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Liara T'Soni Character Discussion Thread *possible ME3 spoilers*


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TheMarshal wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

As for a Liara/Feron pairing for a non-romanced Liara, I'm still not buying it. Whether you romance her or not, it seems like she only has eyes for Shepard. My opinion is based mostly on her going through so much to get Shepard's body back. the "I couldn't let you go" line, and the "you're back, I have everything I want" dialogue at the end of LotSB.


Agreed.  Liara is so (relatively) young that I doubt she'd be actively seeking out romantic entanglements.  Shepard was definitely the exception to the rule.  Even if Shep never returned her affections, I highly doubt she'd be so quick to jump into the dating game, especially for someone she only knew for a matter of weeks (at most).

That said, if Bioware wants to make her romance Feron if she and Shepard never got together, more power to them.  I'm sure as hell never gonna see it, but if people want it, who am I to deny them?


I kind of forgot all about that. Typical asari don't feel like settling down with a partner until their matron stage. Question: Does this also mean most asari won't feel any REAL romantic feelings throughout their maiden stage, but rather this happens early in the matron stage? I'd like to compare it to  humans were most people don't start to experience feelings for another until they're what? anywhere from 10 - 14 years old?

In this case, Marshal, you are definitely right in that Liara wasn't interested in romantic involvement but Shepard was her once exception. And with Shepard gone she'd probably revert to her old 'not interested in romance' attitude until she's hit the matron stage, or found someone just like Shepard (suffice to say this won't happen:P)

@ LV - That was an ambiguous line at best. Though, granted, asking a non-romance Liara if she and Feron are "...", her own answer is somewhat vague. She says something to the effect of "it would be wrong of me to take advantage of that", when referring to all that he's gone through in the past two years.

I don't know that I'd consider that to be 'proof' that she has 'feelings' for Feron, but... ::shrug::


True, I posted a reply about this very subject just a few posts above yours, see if you think there's any truth to my story?;)

Modifié par Robhuzz, 29 avril 2011 - 05:44 .


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If you don't romance her, it would be nice if she falls in love with someone else. Liara is such a workaholic, she needs someone who pulls her away from work.

But I don't think Liara and Feron could be more then friends. Could she ever trust him?

If Liara gets a LI in my Sheploo playthrough, it should be someone awesome.
Like Garrus!

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TheMarshal wrote...

@ LV - That was an ambiguous line at best. Though, granted, asking a non-romance Liara if she and Feron are "...", her own answer is somewhat vague. She says something to the effect of "it would be wrong of me to take advantage of that", when referring to all that he's gone through in the past two years.

I don't know that I'd consider that to be 'proof' that she has 'feelings' for Feron, but... ::shrug::


It is a vague answer. But i would not put it past Bioware to promote Feron/Liara. If only in some sort of vain attempt to force me (can't really speak for others) to accept the Redemptions comic's existance.

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A strong friendship is all she needs to give her that break in her workaholic nature. She goes to the Normandy for drinks with Shepard when they're only friends so I imagine another close friend like that would do her well. Someone doesn't need to be paired off to be happy, after all. ;)

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@Robhuzz - Huh, I completely missed that post! I agree wholeheartedly.

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Re Liara+Garrus: Yes, make sure to pair all the spares. Can't have Liara fall in love with somebody we haven't met yet

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 29 avril 2011 - 06:06 .


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AlexMBrennan wrote...

Liara+Garrusyet


I don't know. I cannot really imagine Garrus and Liara together, they don't even seem to be friends (they seem more like respected co-workers). I would say Liara/Kaidan, Liara/Miranda or Liara/Asari.

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Technically, since recruiting Garrus is optional in ME1, it's possible to do a play through without them ever meeting at all.

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AlexMBrennan wrote...

Technically, since recruiting Garrus is optional in ME1, it's possible to do a play through without them ever meeting at all.


I would say ME2 more or less made not recruiting Garrus non-canon.

But even then, Liara's dynamic with Garrus were not that special.

[CITADEL PUBLIC ELEVATOR]
Garrus: Liara. Your biotic abilities are impressive, do all Asari have such skill?
Liara: All Asari are natural biotics, but some do not train them. I however have trained my skills for years.
Garrus: ....
Liara: ......
[akward silence continues]

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I think Liara/Feron is adorable and my actual preferred pairing will never happen in a million years, sp why not?


I mich rather have Liara be with another Asari (credit for the idea goes to someone else here in this thread, think it was LET). Much more fitting that she throws off the pureblood stigma, and perhaps she might be able to change Asari society and remove the prejudice that is against them.

Much rather have that than FailFeron! :P

But to be serious. Mac Walters did say that Liara might have struggled with "her feelings for the roguish Drell" when he answered the question regarding Liara's behavior on Illium. So I guess that Bioware wants to promote Feron/Liara  in the future:sick:.


I personally wouldn't like Liara paring with another asari, since I see that as uninspired. Like wanting Garrus to date a Turian. Sure, you'd get the pure blood angle, but again, I consider it uninspired since you're just retelling a prejustice story. While I consider something like Femshep/Liara would be more inspired, since it's about a character escaping prejustice by dating someone from another race, and can have a family. And an even more inspire might be something from a different race that isn't human.

As for Feron, I think they'd make a good starting couple. Whether they stay together, who knows.

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It's not the race that makes a pairing inspiring, it's the characters. Bring in an asari who has something unique and compelling about them, and you've got something Liara might take interest in. Throw in something to add a little conflict - they could be a justicar, a member of a family opposed to Benezia, etc - and you've got yourself some drama too.

Of course, this is unimportant to me because Liara and Shepard are canon in my play throughs and I don't really like imagining her with other people. >.>

Modifié par centauri2002, 29 avril 2011 - 06:43 .


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Heck, if I had my way, she and Miranda would run off together, but that's not going to happen.

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Someone in this thread wrote a short story about Liara ~300+ years post-Shepard's death, and she's bondmates with a quarian. It was an interesting idea.

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jtav wrote...

Heck, if I had my way, she and Miranda would run off together, but that's not going to happen.


Just because it doesn't happen in the game, doesn't mean it can't happen post-ME3. ;)

I'm much more open to a Miranda/Liara pairing than a Feron/Liara pairing. >.>

Modifié par centauri2002, 29 avril 2011 - 06:36 .


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I really like Liara/other asari....possibly Shiala.

This is my head-canon pairing post-Shepard.

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jlb524 wrote...

I really like Liara/other asari....possibly Shiala.

This is my head-canon pairing post-Shepard.


I don't think a Liara/ other asari post Shepard pairing is too likely. For one, Liara seemed rather sad when she talked about her father being another asari, making her a pureblood. I don't believe Liara would ever hook up with an asari, as to who or what she will hook up with (after shepard of course)... I have no idea.

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Robhuzz wrote...

I don't think a Liara/ other asari post Shepard pairing is too likely. For one, Liara seemed rather sad when she talked about her father being another asari, making her a pureblood. I don't believe Liara would ever hook up with an asari, as to who or what she will hook up with (after shepard of course)... I have no idea.


I interpret it as her being saddened over the injustice of how those pairings are treated and that this is the reason she never knew her other parent.  I don't see this stopping her from engaging in a relationship with another asari or even procreating with one.  She's headstrong and isn't about to let asari society tell her how she can live and love.

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jtav wrote...

Heck, if I had my way, she and Miranda would run off together, but that's not going to happen.


Heck, I might not agree with that paring, but it does have it's connections and unique bits. Miranda not being able to bare children, nor ever be considered normal, while dating someone that deals with both issues.

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jlb524 wrote...

I really like Liara/other asari....possibly Shiala.

This is my head-canon pairing post-Shepard.


Shiala was one of her mother's disciples, so some sister thing might come in play. Weirdness....
Also, Shiala probed Shepard's mind as well. More weirdness.

Nah.... plenty of other Asari for Liara

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Robhuzz wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I really like Liara/other asari....possibly Shiala.

This is my head-canon pairing post-Shepard.


I don't think a Liara/ other asari post Shepard pairing is too likely. For one, Liara seemed rather sad when she talked about her father being another asari, making her a pureblood. I don't believe Liara would ever hook up with an asari, as to who or what she will hook up with (after shepard of course)... I have no idea.


I don't think Liara is above dating another asari, or sees it as wrong. I honestly don't see Liara giving a **** about that.

I just don't think it's unique for her to just default to another asari, or just a female human. I'd rather something more outside the box. Like a Quarian, or a Turian, to show that great aspect of her character, which is loving you for who you are, and not what you are.

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jwalker wrote...
Shiala was one of her mother's disciples, so some sister thing might come in play. Weirdness....


They might not have been close.  I kind of doubt Liara was close to any of her mother's disciples.

jwalker wrote...
Also, Shiala probed Shepard's mind as well. More weirdness.


It seemed as if Shiala didn't take anything from Shepard's mind, or read her memories, but just implanted the Cipher.  I would think that makes it less weird.

jwalker wrote...
Nah.... plenty of other Asari for Liara


Also true...I could create a OC for her ^_^

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jwalker wrote...

Shiala probed Shepard's mind as well. More weirdness.


Shepard roling playing?

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TMA LIVE wrote...

I just don't think it's unique for her to just default to another asari, or just a female human. I'd rather something more outside the box. Like a Quarian, or a Turian, to show that great aspect of her character, which is loving you for who you are, and not what you are.


However, having her date another asari in spite of the huge social stigma surrounding it would be the best way to depict this.

To an asari, a quarian or turian isn't "outside the box"...it's quite typical.  Dating another asari is a big deal and is "rebellious" and "outside the box".

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jlb524 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

I just don't think it's unique for her to just default to another asari, or just a female human. I'd rather something more outside the box. Like a Quarian, or a Turian, to show that great aspect of her character, which is loving you for who you are, and not what you are.


However, having her date another asari in spite of the huge social stigma surrounding it would be the best way to depict this.

To an asari, a quarian or turian isn't "outside the box"...it's quite typical.  Dating another asari is a big deal and is "rebellious" and "outside the box".


By not being outside the box, I mean it's something people would think first. Like Liara dating another human. While I don't think I'll find much "Liara and Wrex" fan fiction. Something like that I consider "Outside the box".

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By not being outside the box, I mean it's something people would think first. Like Liara dating another human. While I don't think I'll find much "Liara and Wrex" fan fiction. Something like that I consider "Outside the box".


You're speaking from a meta-perspective and personal aesthetics (which is subjective). 

In game, it's not all that unique...in fact, we hardly see asari with other asari or human women, so pairing up Liara with a turian is hardly unique or interesting within the lore.