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[Centauri2002]

Say, Shepard, what would you prefer to come back to after surviving against all odds?



Let me think about that for just one--



Yeah, I thought so.

[Robhuzz]

Nice one centauri, but why add a renegade shepard + facial scarring, a paragon or character without facial scarring would've been better methinks...

I think that's a good choice, but Liara calling Cerberus and TIM bastards is so satisfying!

When exactly does she call Cerberus and TIM bastards? I've went through the pre SM dialogue several times and I think I chose every possibly dialogue choice back then. Well, apart from 'Death most likely' for obvious reasons.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 03 mai 2011 - 04:49 .

[kumquats]

After Liara asks you: "How are you doing Shepard?"
Klick on the option: "It was a damn setup."
Enjoy

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Paula Deen wrote...
I actually like doing it Pre-SM. The main reason being all the potential drama and angst for the fact that Shepard is heading on a suicide mission and their relationship has to cope with THAT, too. It also gives Shepard a strong will to make it back against all the odds. And then the (sadly off-screen) joy when she finds out he's still alive and made it back.

Post-SM for me. Makes most sense that Liara and Shepard spends a good deal of time away from each other after Illium. Thereby both Liara and Shepard have spend some time just cooling off, and both also regretting what they said and how they acted against the other. 

It's also more emotional powerful when you think that even if Shepard survives the suicide mission (or the trilogy in general) there won't much of a happy ending. 

InfoGuy101 wrote...

I wonder how Liara will react if she
and Shepard have to go to Thessia to get help from the Asari because if I
remember correctly from what she said in ME1 people where expecting a
lot from her because she was the daughter of Benezia and she can't
really come out and say "oh by the way I'm the Shadow Broker now". Some
might still think she's under performed considering her mothers standing
is there society.

I doubt most Asari on Thessia will listen to her, in the start atleast.
Not because she went off and did her own thing. But because she is the
daughter of a traitor. I doubt her shady buisness on Illium did anything
to help clear the T'soni name. Perhaps her family name will be
vindicated due to the events of ME3?

Modifié par Lizardviking, 03 mai 2011 - 05:58 .

[Robhuzz]

Lizardviking wrote...

I doubt most Asari on Thessia will listen to her, in the start atleast.
Not because she went off and did her own thing. But because she is the
daughter of a traitor. I doubt her shady buisness on Illium did anything
to help clear the T'soni name. Perhaps her family name will be
vindicated due to the events of ME3?

I doubt it will matter too much any more. After ME3 what's left of the citadel race worlds (and probably non citadel races' worlds as well will be in complete ruin for years to come. Also, BioWare announced it won't be a simple 'save the universe, get a medal' ending. Most likely no one will even want to believe these sentient warships that are attacking are actually the reapers shepard has been warning them about.

After Liara asks you: "How are you doing Shepard?"
Klick on the option: "It was a damn setup."
Enjoy 

Thanks!

Modifié par Robhuzz, 03 mai 2011 - 06:13 .

[kumquats]

Liara can't help on Thessia as herself, but she can as the Shadow Broker.
Shepard will need a Matriach for the Asari goverment, someone who will speak for her cause and that should be Aethyta.

I don't think there will be a normal father-daughter reunion, more like a mutual goal to convince the Asaris that they have to fight against the Reapers.

[Robhuzz]

kumquats wrote...

Liara can't help on Thessia as herself, but she can as the Shadow Broker.
Shepard will need a Matriach for the Asari goverment, someone who will speak for her cause and that should be Aethyta.

I don't think there will be a normal father-daughter reunion, more like a mutual goal to convince the Asaris that they have to fight against the Reapers.

Seems everyone is somehow thinking we're simply going to these planets to ask for help. Problem here is... every planet is under attack so 1. They need the reapers dealt with before they'll even think of sending aid and 2. In the first reaper attack on the planet it's most likely their entire fleet was destroyed. Question: Who are they going to send? 

Anyways that was offtopic. I'm hoping (foolishly but still) that certain ME1 assignments could have a big impact on ME3. For example the turians.

Shepard travels to palavan to talk to the turian leaders about sending aid, obviously they refuse but after a lot of bickering and Shepard helping them with some tasks, they finally come around but they're still not certain. That's when he enters, General Septimus, he vouches for Shepard and tips the balance in your favour (But of course only if you helped him with Sha'ira in ME1)

For most races though, I think we might have need of Liara's darker side again. Blackmailing entire races with Shadow Broker information anyone? 

Apart from Aethyta, Samara could help. The asari put great weight in the decisions, claims and witness of Justicars Samara may also be near Matriarch age.

Let's not forget that an asari matriarch is as rare as elderly people on earth. One asari matriarch (even one as respected as samara) isn't going to change the opinions of 10.000 other asari matriarchs...

Modifié par Robhuzz, 03 mai 2011 - 06:45 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

yorkj86 wrote...

Apart from Aethyta, Samara could help. The asari put great weight in the decisions, claims and witness of Justicars Samara may also be near Matriarch age.

I have my own personal theory that Samara will be the one to swoop in and put in a good word (and a stare) for Shepard when he tries to convince the Asari to help. Granted I don't know if that is the appropiate thread to talk about it in.

[kumquats]

They attacking everyone at the same time?
Oh uh, I didn't know that.

I forgot about Samara, I had to 'kill' her during the SM mission.
So my Shepard will have to save Thessia with Asari Commandos, Rachnis, Geth and maybe the Flotilla will join the fight.

Or Liara finds whatever the Protheans hid. I hope it's a big gun.

[Robhuzz]

yorkj86 wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

Let's not forget that an asari matriarch is as rare as elderly people on earth. One asari matriarch (even one as respected as samara) isn't going to change the opinions of 10.000 other asari matriarchs...

Matriarchs only sway public opinion.  They're not actual politicians.  They don't have actual political power.  While you're right, who knows what influence Samara could have over Matriarchs.  Besides, more help is better than no help, or less help.

And in the end, I wouldn't be surprised if we received NO help from the other council races. I'd actually rather like that idea. Who needs them anyway, with the geth, quarians, rachni and krogan as (potential) allies as well as the piece of information we're going to get in ME3 we'll kick some reaper butt. And then... batarians... it will be your turn *Evil laughter*

Still I hope our blue angel does something to help us sway a couple of species to help us, and with the power she now wields it's possibly I suppose..

They attacking everyone at the same time?
Oh uh, I didn't know that.

Oh yes they are  there are some sources (won't mention them due to spoilers) that very clearly state it's not only the humans that are under attack. Well, since shepard and the normandy are indestructible I hope the reapers leave hagalaz well alone.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 03 mai 2011 - 07:02 .

[Centauri2002]

Robhuzz wrote...

Nice one centauri, but why add a renegade shepard + facial scarring, a paragon or character without facial scarring would've been better methinks...

That would be my unfortunate lack of screenshots for my canon Shepard. I didn't even think about taking them when I played through so I only have a handful, and most of them aren't good poses like I have with my RenShep. So I only had a renegade thinking pose, sadly.

However, Liara isn't going to hold the facial scarring against my RenShep. 

I need to go through some scenes and get some better screenies of Kristen though!

[PMC65]

InfoGuy101 wrote...

I wonder how Liara will react if she and Shepard have to go to Thessia to get help from the Asari because if I remember correctly from what she said in ME1 people where expecting a lot from her because she was the daughter of Benezia and she can't really come out and say "oh by the way I'm the Shadow Broker now". Some might still think she's under performed considering her mothers standing is there society.

That line always made me curious about her mother.  I know that Benezia was a spiritual leader in her Matriarch stage, but what did she do in her younger years? Liara wouldn't be expected in her maiden years to compare to a Matriarch ... so it always seemed to me that Benezia was a force even in her youth. It would have been something that pushed the Asari "forward" to balance Liara's love of the "past" (rebellion).

Seeing Liara on Thessia would be interesting ... I would love to see her family home. The place that her and Benezia lived, that would be interesting. My thought would be that her reception would be mixed: There would be those that would still love her mother (followers who knew what she was trying to do with Saren) and those that would consider her mother a traitor (see Matriarch Aethyta's comment about her) .. these would shade how they see Liara as well as Liara's own involvement with ME1 missions. 

If they do have Liara with Shepard on Thessia it would be interesting if they touched on some of this. At least to me.  

[Robhuzz]

centauri2002 wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

Nice one centauri, but why add a renegade shepard + facial scarring, a paragon or character without facial scarring would've been better methinks...

That would be my unfortunate lack of screenshots for my canon Shepard. I didn't even think about taking them when I played through so I only have a handful, and most of them aren't good poses like I have with my RenShep. So I only had a renegade thinking pose, sadly.

However, Liara isn't going to hold the facial scarring against my RenShep. 

I need to go through some scenes and get some better screenies of Kristen though!

She probably will refer her to the equipment on the normandy that lets you heal those scars eventually though..

What do you guys use to take screenshots anyway? While it worked nicely before... the old fashioned printscreen then copy to paint doesn't seem to work any more 

[Robhuzz]

Not a very new picture but it's the first time I've seen this one legally (all others seemed to have been scans from an article) and it shows Liara in ME3, definitely wearing her Lotsb armor. However, does she seem to be wearing different boots in ME3 than she was in Lotsb?

Liara ME3 Picture

Modifié par Robhuzz, 03 mai 2011 - 08:07 .

[PMC65]

Lizardviking wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Apart from Aethyta, Samara could help. The asari put great weight in the decisions, claims and witness of Justicars Samara may also be near Matriarch age.

I have my own personal theory that Samara will be the one to swoop in and put in a good word (and a stare) for Shepard when he tries to convince the Asari to help. Granted I don't know if that is the appropiate thread to talk about it in.

I would think that Thessia would have a leader that Shepard would probably need to speak with.  I hope that if there is some kind of leader that she is "inspiring" both in appearance & manner! Athena-like would be nice. 

Aethyta was a matriarch that had the blue laughed off her ass ... so I'm not sure how much help she would be. Maybe if she brings a tray of "mystery drinks"?

The Justicar did tell my Shepard that if she ever needed her to call, so maybe if she vouches for Shep on Thessia?

[PMC65]

PMC65 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Apart from Aethyta, Samara could help. The asari put great weight in the decisions, claims and witness of Justicars Samara may also be near Matriarch age.

I have my own personal theory that Samara will be the one to swoop in and put in a good word (and a stare) for Shepard when he tries to convince the Asari to help. Granted I don't know if that is the appropiate thread to talk about it in.

I would think that Thessia would have a leader that Shepard would probably need to speak with.  I hope that if there is some kind of leader that she is "inspiring" both in appearance & manner! Athena-like would be nice. 

Aethyta was a matriarch that had the blue laughed off her ass ... so I'm not sure how much help she would be. Maybe if she brings a tray of "mystery drinks"?

The Justicar did tell my Shepard that if she ever needed her to call, so maybe if she vouches for Shep on Thessia?

The leader could be Benezia's sister? Liara's Aunt?

[Robhuzz]

PMC65 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Apart from Aethyta, Samara could help. The asari put great weight in the decisions, claims and witness of Justicars Samara may also be near Matriarch age.

I have my own personal theory that Samara will be the one to swoop in and put in a good word (and a stare) for Shepard when he tries to convince the Asari to help. Granted I don't know if that is the appropiate thread to talk about it in.

I would think that Thessia would have a leader that Shepard would probably need to speak with.  I hope that if there is some kind of leader that she is "inspiring" both in appearance & manner! Athena-like would be nice. 

Aethyta was a matriarch that had the blue laughed off her ass ... so I'm not sure how much help she would be. Maybe if she brings a tray of "mystery drinks"?

The Justicar did tell my Shepard that if she ever needed her to call, so maybe if she vouches for Shep on Thessia?

The leader could be Benezia's sister? Liara's Aunt?

Keep dreaming T'Soni PMC. Though, would be a nice twist.

[TheMarshal]

Robhuzz wrote...

Not a very new picture but it's the first time I've seen this one legally (all others seemed to have been scans from an article) and it shows Liara in ME3, definitely wearing her Lotsb armor. However, does she seem to be wearing different boots in ME3 than she was in Lotsb?

Liara ME3 Picture

I wouldn't trust any in-game models they have yet.  We're still 5 months out, and the final models are probably still being tweaked.  I imagine anything used at this point would be stand-in art, probably using existing assets.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

PMC65 wrote...
I would think that Thessia would have a leader that Shepard would probably need to speak with.  I hope that if there is some kind of leader that she is "inspiring" both in appearance & manner! Athena-like would be nice. 

Aethyta was a matriarch that had the blue laughed off her ass ... so I'm not sure how much help she would be. Maybe if she brings a tray of "mystery drinks"?

The Justicar did tell my Shepard that if she ever needed her to call, so maybe if she vouches for Shep on Thessia?

Thessia is stil devided between city states. So they would have many representiteves. Althrough I guess it is possible that they unite under one voice when we're talking about galactic extinction.

Perhaps if Liara is present during such a meeting. One would launch a mocking remark at Liara that has something to do with Benezia or her being pureblood?

[PMC65]

Lizardviking wrote...

PMC65 wrote...
I would think that Thessia would have a leader that Shepard would probably need to speak with.  I hope that if there is some kind of leader that she is "inspiring" both in appearance & manner! Athena-like would be nice. 

Aethyta was a matriarch that had the blue laughed off her ass ... so I'm not sure how much help she would be. Maybe if she brings a tray of "mystery drinks"?

The Justicar did tell my Shepard that if she ever needed her to call, so maybe if she vouches for Shep on Thessia?

Thessia is stil devided between city states. So they would have many representiteves. Althrough I guess it is possible that they unite under one voice when we're talking about galactic extinction.

Perhaps if Liara is present during such a meeting. One would launch a mocking remark at Liara that has something to do with Benezia or her being pureblood?

They might say something about Benezia, but according to Liara ... "pureblood" is generally not said directly to an asari pureblood. So if the setting is set as "polite" and/or "political" the term (one would think) would be avoided. But since I have never been to Thessia you could be right.

[AnimaTempli101]

Lizardviking wrote...

Perhaps if Liara is present during such a meeting. One would launch a mocking remark at Liara that has something to do with Benezia or her being pureblood?

In such a situation would it be considered a political faux pas to either Vanguard Charge or throw Grunt at the offending Asari?

[PMC65]

Robhuzz wrote...

Keep dreaming T'Soni PMC. Though, would be a nice twist.

As long as we have a tray of mystery drinks ... Woo hoo!