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[Centauri2002]

Yes, it would be necessary to focus on the entire culture to have a chance of understanding how the Protheans became extinct. I'm sure Liara would have handled it similarly to how we handle studying human cultures that suddenly diminished. You need a view of the bigger picture in order to notice the smaller details. Unfortunately, this doesn't allow you to specialise in certain areas of that culture if you're working alone. That makes me wonder if Liara had to team up with anyone for specific questions she needed to answer.

That said, she had the luxury of a lot more time than human archaeologists do and she put fifty years of work into it, so she might have possibly been able to do her work alone. The analysis anyway.

Modifié par centauri2002, 10 avril 2011 - 07:08 .

[Robhuzz]

JiGsAw2453 wrote...

Anyone wonder if Cerberus is trying to capture Shepard and use her as a bargaining chip to the reapers? Maybe in return the reapers will leave the rest of humanity alive?

Cerberus is one of the only organisations actually fully aware of what the reapers are and are going to do. As such, they must realise there is no bargaining with the reapers. Reapers arrive, other races die or get subjegated. No exceptions.

I really am most curious as to the reason for Cerberus being after Shepard in ME3. As long as Cerberus leaves Liara out of this, or TIM will be getting a real closeup of that star he's always sitting in front.

@centauri

Nice job with the Liara pictures. More blue = good:D

Modifié par Robhuzz, 10 avril 2011 - 07:10 .

[Centauri2002]

 We all need a little more blue in our lives. 

[IndigoWolfe]

centauri2002 wrote...

 We all need a little more blue in our lives. 

With a dash of black.

[emmanuelsieyes]

jlb524 wrote...

As for what Liara has studied, all we know is that her interests lie with the Prothean extinction question. It's possible that she was familiar with their industry but I don't think this was her sole focus. It seems as if her Ph.D. work and subsequent papers focused on developing a theory that would explain the sudden disappearance of such an advanced race as the Protheans. Thus, I think she studied anything in regards to the Prothean pre-extinction era....industry would be one part of that.

Also, I believe Therum was a human mining colony and it appears the miners found an old Prothean substructure within one of the mines and then Liara's archaeological team investigated. Therum is actually littered with Prothan ruins, according to the codex. Now I wonder why a team headed by an asari was given rights to study them? Unless they've already been picked over by human lead teams...I don't know.

Liara's ultimate goal is to figure out what happened to the Protheans. However, to do that, she's got to try and find the ruins first. Also, in order to understand why they went extinct, Liara will need at least some background information on how Prothean society is organized.

Searching for Prothean industry is a method to systematically search for Prothean ruins. The pollution produced by eezo production is a quick way to detect whether Protheans have developed the area. Industry is capital intensive enough that there would be mining companies and government regulators on-site, so that would give her leads to follow to find more clues about what happened.

The mining rights to Therum are currently owned by human investors. However, they don't necessarily own the whole planet - mining rights only cover the area of the actual mineral deposit. It's likely that the Prothean ruins were not included in the concessions, because of scholarly interest, and because old ruins would be a pain to deal with - structurally unstable, potential hazmats laying around after 50,000 years of neglect.

I'm not trying to force this theory down anyone's throat. I think that her first place to look would be industry for two reasons: the facilities would be in communication with major government and corporate interests. Furthermore (this is the really big part) if Liara can recover the highly advanced Prothean eezo refining processes (remember, they think the Protheans built the mass relays, they would need immense amounts of eezo to do so), that would be a major win for the Asari economy. Liara needs grant money to do this research, and the easiest way to get that is to say 'well, we can recover this eezo tech which will make the Asari economy more efficient'. As a matter of fact, one of the major disagreements (that I'm writing) between Liara and Benezia has to do with funding for a major survey of potential eezo refineries.

I see Liara as doing all of her own analysis. However, she can't do everything alone. For instance, she'll need to outsource analysis of Prothean computer equipment. I envision Liara discovering some electronics, then having them sent out so they can be analyzed by electronics experts. By the same token, if she's looking for contamination from eezo activities, she would outsource that to a lab equipped with spectrophotometers, and a nuclear reactor (for neutron activation analysis).

Modifié par emmanuelsieyes, 10 avril 2011 - 07:54 .

[JiGsAw2453]

 Some more blue...



And shes smiling!

Her eyes look awesome!

Modifié par JiGsAw2453, 10 avril 2011 - 09:33 .

[mmmu]

Nice picture  

[IndigoWolfe]

JiGsAw2453 wrote...

 Some more blue...



And shes smiling!

Her eyes look awesome!

Ahhh... :wub:

I wonder if Liara and the T'soni name will be involved with gaining the loyalty of the asari?

In fact, I can imagine her being the Shadow Broker might help with getting any of the various races to help you.

Modifié par IndigoWolfe, 10 avril 2011 - 10:56 .

[JiGsAw2453]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

I wonder if Liara and the T'soni name will be involved with gaining the loyalty of the asari?

In fact, I can imagine her being the Shadow Broker might help with getting any of the various races to help you.

Thats a good idea!

I can imagine she has contacts with various people with power amongst many species.

[IndigoWolfe]

JiGsAw2453 wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

I wonder if Liara and the T'soni name will be involved with gaining the loyalty of the asari?

In fact, I can imagine her being the Shadow Broker might help with getting any of the various races to help you.

Thats a good idea!

I can imagine she has contacts with various people with power amongst many species.

And the T'soni name may still have some weight in asari political circles. Benezia was an influential figure, it would stand to reason that Liara might have a base on which to extend her influence into asari politics.

[Robhuzz]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

JiGsAw2453 wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

I wonder if Liara and the T'soni name will be involved with gaining the loyalty of the asari?

In fact, I can imagine her being the Shadow Broker might help with getting any of the various races to help you.

Thats a good idea!

I can imagine she has contacts with various people with power amongst many species.

And the T'soni name may still have some weight in asari political circles. Benezia was an influential figure, it would stand to reason that Liara might have a base on which to extend her influence into asari politics.

And if that doesn't help, she can always resort to blackmailing. Liara said the Shadow Broker's archives had secrets that could cause a war in 10 minutes. Threaten to expose those secrets if they don't help against the reapers should be leverage enough.

@Jigsaw

Beautiful picture. Once you go blue you'll never want to go back!

Modifié par Robhuzz, 11 avril 2011 - 05:38 .

[Centauri2002]

We don't have time to go running around the galaxy doing errands in exchange for loyalty. Although I'm sure that'll slip into the game somehow. >.>

I'm sure there's going to be a lot more options than the Shadow Broker route. I don't see BioWare wanting to put too much focus on Liara. You've met a lot of people over the course of two games so I'm sure you'll be calling in favours all over the galaxy. It would be easier to have Liara pull some strings but I don't see it happening in Mass Effect 3 very often.

[CannotCompute]

I feel a bit sorry for you guys. She looks kind of ugly in that GI article.

Could just be that one pic and angry look ofcourse.

Modifié par CannotCompute, 11 avril 2011 - 09:09 .

[mmmu]

CannotCompute wrote...

I feel a bit sorry for you guys. She looks kind of ugly in that GI article.

Hardly a reason to feel sorry about. It looks to be the same model they already fixed for LotSB, just the facial expression is a bit awkward in the GI article. So hush!

Modifié par mmmu, 11 avril 2011 - 09:13 .

[Centauri2002]

Why feel sorry for us? o_0

It's her SrsFace™. She's facing up to the Reapers. No time to check the mirror to see if her expression looks good for the promo shots. Unlike Ashley, who apparently has the time to hit the beauty salon whilst the Reapers attack Earth. >.>

Modifié par centauri2002, 11 avril 2011 - 09:14 .

[CannotCompute]

^ All valid points

[Centauri2002]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

You don't think there's an opportunity there to develop the Pargon/Renegade option in relation to an LI? Having to choose between time apart and time together but at the cost of underhanded acts?

But I see your point, fetch quests are boring after the first two. 

I think there's opportunity, yes. But I think BioWare will try to balance the focus in the game. They won't have you running to Liara all the time to complete your objectives. You'll be going all over the galaxy, meeting with various contacts. I doubt they'll want Liara to seem more important than some of the other squad members... even though she is. 

On an unrelated note: I just took some snaps of Liara from the Redemption comic to spruce up the thread a bit. I'll interject them from time to time. 

Here's a taster... I'm not sure how I feel about the artwork in the comic sometimes. It seems somewhat inconsistent and Liara doesn't always look like... Liara. But it was a fun read anyway.

Modifié par centauri2002, 11 avril 2011 - 09:57 .

[Centauri2002]

This one's for Fiddles...



"Who says I can't wear orange?"

[Centauri2002]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

I swear Centauri if I suddenly start liking the colour orange I am blaming you! Sad but still not as bad as the construction worker outfit T_T

I shall keep posting these throughout the thread until you do like it. >:3

True, the construction worker outfit took the biscuit, for sure. Hmm, I wonder if I can alter these pictures to make it a DayGlo Orange... 

[Centauri2002]

But torturing you is more fun. >:3

I don't particularly like her armour there. It's okay, but I don't find it particularly flattering. Perhaps that has something to do with the colour, but I'm more inclined to say it's the style. It just looks... bland.

And Liara is not bland!

[pacer90]

TheMarshal wrote...

He's insinuating a... swift removal from ME3 for Liara... Which would be silly, given the plot armor she had in the rest of the series.

On another note, almost done with the first draft of Chapter 5! Hoping to wrap it up tomorrow and dive right in to Chapter 6! (Revisions can come later >.>)

Excellenttt....


Although Marshall I am disappointed you didn't comment on my C++ joke a few pages back.