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Liara T'Soni Character Discussion Thread *possible ME3 spoilers*


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I doubt I could stomach cheating on her to get that expression. Oh, and I'd have to play MaleShep or mod my game. >.>

Can I offer you other fun expressions instead? :P

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 Another Liara image I made (I love Liara)



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That is a nice fan art, I hope all Liara Fans been well unsure what I missed lately but I can't wait for more Liara and Mass Effect 3!!!!

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Soooo much blue *swoons*

So I was wondering what people think Liara's role in Asari society might be when she hits the matriarch stage? Granted the specifics of Asari culture hasn't been covered in great detail but can you see her being a Matriarch like Benezia, someone who's duitiful and works for the betterment of the Asari. Would she be more supportive of other races? Or would she argue for the Aethyta angle, war is inevitable so it's best to prepare for it?

I'm not convinced Liara would go back to Asari society at all but if she was to become an important matriarch I think she'd argue more for Aethyta point of view than Benezia's perspective.

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Fiddles_stix wrote...

Soooo much blue *swoons*

So I was wondering what people think Liara's role in Asari society might be when she hits the matriarch stage? Granted the specifics of Asari culture hasn't been covered in great detail but can you see her being a Matriarch like Benezia, someone who's duitiful and works for the betterment of the Asari. Would she be more supportive of other races? Or would she argue for the Aethyta angle, war is inevitable so it's best to prepare for it?

I'm not convinced Liara would go back to Asari society at all but if she was to become an important matriarch I think she'd argue more for Aethyta point of view than Benezia's perspective.


I suppose it depends a great deal on how the asari come out of the reaper wars (for lack of a better name, although reaper wars sounds rather cool to me). We all know (of course) that when Aethyta gave her opinion about how to change asari society the blue was laughed of her ass, so current date asari would probably not be able to change at all.

After the wars, I'm guessing the humans being "Creatures of action, you pursue goals with an almost indomitable determination" as stated by the lovely dr. T'soni will take a ruling position in the galaxy. The Asari however, with their long term look on the galaxy will probably have a lot of difficulty just adapting to losing many colonies, people and their leading role in the galaxy. I think a strong alternate opinion (possibly by Aethyta or Liara) would be needed at this time to pull the Asari through.

Okay I went off topic there, so back to your original question: We've all seen in ME2 and Lotsb that Liara prefers action over talk now, much like Aethyta. Being no typical Asari and very mature for her age (I dare say it almost appears as if she's skipped the entire maiden stage and went straight to the matron stage, at least mentally) I think Liara as a matriarch would be a lot more like Aethyta than Benezia in terms of her view on asari society and the way it should evolve.

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Yes, Liara, you make good use of those skin pigmentations!

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her eyes are expressive. noticed how much her eyelids moved during conversations in ME1...thought it was a minute issue with the graphics...but after seeing how they were in ME2 and especially in LotSB....

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Robhuzz wrote...

I suppose it depends a great deal on how the asari come out of the reaper wars (for lack of a better name, although reaper wars sounds rather cool to me). We all know (of course) that when Aethyta gave her opinion about how to change asari society the blue was laughed of her ass, so current date asari would probably not be able to change at all.

After the wars, I'm guessing the humans being "Creatures of action, you pursue goals with an almost indomitable determination" as stated by the lovely dr. T'soni will take a ruling position in the galaxy. The Asari however, with their long term look on the galaxy will probably have a lot of difficulty just adapting to losing many colonies, people and their leading role in the galaxy. I think a strong alternate opinion (possibly by Aethyta or Liara) would be needed at this time to pull the Asari through.

Okay I went off topic there, so back to your original question: We've all seen in ME2 and Lotsb that Liara prefers action over talk now, much like Aethyta. Being no typical Asari and very mature for her age (I dare say it almost appears as if she's skipped the entire maiden stage and went straight to the matron stage, at least mentally) I think Liara as a matriarch would be a lot more like Aethyta than Benezia in terms of her view on asari society and the way it should evolve.

I think we're of a mind on her being more action/defence focused for the Asari despite non-blue asses. I hope that she'd have a more encompassing view than other Asari and hopefully a soft spot for humans in general. I can see her being wise but also seems just as likely she'd forego it all for something else. 

But I wonder what the earliest age is for Asari to enter the matriarch stage?

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Robhuzz wrote...

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 Got a new photo for Liara

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Something of my make


The 3rd picture on the bottom row is from a ME3 concept picture right? Is it just me or have Liara's looks gone down since Lotsb?


Being the Shadow Broker and waging full scale galactic war for survival can wear pretty heavy on a person, I suppose.

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And my Shepard loves her so damn much he'll keep her no matter how roughed up she gets.

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Fiddles_stix wrote...

But I wonder what the earliest age is for Asari to enter the matriarch stage?


The Codex states that an asari can trigger any of the life stages once they feel they've reached the correct level of maturity.

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centauri2002 wrote...

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Yes, Liara, you make good use of those skin pigmentations!


I don't know why, but in this shot Liara reminds me a lot of the Luna Lovegood character from the later Harry Potter movies.

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According to the OXM. Liara leaves her role as the SB to help you in ME3.

I am not sure what to think of this. Kinda renders LOTSB moot...

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According to the OXM. Liara leaves her role as the SB to help you in ME3.

I am not sure what to think of this. Kinda renders LOTSB moot...


I think the key question is when does she leave it? If it's half way through the game then I don't mind so much. Besides, I want Liara at Shepard's side eventually.

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centauri2002 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

According to the OXM. Liara leaves her role as the SB to help you in ME3.

I am not sure what to think of this. Kinda renders LOTSB moot...


I think the key question is when does she leave it? If it's half way through the game then I don't mind so much. Besides, I want Liara at Shepard's side eventually.


True. But I got a feeling that it's relativly early.

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Lizardviking wrote...

True. But I got a feeling that it's relativly early.


I would be surprised if it's near the beginning of the game. The set-up surrounding her take over as Shadow Broker was just too involved for it to be squandered like that. But, stranger things have been known to happen, I suppose. 

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Lizardviking wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

According to the OXM. Liara leaves her role as the SB to help you in ME3.

I am not sure what to think of this. Kinda renders LOTSB moot...


I think the key question is when does she leave it? If it's half way through the game then I don't mind so much. Besides, I want Liara at Shepard's side eventually.


True. But I got a feeling that it's relativly early.


feron can take over and feed you intel...kinda taken over the role of TIM to help move the story along? dunno....i just wanna have her on the team...sooner the better

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centauri2002 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

True. But I got a feeling that it's relativly early.


I would be surprised if it's near the beginning of the game. The set-up surrounding her take over as Shadow Broker was just too involved for it to be squandered like that. But, stranger things have been known to happen, I suppose. 


From a gameplay standpoint it would make sense to perhaps give the player all possible squadmates as soon as possible (ME3 seems to be structered more like ME1 compared to 2). To compensate for casuelties on suicide mission etc.

But I really should wait before making futher comments on this. I just hope her role as the SB is not just thrown away.

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nuthin wrong with  a little speculation..for speculation's sake anyways.

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True enough. From a game play perspective I'd agree with you, Lizard. From a story perspective, it doesn't seem to make sense though. But consistency in storytelling in games isn't the highest priority. >.>

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centauri2002 wrote...

True enough. From a game play perspective I'd agree with you, Lizard. From a story perspective, it doesn't seem to make sense though. But consistency in storytelling in games isn't the highest priority. >.>


Placement of squad recruitment have not been too bad in the ME series.

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centauri2002 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

According to the OXM. Liara leaves her role as the SB to help you in ME3.

I am not sure what to think of this. Kinda renders LOTSB moot...


I think the key question is when does she leave it? If it's half way through the game then I don't mind so much. Besides, I want Liara at Shepard's side eventually.


Or who does she leave with it with? With Feron? Or did the base get attacked?

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Lizardviking wrote...

According to the OXM. Liara leaves her role as the SB to help you in ME3.

I am not sure what to think of this. Kinda renders LOTSB moot...


Lair was meant to conclude the Redemption arc, which it did, for good or ill.

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Lord Zeuss wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

According to the OXM. Liara leaves her role as the SB to help you in ME3.

I am not sure what to think of this. Kinda renders LOTSB moot...


Lair was meant to conclude the Redemption arc, which it did, for good or ill.


Execpt it also heavily foreshadows or sets up Liara becoming an important character in that she will directly assist Shepard in stopping the Reapers using her network. Which is why I feel it will be a waste just to throw "Liara is the SB" out of the window.

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Lizardviking wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

According to the OXM. Liara leaves her role as the SB to help you in ME3.

I am not sure what to think of this. Kinda renders LOTSB moot...


Lair was meant to conclude the Redemption arc, which it did, for good or ill.


Execpt it also heavily foreshadows or sets up Liara becoming an important character in that she will directly assist Shepard in stopping the Reapers using her network. Which is why I feel it will be a waste just to throw "Liara is the SB" out of the window.


Maybe that's why she has to leave? There are other ways the Network might help than Liara telling Shepard which aftershave Councilor Velarn uses. I might even have a theory that the Network has to be destroyed in order to frustrate the Reapers (think of it: a near-omniscient library of every secret in the galaxy--you don't think the Reapers would have a purpose for it?). Liara may have been put into the position (story-wise) so she will be able to put the torch to the whole thing when the Reapers come calling. There really are a lot of ways it could make sense.

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Lord Zeuss wrote...
Maybe that's why she has to leave? There are other ways the Network might help than Liara telling Shepard which aftershave Councilor Velarn uses. I might even have a theory that the Network has to be destroyed in order to frustrate the Reapers (think of it: a near-omniscient library of every secret in the galaxy--you don't think the Reapers would have a purpose for it?). Liara may have been put into the position (story-wise) so she will be able to put the torch to the whole thing when the Reapers come calling. There really are a lot of ways it could make sense.


Maybe. But setting her in the role of the SB (also considering what she says) just so she can shut it down seems somewhat silly. Might as well just have the SB network get destroyed in LOTSB then.