Can't you send it to me in a message or email or something, don't you have a link to another website with the FanFic on? If you have you could send me the link :)

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centauri2002 wrote...

JiGsAw2453 wrote...

I think it would be fun :) Maybe the "physical" parts might be a bit strange for me to grasp... But then again I'm hardly going to go into as much detail as you ;) Lol...

The video is at 90% processing, It says 10 mins :)
Even I'm getting impatient, I want to know what you think of it :) hopefully it will make it onto your favourites :)


True, then in that case I'm sure you'd do fine. :)

I'm going to have to check it in the morning then, I'm pretty knackered. Good night!


What time is it where you are then?... Thought it was ealier where you are, it's 1:40am in England...

I'm probably going to go to sleep too :)

Have a good sleep :) don't get too caught up in your "Descriptive" thoughts ;) haha :P

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Here it is... My Liara tribute video for all you FemShep fans
Dedicated to Centauri2002 :) please subscribe and give a thumbs up if you like it, I will be most greatful :)

Check out our other Mass Effect videos too :)

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JiGsAw2453 wrote...

Here it is... My Liara tribute video for all you FemShep fans
Dedicated to Centauri2002 :) please subscribe and give a thumbs up if you like it, I will be most greatful :)

Check out our other Mass Effect videos too :)


Nice vid.  I like how you mixed in some ME1 theme music, like the bit that plays at the end.

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This minor text is just something I started writing on. It had not been planned or anything, I just started writing roughly under an hour ago. I have not checked for gramma mistakes and I apologies for it.

I know it is a maleshep/Liara fic but please be kind and give it a shot! :)

Also remember to leave comments.

*cut


Really liked it. Little slow to start with, you can trim it with focus on Shepard instead of surroundings. Also if you keep writing you can use cold as a metaphor for the nature of space but don't feel that you have to. Looking forward to your next piece Posted Image.

@centauri - if you're going to post an excerpt please give me some warning. My office doesn't have a cross breeze unless I keep the door open and I'd rather not have to uncerimoniously hurl clothing over the screen every time the dean, academic or student walks by.

Modifié par Fiddles_stix, 31 mars 2011 - 01:52 .


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jlb524 wrote...

JiGsAw2453 wrote...

Here it is... My Liara tribute video for all you FemShep fans
Dedicated to Centauri2002 :) please subscribe and give a thumbs up if you like it, I will be most greatful :)

Check out our other Mass Effect videos too :)


Nice vid.  I like how you mixed in some ME1 theme music, like the bit that plays at the end.


Thanks again :) There was the Menu theme from ME1, the Reflections theme (ME2 romance theme) from ME2... The one at the end was actually the music that plays when you first see the Normandy SR-2 in ME2... It's called "The Normandy Reborn" :)

Anyway glad you liked it :D!

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Here it is... My Liara tribute video for all you FemShep fans
Dedicated to Centauri2002 :) please subscribe and give a thumbs up if you like it, I will be most greatful :)

Check out our other Mass Effect videos too :)


I already gave a comment but just wondering; how long did it take you to make approx?

*Edit -  Vid is damn good Posted Image

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