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Liara T'Soni Character Discussion Thread *possible ME3 spoilers*


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I think we're attempting to debate over something that not even the writers or developers are completely sure of, to be honest. It's almost pointless, as asari genetics are something of a mess.

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Captain Iglo wrote...

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Slightly off-topic. I don't think Samara's three daughters are the only AY. Because would the asari goverment really have special prisons dedicated to only three prisoners?


dunno...maybe they also have some Asari Super Villains in that prison :D
Im sure there are more out there...hiding themself or hidden by asari government.


Asari supervillains? Sounds cool! :P

I think there are more AY out there. Most of them in prison, and perhaps a lucky few keeping a low profile and hiding.

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Lizardviking wrote...

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But she said to her knowledge, 3 only existed, including Morinth.


Does she? I think she said that only 3 are in existance today. But if they got prisons designs for AY, there's a good chance it's because there are more than 3 around.


Well we dont know how long those prisons already exist...maybe they've been created in a time with a lot more Ardat Yakshi around.

However this is getting to much off-Liara.

You guys think Aethyta always managed and wanted to keep track of Liara...maybe getting a job in that bar for the very reason to have an eye on her?
I think its quite suspicious that shes right next door. I mean the chances are high that Liara stood on the very same spot ordering a drink, where Shepard stood when he was talking to Aethyta

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The Asari have been around for quite a while, maybe they have mated so much with their own species, so there no longer are any traits left they want (All Asari are pretty hot). Therefore they start looking elsewhere.

Sorry off-topic

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Captain Iglo wrote...

Well we dont know how long those prisons already exist...maybe they've been created in a time with a lot more Ardat Yakshi around.

However this is getting to much off-Liara.

You guys think Aethyta always managed and wanted to keep track of Liara...maybe getting a job in that bar for the very reason to have an eye on her?
I think its quite suspicious that shes right next door. I mean the chances are high that Liara stood on the very same spot ordering a drink, where Shepard stood when he was talking to Aethyta


That's an interesting point about Aethyta. o: Although supposedly she's been working as a bartender for a long while. Granted, she never said anything about having worked at that particular bar for a long time.

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Lizardviking wrote...

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But she said to her knowledge, 3 only existed, including Morinth.


Does she? I think she said that only 3 are in existance today. But if they got prisons designs for AY, there's a good chance it's because there are more than 3 around.




Sorry, typo.

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Anyways, one thing I'm hoping for in ME3 is to finally ask Liara questions about herself. Because in ME1, and ME2 you never really get to ask her much about anything. You never ask her about her life growing up on Thessia, and what her home world is like. You never asked her what her life was like growing up at all. You never asked her about her relationship with her mother. You never asked her if she has any other family, or friends. You never asked her about how she started her information business, or the people she worked with. You never hear any interesting stories. etc.

So what would you want to ask her?

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Captain Iglo wrote...

You guys think Aethyta always managed and wanted to keep track of Liara...maybe getting a job in that bar for the very reason to have an eye on her?
I think its quite suspicious that shes right next door. I mean the chances are high that Liara stood on the very same spot ordering a drink, where Shepard stood when he was talking to Aethyta


Yes, I have always thought this.  I doubt it's a coincidence.

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in ME3 [...] to finally ask Liara questions about herself

I doubt that we'll see that, for two reasons:
Firstly these conversations have taken place in ME1 but weren't shown to the player. It would seem a bit odd to retcon that, and have Shepard ask Liara where she's from after being in a relationship for more than two years.
Secondly, it would be rather boring. Just because one is interested in the answer to these questions doesn't mean that these answers will make an exciting game. (Which is presumably why people never talk in movies)
Edit: Added quote for context.

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TMA LIVE wrote...

So what would you want to ask her?


Everything.

I would ask her things like, 'What did you do for fun when you were a child?'  or 'What was Benezia like?' or 'How was your time in college?  Was it unusual for you (amongst the asari) to attend college at the age you did?' or 'What was it like growing up as a pureblood?'

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So what would you want to ask her?


There's one question that Shepard should be able to ask of all the possible LIs in ME 3. I hope that BioWare will implement it.

Apart from that, it's true that there's too little information about Liara's past. But it's also true that it would be only logical that Liara and Shepard would have talked about that already before the events of ME 2. In other words, it's one of the things of which we just need to assume that they have happened. But at least some of it should be shown in the game, so that the players learn a bit more about Liara too.

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Lizardviking wrote...

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But she said to her knowledge, 3 only existed, including Morinth.


Does she? I think she said that only 3 are in existance today. But if they got prisons designs for AY, there's a good chance it's because there are more than 3 around.




We know that Ardat-Yakshi live in isolation (masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Ardat-Yakshi). Falere and Rila live in a "dark fortress" with only one communal communicator (masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow_Broker_Dossiers/Justicar_Samara). That isn't necessarily a prison.

The impression I got is that they live in exile, probably on some barely-inhabited planet far from population centres. Falere and Rila are there by their own chosing; their only other option is to be hunted like Morinth. I suppose that's something of a prison, but far from what we call 'jail'.

But that's just my guess.

Back on topic, I started to delve into fanfic, specifically Liara and/or FemShep. I'm reading Duty Calls (www.fanfiction.net/s/6043456/1/Duty_Calls) at the moment and enjoying it. Links to similar material are always appreciated ^_^

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ACC3SS wrote...
Links to similar material are always appreciated ^_^


This guy has some good ones.

And this one too.

There's a start, at least.

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I don't think asking her these questions wouldn't happen simply because, if new default ME3 players have a chance to romance her, then they'll want to get to know her. Thus, they'll need to learn more about her. With Ash, you learn about her time as a recruit, a story about her sister, her beliefs, her relationship with her family, her personal feelings about aliens and the Alliance, etc. You learn by talking. If you're not interested, then you don't need to ask.

And when it comes to Tali and Garrus, you still asked questions about their people, their race, a story about a girl, their friends, etc.

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jlb524 wrote...

ACC3SS wrote...
Links to similar material are always appreciated ^_^


This guy has some good ones.

And this one too.

There's a start, at least.


Thanks!
By the way, you're a fantastic writer. I'm on Chapter 4... I suspect by Chapter 9 I'll be worshiping the ground you walk on. :P

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From personal experience, don't read Kam Lam's if you need to be in a happy mood afterwords. Darkkkk darkkk stuff but very good.


On the topic of asking Liara about her past...

Unfortunately I think Liara's investigation questions will be very "in the now." With Earth being invaded and the reapers looming, I expect that much of her dialogue with Shepard will revolve around that. However it could be like Lair of the Shadow broker, where we find out neat little things like her birthday strewn in there. Then again, Bioware could have a very character focused plot in ME3, and could prove me all wrong. I hope this is the case.

Modifié par pacer90, 15 décembre 2010 - 11:34 .


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Well, with Earth burning, I doubt they'll stop to get married. But they're going to have romances happen in that game, so their has to be a situation that'll allow you to get to know people.

I'm just saying, they've only had a short amount of time to know each other. I imagine there's stuff to ask about her past. Especially stuff that involve her father.

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jlb524 wrote...

ACC3SS wrote...
Links to similar material are always appreciated ^_^


This guy has some good ones.

And this one too.

There's a start, at least.


I still freaking cry at the end of Between two Stars by Kane Lam

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jlb524 wrote...


Just started reading your fanfic. I like it. I feel you manage to have detail without it slowing down the pace.

Also Pacer90, any chance you will update your fanfic soon?

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rvayda141 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

ACC3SS wrote...
Links to similar material are always appreciated ^_^


This guy has some good ones.

And this one too.

There's a start, at least.


I still freaking cry at the end of Between two Stars by Kane Lam


The end of "The Distance Between Two Stars" gets me, too.  It's just not fair.  :crying:

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Lizardviking wrote...

jlb524 wrote...


Just started reading your fanfic. I like it. I feel you manage to have detail without it slowing down the pace.

Also Pacer90, any chance you will update your fanfic soon?



After Thursday. I'm in the middle of final exams and unfortunately I've had a terrible semester...

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So what do you think PS3 players will think of Liara, after only knowing her for 10 minutes in the comic? Do you think they'll be enough to hook up with her before they start playing Lair of the Shadow Broker?

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rvayda141 wrote...

I still freaking cry at the end of Between two Stars by Kane Lam


Yes, I cried like a baby at the end.  It's very good, though.

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So what do you think PS3 players will think of Liara, after only knowing her for 10 minutes in the comic? Do you think they'll be enough to hook up with her before they start playing Lair of the Shadow Broker?


No, I expect most PS3 players will randomly pick an ME1 LI and then romance someone in ME2. 

I think it will be impossible to form any type of emotional attachment to the ME1 LIs from a 15 minute intro.

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jlb524 wrote...

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So what do you think PS3 players will think of Liara, after only knowing her for 10 minutes in the comic? Do you think they'll be enough to hook up with her before they start playing Lair of the Shadow Broker?


No, I expect most PS3 players will randomly pick an ME1 LI and then romance someone in ME2. 

I think it will be impossible to form any type of emotional attachment to the ME1 LIs from a 15 minute intro.


I agree completely. Spending tens of hours talking to and adventuring with (in more ways than one :wub:) Liara T'Soni is what kept me faithful. I doubt any PS3 players would stay true to their multiple-choice love interest when 3+ other characters are vying for their attention.