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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

IGN Preview of Mass Effect 2 PS3

As the comic, which obviously depicts the events of ME1, is viewed by the player following the destruction of the SR-1, but before the character creation screen, Liara will always be the character that rushes to Shepard's side during the opening cutscene. Additionally, IGN have also published a few preview images of said comic.


Whilst the artwork is, as expected, quite horrible, I think the reimagining of Benezia's death scene is quite interesting. Following ME2's release, the choreography used in the series' cutscenes has improved quite dramatically, and I think that this is what would have occurred as Benezia lay dying had it been developed for ME2.

I do think that's an element of the original scene that could have been improved.

Almost looks better than the same scene from the game itself!

[Chief Martini]

I really hope Liara puts back on her ME1 outfit for ME3 as casual model, but I guess it isn't gonna happen.

I also like the ME1 clothing style, like armor on surface and normal clothes on ship. ME2 kinda ruined that.

Chud said that ME3 was gonna be more RPG again like ME1, so I'm guessing that buying armor/weapons/othercrap is coming back.

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Whilst the artwork is, as expected, quite horrible, I think the reimagining of Benezia's death scene is quite interesting. Following ME2's release, the choreography used in the series' cutscenes has improved quite dramatically, and I think that this is what would have occurred as Benezia lay dying had it been developed for ME2.

I do think that's an element of the original scene that could have been improved.

I agree.  Though, I don't see Liara clutching Benezia quite as 'dramatically' as shown in the comic, some more emotion from Liara in that scene would have been great.

[jlb524]

I would have to agree with you there. Which is why her bawling and clutching Benezia like a small child clutching her treasured teddy bear that had been ripped open is a bit odd. Liara's emotional displays tend to be more subtle.

[Annihilator27]

"Marriage,old age and a lot of little blue children."



A few years later:



"Daddy,daddy,tell us about when you saved the galaxy from the Reapers,then died,then came back to life and did it again!!!"



Not mine, Got it from a youtube clip.

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jlb524 wrote...

No, I liked the dress, I just don't want her to wear it again for a similar scene in the future. In ME2, I found it odd that every time I visited Liara at work she was wearing the same dress every freaking day XD

Yeah. I'm still wondering how she goes to the bathroom when she doesn't even have one in her apartment, or her office. I mean, do people on Illium just take a dump in a bucket, and then chuck it out the window?

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 16 décembre 2010 - 05:39 .

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annihilator27 wrote...

"Marriage,old age and a lot of little blue children."

A few years later:

"Daddy,daddy,tell us about when you saved the galaxy from the Reapers,then died,then came back to life and did it again!!!"

Not mine, Got it from a youtube clip.

D'awww!

As for Liara's emotional strength. She's always faced some sort of opposistion in her life, which seems to have strenghted her resolve. So while she does quickly display grief or sorrow from time to time (Benezia's death and LOTSB end), she's always able to get composure of herself fast again. Something I think is a good trait of the character.

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TMA LIVE wrote...
Yeah. I'm still wondering how she goes to
the bathroom when she doesn't even have one in her apartment, or her
office. I mean, do people on Illium just take a dump in a bucket, and
then chuck it out the window?

This is one of those parts where the players just have to use some suspension of disbelief. It's just like the SR-1, we never saw any toilets there either.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 16 décembre 2010 - 05:43 .

[Sparrow44]

I think Liara's depiction in the comic may well to be for the PS3 players that never really got to meet her by playing ME1 (which they can't do). I agree with others that her emotions are subtle and that deep down she is a strong person emotionally and doesn't let them interfere with her duties.

This is something that might not have shown through in the comic had the writers decided to keep Liara's emotions down in the same way as ME1 and may have decided to show the Benezia scene to let people know that Liara is an emotional person and does let it show from time to time, I guess you could say the execution could've been better.

[jlb524]

Yeah, the comic is going to over-dramatize everything.  I can't wait to see the rest! 

Lizardviking wrote...

This is one of those parts where the players just have to use some suspension of disbelief. It's just like the SR-1, we never saw any toilets there either.

Indeed.  I imagine Shepard had a private bathroom in the SR-1 captain's quarters even if it's not there in game.

Modifié par jlb524, 16 décembre 2010 - 05:48 .

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I agree.  Though, I don't see Liara clutching Benezia quite as 'dramatically' as shown in the comic, some more emotion from Liara in that scene would have been great.

Agreed. I think Liara is a character who is a little more restrained with her emotions, and I don't think she would be dramatically clutching Benezia and openly wailing in grief, as depicted in the comic book.

On a related note, how do you perceive Liara's emotional strength? Do you think it's admirable that she did not allow Benezia's death, and her resulting grief to compromise the mission? What about the fact that she rebuffs Shepard's insistence that the mission on Ilos would not fail, during the love scene? This shows that Liara is fully aware of the fact that they may have died during the mission, but was not looking for comfort at all. She wished to spend what could have been her final night alive with the woman she loves. She's a very emotionally strong and resilient person.

Maybe not, but it would've been nice to get more from her in ME1. Why was she estranged from her mother in the first place. And, how did she feel about losing any chance at reconciliation. She may have had plenty of time to come to terms with the separation over the years, but it had to be emotionally jarring to reconnect and lose Benezia in about the space of an hour.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Yeah, that looks bad. I thought Liara was in a tube tope dress for a second. And what's with the angry biotic face with her dead mother?

[Sparrow44]

SkyeHawk89 wrote...

(I hope we do see great things ahead. People probably won't listen to me, most people are crap/Ignore anyway. In general.)

I hope there be and something special for us in Mass Efdect 3, possible Mass Effect's. At the end of Mass Effect 3, I hope they let you do and wish like in Mass Effect 2. It be great if living, married and travel the stars with your LI kn the end. I think that be and awwe, doesn't shepard and Liara have few or more places? The two have a huge role in the conclusion. ^^

Yeah I think a good idea for romances in ME3 is for them to be there from the beginning of the game and progress until the game's end, ME1's buildup of romances before the finale was pretty good but they ended up repeating the formula in ME2. That way we get to see our character we romanced from ME1 or ME2 and progess from there rather than being forced to choose a new LI and start from scratch with entirely new LI's.

In ME3 I want to start of by visiting Liara and spend some time with her before things start to get ugly and without the chance to see her again.

Modifié par Sparroww, 16 décembre 2010 - 06:02 .

[jlb524]

scampermax wrote...

Maybe not, but it would've been nice to get more from her in ME1. Why was she estranged from her mother in the first place. And, how did she feel about losing any chance at reconciliation. She may have had plenty of time to come to terms with the separation over the years, but it had to be emotionally jarring to reconnect and lose Benezia in about the space of an hour.

I definitely agree with that.  The dialog with Liara, post-Benezia's death, should have been more involved.  Shepard should have had the opportunity to comfort her more as well.

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Captain Iglo wrote...

What i would love to see (for all squaddies in ME3) is that she at least wears casual outfit in base and armor outside...like in ME1.
I dont mind if the squaddies only get their 2-3 "armors" again...but I would love to see them in only casual outifts in non combat zones.

Having Liara in a an (updated) lab coat again would be cool
And then outside her (updated) LOTSB armor...and another unlockable armor later in game (maybe some special asari commando armor the moment the Asari join the war)

Well, I hope maybe, like in ME2, you can switch them into different colours or slightly different costumes. But i'd also like to see her in the lab coat again. Though one that's unique and ungraded, since she's a rich boss now.

[jlb524]

I wonder if Liara has any other surviving family (besides Aethyta)?



It seems as if she was an only child, as she never mentions siblings. I was thinking more along the lines of aunts, or sisters of Benezia. Regardless, it doesn't seem Liara is close to any of them, similar to how she drifted apart from Benezia too. I wonder if this 'drifting apart from your family' is an asari thing (due to their long life spans) or a Liara thing?

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jlb524 wrote...

I wonder if Liara has any other surviving family (besides Aethyta)?

It seems as if she was an only child, as she never mentions siblings. I was thinking more along the lines of aunts, or sisters of Benezia. Regardless, it doesn't seem Liara is close to any of them, similar to how she drifted apart from Benezia too. I wonder if this 'drifting apart from your family' is an asari thing (due to their long life spans) or a Liara thing?

I'd be surprised if she had no half sisters at lease. I mean for a thousand years Aethyta and B had no kids with anyone, except Liara?

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 16 décembre 2010 - 08:44 .

[jlb524]

True, they've both lived a combined 2 thousand years.



Benezia may have only been the mother of one asari (Liara), but she might have fathered pure bloods before (it seems she's not too worried about the stigma).



And we don't know if Aethyta had mothered any asari. She does say that she 'even had a pureblood daughter once' so it can be assumed that Liara is the only asari 'fathered' by Aethyta.

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TMA LIVE wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I wonder if Liara has any other surviving family (besides Aethyta)?

It seems as if she was an only child, as she never mentions siblings. I was thinking more along the lines of aunts, or sisters of Benezia. Regardless, it doesn't seem Liara is close to any of them, similar to how she drifted apart from Benezia too. I wonder if this 'drifting apart from your family' is an asari thing (due to their long life spans) or a Liara thing?

I'd be surprised if she had no half sisters at lease. I mean for a thousand years Aethyta and B had no kids with anyone, except the Liara?

I agree that it would be odd if Liara had no elder siblings. What I really found odd was that Benezia apparently had Liara during her matriarch stage. Judging by how long Shiala had been following Benezia, Benezia was at least 100 years into her matriarch stage when she had Liara.

[jlb524]

scampermax wrote...


I agree that it would be odd if Liara had no elder siblings. What I really found odd was that Benezia apparently had Liara during her matriarch stage. Judging by how long Shiala had been following Benezia, Benezia was at least 100 years into her matriarch stage when she had Liara.

Yes, that's a bit odd.  Unless Benezia was powerful and influential enough to have followers even at the end of her Matron stage, and wasn't quite a biological Matriarch until recently (shortly after giving birth to Liara).

Also, the codex doesn't seem to ever state that it's impossible for Matriarchs to become pregnant.  Though, I always assumed that only Matrons can give birth.

Strangeness all around.

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Smudboy's doing his Mass Effect Plot Analysis. I watching the part where Shepard picks up Liara.