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[TMA LIVE]

jlb524 wrote...

It's an evil achievement. Evil!

I do desire the ability to romance Liara anew in ME3, b/c then I could RP the relationship as I wish....starting out as friends in ME1 and finally coming together after all the ME2 drama in ME3. Though, I realize this romance probably won't be as in depth or as 'good' as the one in which Liara was romanced from the beginning.

That's actually what I really want to do with my femshep. I feel like she doesn't want to be attached to anyone in ME1 right now, and it bugs me that the romance question pops so soon with Kaidan and Liara. She's the kind that wants zero attachments, which is the opposite of what the ME1 romances represent (aka, a 3 game commitment). So I don't know what to do with the character.

[jlb524]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

While we're at it, has anyone tried playing a Ruthlesss Paragon? My next Shepard is going to be just that. I want to make her an atoner. I think it's an interesting mixture of background and alignment.

My canon Shepard, Rachel is exactly like that.  Though, she's closer to Paragade, but makes the major Paragon decisions.

Modifié par jlb524, 11 mai 2011 - 05:13 .

[jlb524]

TMA LIVE wrote...

That's actually what I really want to do with my femshep. I feel like she doesn't want to be attached to anyone in ME1 right now, and it bugs me that the romance question pops so soon with Kaidan and Liara. She's the kind that wants zero attachments, which is the opposite of what the ME1 romances represent (aka, a 3 game commitment). So I don't know what to do with the character.

It actually makes more sense to me that someone like Shepard would be difficult to become romantically attached to, but all LIs seem to be able to do this quite easily (in ME1 and ME2, though Liara's moves the quickest out of all).

I would imagine this hypothetical Shepard that I have yet to create would still develop feelings for Liara in ME1, but doesn't act upon them do to duty and her own shyness.  I kind of like having the "I like you, you like me, let's get together" part of the romance take place over three games instead of happening in two convos during ME1.  This is why I like the pacing of the DA2 romances better.

[Fiery Phoenix]

jlb524 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

While we're at it, has anyone tried playing a Ruthlesss Paragon? My next Shepard is going to be just that. I want to make her an atoner. I think it's an interesting mixture of background and alignment.

My canon Shepard, Rachel is exactly like that.

Very nice!

I will also make her a Colonist, which is the only origin I have yet to try. An atoner who has suffered through loss and despair sounds very intriguing. Can't wait until I can do all this!

[jlb524]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

While we're at it, has anyone tried playing a Ruthlesss Paragon? My next Shepard is going to be just that. I want to make her an atoner. I think it's an interesting mixture of background and alignment.

My canon Shepard, Rachel is exactly like that.

Very nice!

I will also make her a Colonist, which is the only origin I have yet to try. An atoner who has suffered through loss and despair sounds very intriguing. Can't wait until I can do all this!

It's an interesting RP experience and makes Arrival even worse for Shepard.

My Shepard is Earthborn though.  Things sucked for her since her diaper days

[TMA LIVE]

centauri2002 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Oh yeah, I forgot about the comic book choice thingy!

I'll still probably go through the entirety of ME1/ME2 with this "romance fail" Shepard (I plan to go through ME1/ME2 again at least once before ME3 comes out).

Now, I'll just have to determine her class...

Infiltrator would be perfect. Any sign of romantic interest and *poof* Shepard disappears.

I'm pretty sure we could come up with a good reason why all of the classes would suit it though. >.>

Ultimately, it depends on what kind of character you make her. Is she just socially challenged or is she purposely avoiding romance? 

My character is a Colonist/Sole Survivor. So she's the type that doesn't want to be attached to anyone, since chances are they'll die or leave, like her parents and her team. She's just in it all for the action, so isn't against a fling, but she'd have to be with someone for a very long time in order to start wanting an attachment.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 11 mai 2011 - 05:18 .

[Robhuzz]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Yeah, I hear you. I'm very much expecting an option to establish a relationship with Liara and the VS in ME3, since there is apparently no new love interests this time around.

I doubt there's an option to really establish a relationship in ME3, rather when creating a new character, you'll choose a relationship and the game will treat it as if you've been in that romance since ME1 or ME2, though why anyone would WANT to do this is and not even create this character from scratch in ME1 is beyond me. I dare say imported characters won't have a chance to start a new romance with Liara/VS.

I would love a special bonus for staying with Liara the entire time. As long as that said bonus is not just a "achievment unlocked".

A bonus sounds good although I'd be content with a very sweet romance scene. From what we've heard so far it also sounds like cheating shepard is going to get punished in ME3 one way or another. Making that romance scene I mentioned an even bigger bonus.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 11 mai 2011 - 07:56 .

[JiGsAw2453]

While we're at it, has anyone tried playing a Ruthlesss Paragon? My next Shepard is going to be just that. I want to make her an atoner. I think it's an interesting mixture of background and alignment.

My canon is a Ruthless paragon, in my FanFic I make her very emotional because she had to make the decision (on Torfan), but had wished there had been another way ever since. People call her "The butcher of Torfan" but she simply made a choice to save more lives, it doesn't mean she doesn't remember her decision everyday of her life (as mine does) and regret it. :3

Sophie Shepard - Paragon (Apart from SM renegade decision and interrupts) - Ruthless - spacer - Loves Liara (As all my other 5 Shepards do. )

Modifié par JiGsAw2453, 11 mai 2011 - 10:02 .

[Legion 2.5]

Good video JiGsAw. Hey I need ideas for more liara wallpapers

[JiGsAw2453]

Thanks. ^^

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

So most Shepards in here are the paragon atoner?

[TheMarshal]

Mine's Paragade-y Earthborn/Sole-Survivor. I still can't quite reconcile the attitude that I want her to have with her upbringing, so I'll just wave my hands and say "she's dealt with it".

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

TheMarshal wrote...

Mine's Paragade-y Earthborn/Sole-Survivor. I still can't quite reconcile the attitude that I want her to have with her upbringing, so I'll just wave my hands and say "she's dealt with it".

What kind of attitude is it exactly you want that SHepard to have?

[TheMarshal]

Lizardviking wrote...

What kind of attitude is it exactly you want that SHepard to have?

The way I figure, she's been through a lot in her life, so there's very little that people do which threatens/impresses her.  She doesn't particularly like the Alliance because of how beaureaucratic/regimented it is, but she sticks with it because it gave her life purpose.  She has a healthy disrespect for authority, but tries to maintain some semblance of discipline because she doesn't want another Akuze to happen.

I think the thing that I want her to be that I have a hard time explaning is her paragon-ness.  She used to be a MUCH bigger paragon than I could believe, so I gave her more of an edge.  That helped, but why would she save the rachni queen, why would she try to talk down Saren/Wrex/others...  these are questions I haven't been able to answer other than to say "that's just who she is".  So I guess in that regard, she's somewhat of a reformer (assuming she was more of a **** when she was living on Earth).

[Rolling Flame]

Guys, I have a question that hopefully you can answer, because I can't think of a plausible explanation. 

No doubt you all know that at the start of ME2, when TIM gives the dossiers for the first time, Shepard can ask about what happened to the old team. Now, when Shepard asks about Liara, TIM states that she is working for the Shadow Broker, and can't be trusted. What I want to know is, why he would say this, considering he would most probably know that working for the Broker would be the last thing Liara after his dealings with Harbinger. To me, at least, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

[TMA LIVE]

The belief is that TIM lied to you, because he didn't want you to later learn that Liara saved your life. He probably wanted you to think it's was all him that saved you, with no assistance from your friends.

But honestly, I have a theory that originally Liara was suppose to work for the Shadow Broker, but they later changed the story. However, they forgot to change the line.

[Centauri2002]

I'm pretty sure it's TIM manipulating Shepard. Although I believe the lines says she may be working with the Shadow Broker. Liara's an information broker, and a good one, so she likely has a lot of data that TIM doesn't want Shepard getting her hands on. He's protecting his investment, most likely.

[TMA LIVE]

Speaking of which, what was your first reaction when TIM said "I hear she's working for Shadow Broker. If so, she can't be trusted"?

Aka, your old girlfriend can't be trusted.

[Centauri2002]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Speaking of which, what was your first reaction when TIM said "I hear she's working for Shadow Broker. If so, she can't be trusted"?

Aka, your old girlfriend can't be trusted.

My reaction? Or Shepard's?

Neither I or Shepard could believe it. This wasn't the Liara we knew. Shepard was still confused though. She didn't know what the heck was going on. So much could have changed in the two years. She didn't think Liara would have a complete personality change though and disregard her own beliefs.

I was fairly certain TIM was lying though. I didn't envisage Liara in that role but I still wasn't quite sure what to expect. I didn't mistrust Liara upon meeting her though.

[TMA LIVE]

I was more surprised when I discovered she was working against the Shadow Broker, because I heard about Redemption, and originally thought she traded herself for Shepard's body. Or was caught, and made a slave with a collar.

As for Shepard, I guess he didn't know what to think.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 12 mai 2011 - 01:37 .

[PMC65]

Rolling Flame wrote...

Guys, I have a question that hopefully you can answer, because I can't think of a plausible explanation. 

No doubt you all know that at the start of ME2, when TIM gives the dossiers for the first time, Shepard can ask about what happened to the old team. Now, when Shepard asks about Liara, TIM states that she is working for the Shadow Broker, and can't be trusted. What I want to know is, why he would say this, considering he would most probably know that working for the Broker would be the last thing Liara after his dealings with Harbinger. To me, at least, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

His not telling you the truth could be for so many reasons ... Is Liara your LI? Just a friend? Non-friend (Stalker)? 
How do you see TIM? Evil? Human-centric? Your buddy? What type of Shepard are you? Background/experience?

He tells my 4 Shepards a lie for 4 different reasons in the game. But each Shepard is quite different all the way to love interests ... so that impacts the reason to lie because Liara means different things to each Shepard.

[Rolling Flame]

Thanks for the answers. Personally, I would've thought that TIM might've encouraged Shepard to assist Liara in tracking down the Shadow Broker from the very beginning, given the fact that Cerberus and the Broker's organisation were at odds with one another.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

TheMarshal wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

What kind of attitude is it exactly you want that SHepard to have?

The way I figure, she's been through a lot in her life, so there's very little that people do which threatens/impresses her.  She doesn't particularly like the Alliance because of how beaureaucratic/regimented it is, but she sticks with it because it gave her life purpose.  She has a healthy disrespect for authority, but tries to maintain some semblance of discipline because she doesn't want another Akuze to happen.

I think the thing that I want her to be that I have a hard time explaning is her paragon-ness.  She used to be a MUCH bigger paragon than I could believe, so I gave her more of an edge.  That helped, but why would she save the rachni queen, why would she try to talk down Saren/Wrex/others...  these are questions I haven't been able to answer other than to say "that's just who she is".  So I guess in that regard, she's somewhat of a reformer (assuming she was more of a **** when she was living on Earth).

I always love to hear how others roleplay their Shepard.

Perhaps her being more paragon than you expected can be seen as her being more willing to give people second chances (always thought an earthborn paragon sets this up quite nicely)? Considering she lived a life of crime herself when she was younger. Also, how do you weave Liara into this Shepard storyline?

[Robhuzz]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Speaking of which, what was your first reaction when TIM said "I hear she's working for Shadow Broker. If so, she can't be trusted"?

Aka, your old girlfriend can't be trusted.

My first reaction was: "Yeah right, you've got to do better than that. Now how do I get to Illium?"