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[MGIII]

centauri2002 wrote...

MGIII wrote...

Has there been any serious analysis of Liara's characterization, growth, and role in the Mass Effect series? Y'know, outside of fanboyish adoration.

Of course there has. In this thread and elsewhere. And you're assuming only males are fans there. >.>

Pruning through this thread page for page seems unwieldly. I would rather links, or a new discussion.

Also, fanboy is a gender neutral term. Like mankind.

[jlb524]

jtav wrote...

I have my idea for the twist as well...

Here's a question: why doesn't Liara save Shepard from the trial? Or is that beyond her power?

She may be doing something small to help, but remember that the Shadow Broker is very subtle in their goings about and I think Liara has to be careful not to make it too obvious that the Shadow Broker wants Shepard exonerated...that may also compromise her identity as it may seem odd to some that the Shadow Broker is throwing in a lot of resources to aid Shepard (who most see as a crazy war criminal).

[jlb524]

MGIII wrote...

Pruning through this thread page for page seems unwieldly. I would rather links, or a new discussion.

Also, fanboy is a gender neutral term. Like mankind.

There are some discussion topics listed in the OP.  I thought this thread was always pretty good as far as the ratio of discussion to fanboy/fangirl adoration goes

[TheMarshal]

It's certainly not as bad as some threads that I've seen... >.>

[Centauri2002]

MGIII wrote...

Pruning through this thread page for page seems unwieldly. I would rather links, or a new discussion.

Also, fanboy is a gender neutral term. Like mankind.

Feel free to start a new discussion.

I always thought the gender neutral term was "fan".  As others have said, this thread has always been pretty good for discussion/debate regarding characters and lore. We've had some pretty good points made on asari culture, for example.

Chime in with questions whenever you'd like. ^^

[MGIII]

centauri2002 wrote...

MGIII wrote...

Pruning through this thread page for page seems unwieldly. I would rather links, or a new discussion.

Also, fanboy is a gender neutral term. Like mankind.

Feel free to start a new discussion.

I always thought the gender neutral term was "fan".  As others have said, this thread has always been pretty good for discussion/debate regarding characters and lore. We've had some pretty good points made on asari culture, for example.

Chime in with questions whenever you'd like. ^^

Ah, you're right. My facilities had escaped me for the moment.

I was thinking of writing an essay/analysis of sorts. I'll post it if I ever get around to it.

[Hyper_gateway]

The very first fanart I made, it is not a masterpiece at all, but still hope someone will like it. Here's my femshep and her LI Liara ::happy:

[img]http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/117/d/b/original_draw_by_myself_by_hypergateway-d3f27vv.jpg[/img]

Modifié par Hyper_gateway, 28 avril 2011 - 09:12 .

[Robhuzz]

jlb524 wrote...

jtav wrote...

I have my idea for the twist as well...

Here's a question: why doesn't Liara save Shepard from the trial? Or is that beyond her power?

She may be doing something small to help, but remember that the Shadow Broker is very subtle in their goings about and I think Liara has to be careful not to make it too obvious that the Shadow Broker wants Shepard exonerated...that may also compromise her identity as it may seem odd to some that the Shadow Broker is throwing in a lot of resources to aid Shepard (who most see as a crazy war criminal).

She might still throw in a lot of resources to aid shepard, by having agents scrub the web or whatever for evidence of Shepard's actions and either removing the evidence or manipulating it to be in Shepard's favour. She could even be doing this to 'Ease the tension between humans and batarians' because it would be 'bad for business' if they got dragged into a big war. She need not show that she's doing it all for Shepard instead.

Offtopic: I would love to see the humans destroy the batarians in a big war however, maybe a nice idea for ME4. Humans and Batarians fighting a war while Shepard and Liara are on an amazingly long honeymoon:)

[Centauri2002]

Hyper_gateway wrote...

The very first fanart I made, it is not a masterpiece at all, but still hope someone will like it. Here's my femshep and her LI Liara ::happy:

*snip*

Very nice! Where did LIara get the book from, I wonder. Must be worth a fortune. >.>

Is there, perhaps, a larger version? I'd like to see the details on the characters a little better.

Modifié par centauri2002, 28 avril 2011 - 09:03 .

[Hyper_gateway]

centauri2002 wrote...

Hyper_gateway wrote...

The very first fanart I made, it is not a masterpiece at all, but still hope someone will like it. Here's my femshep and her LI Liara ::happy:

*snip*

Very nice! Where did LIara get the book from, I wonder. Must be worth a fortune. >.>

Is there, perhaps, a larger version? I'd like to see the details on the characters a little better.

Thanks
Larger version? let me upload it then. Right click it then choose "view the imagine", then you will see the original size of it.

That book is my Femshep personal notebook which have tons of comments/feeling about matters happened around her.

Modifié par Hyper_gateway, 28 avril 2011 - 09:13 .

[Centauri2002]

Hyper_gateway wrote...

Thanks
Larger version? let me upload it then. Right click it then choose "view the imagine", then you will see the original size of it.

That book is my Femshep personal notebook which have tons of comments/feeling about matters happened around her.

Yep, I loaded up the image that way. I was wondering if there was anything a bit larger than that.

Aww, sounds like there's a story there! Depending on if your Shepard is paragon or renegade, I can imagine that being quite the touching read for Liara. :3

[IndigoWolfe]

To dispel any doubts anyone might have, Casey Hudson officially confirmed Liara as a major character in Mass Effect 3!

Woo! Quick, someone find appropriate pics/gif!

[Pineappletree]

Hehe, was about to post the same....

Link for the interested: www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/04/28/casey-hudson-interview-mass-effect-3.aspx

[Centauri2002]

Great to have it confirmed. I'll take a look at the interview later.

[Robhuzz]

 Finally Liara gets the major role she deserved. And what's more "Relationships, the krogan, geth, all this will come to a spectacular conclusion"
Can we conclude from this there WILL actually be a 'happily ever after' ending for Shepard and Liara? I'd say yes.

[TheMarshal]

I would probably prefer the real 'happily ever after' ending to be a DLC in the ~$15 range, so they can spent plenty of time doing it right without detracting from the rest of ME3.

[Centauri2002]

I agree with you Marshal. The main game should concentrate on the epic conclusion to the story arc. The relationships were never really an integral part of that so it'd seem odd to take time away from it to make that so now. However, a DLC with a decent length would suit it perfectly.

[Robhuzz]

TheMarshal wrote...

I would probably prefer the real 'happily ever after' ending to be a DLC in the ~$15 range, so they can spent plenty of time doing it right without detracting from the rest of ME3.

I'd definitely be prepared to buy a 1600 BW point 'Closing DLC' that takes place after the defeat of the reapers. Spending time with your LI, doing some small missions (possibly attending a funeral of an important character, I'm sure some of them will not survive) and ultimately finish it with a true happily ever after ending (Bondmate ceremony of course).

[mmmu]

Liara a major character in ME3   
AH YESSSS

[Robhuzz]

I actually hope Liara won't be a squadmember through the entire game. That would render most party members obsolete. I really want to work more with Legion cause we only had him for a short time in ME2. Obviously during my first playthrough Liara will ALWAYS be in my party and with Legion in the other slot... what do I do with all others?

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Robhuzz wrote...

I actually hope Liara won't be a squadmember through the entire game. That would render most party members obsolete. I really want to work more with Legion cause we only had him for a short time in ME2. Obviously during my first playthrough Liara will ALWAYS be in my party and with Legion in the other slot... what do I do with all others?

There is apparantly a Quarian vs Geth subplot in ME3. I really do not think that Legion will be a squadmate (as sad as that sounds).

As for my own squad combination. I am going to juggle between Liara/Kaidan or Liara/Garrus. Mostly for nostalgia and because I think it makes sense to have 2 ME1 squaddies with in the final chapter.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 28 avril 2011 - 07:47 .

[Robhuzz]

Lizardviking wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

I actually hope Liara won't be a squadmember through the entire game. That would render most party members obsolete. I really want to work more with Legion cause we only had him for a short time in ME2. Obviously during my first playthrough Liara will ALWAYS be in my party and with Legion in the other slot... what do I do with all others?

There is apparantly a Quarian vs Geth subplot in ME3. I really do not think that Legion will be a squadmate (as sad as that sounds).

As for my own squad combination. I am going to juggle between Liara/Kaidan or Liara/Garrus. Mostly for nostalgia and because I think it makes sense to have 2 ME1 squaddies with in the final chapter.

Bah you're right. I read wrongly that Legion was to be a ME3 squadmate. He's confirmed to appear but it's currently unknown if he's a squadmate or not. Well a quarian vs geth subplot would be a pretty big struggle. And at the most oppertune time. Ahh well, I suppose the quarians will stop their foolish endeavor once the reapers are on to them.

Think I might stick to Liara/Garrus or Liara/Ashley but there's probably a bunch of squadmembers to choose from, although I doubt anyone will be cooler than Garrus and I'm sure none will be cuter than Liara.