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[ratzerman]

Yeah, the squad UI is gorgeous! A huge improvement over the ugly yellow and orange of ME2.

And I'm really liking Liara's new face model.

[jlb524]

ratzerman wrote...

Yeah, the squad UI is gorgeous! A huge improvement over the ugly yellow and orange of ME2.

And I'm really liking Liara's new face model.

[PMC65]

SilentNukee wrote...


I absolutely love the ME3 squad UI.
I want Liara to get those blue eyes from LotSB back, though.

Notice the squadmate Paragon/Renegade bar? 

I wonder if that will be in the final game and if the bar will be auto set by Bioware and/or if Shepard will influence it.

[jlb524]

PMC65 wrote...

My Shepard also does not want to marry or have kids but I do love Liara's response, so I play it as a tease.

I didn't really like the other dialogue choice, just wish that there had been a 3rd option that was somewhere between the two. Something that was flirty & loving with a promise of a playful future together.

Yeah, it can be seen that way, but my Shepard's all angsty McAngst Butt. 

SilentNukee wrote...

Notice the squadmate Paragon/Renegade bar? 

If that's legit (and not just an unfinished UI that is showing Shepard's bar) I hope it works similar to the DA2's friend/rival system, in that you can get two different paths/endings with each character if they lean towards one philosophy or the other.    They did say character dev was more important.

I'm not sure what Paragon Liara would be vs. Renegade?  Perhaps Renegade Liara goes back to doing Shadow Broker stuff, while Paragon does...something else?  Becomes more involved in galactic politics?  Becomes a Justicar?  *flees*

Modifié par jlb524, 09 juin 2011 - 01:33 .

[Asari Scientist]

Does anyone else think that Bioware should use Liara's LotSB armor as an example, instead of Miranda's Catsuit? When I first saw it, I really thought that they were going in the right direction, you know, with ARMOR.

[PMC65]

jlb524 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

My Shepard also does not want to marry or have kids but I do love Liara's response, so I play it as a tease.

I didn't really like the other dialogue choice, just wish that there had been a 3rd option that was somewhere between the two. Something that was flirty & loving with a promise of a playful future together.

Yeah, it can be seen that way, but my Shepard's all angsty McAngst Butt. 

LOL!! Poor Liara seems to be stuck with two "problem" children.

[PMC65]

Asari Scientist wrote...

Does anyone else think that Bioware should use Liara's LotSB armor as an example, instead of Miranda's Catsuit? When I first saw it, I really thought that they were going in the right direction, you know, with ARMOR.

Miranda would look overdressed in Liara's outfit and it would be too tight in certain places. And then what would Liara wear? ... oh, I see. You sneaky snake.

[TMA LIVE]

I do wonder if you'll be able to renegade her or paragon her. But honestly, I don't want Shepard having control over her path. I want it to be more define by now. I don't want to be the Magneto to Mystique, if you know what I mean. Something like that should've been either in ME or ME2.

[NanQuan]

Hola, Liara fans.  I thought I'd share links to some Liara fanfic I wrote for anyone who was bored and was looking for something to read.  I have two stories (same shep in both though) that center around the Liara romance in ME1 and ME2. Both have received good reviews, so I feel comfortable sharing them here on the forum for anyone who is interested.

All Things Pass
www.fanfiction.net/s/6883994/1/All_Things_Pass
Takes place during ME1 and goes up to Ilos.  Completely finished.

Sub Specie Aeternitatis
www.fanfiction.net/s/6997081/1/Sub_Specie_Aeternitatis
A sequel to "All Things Pass."  Takes place throughout ME2.  It is not necessary to read the first one to understand the second, but I would recommend reading "All Things Pass" beforehand because I have interwoven themes, ideas, and literary elements from the first story into the second.  I think you'd get more out of it if you read "All Things Pass" first.  This is almost finished.  I have only one more chapter to complete.

I have another story that features Liara somewhat heavily, but as one person put it "this is different than "typical" Liara-related (or, rather, Liara-tagged anyway) fics-no rainbows and ponies here."   I thought that was a good description.  So, if you're curious, there's also that story, but it's darker than the above two since it features a pretty hardcore renegade.

Anyway, if you choose to take a look at the stories, then I hope you enjoy.

Modifié par NanQuan, 09 juin 2011 - 03:35 .

[sh4zamm]

So who already pre-ordered the n7 collector's edition?

[SilentNukee]

Ok, it was confirmed on Casey's twitter that the bar was just there 'cuz the UI isn't exactly finished. So yeah, no Paragon/Renegade Liara.

[kumquats]

NanQuan wrote...
I have another story that features Liara somewhat heavily, but as one person put it "this is different than "typical" Liara-related (or, rather, Liara-tagged anyway) fics-no rainbows and ponies here."   I thought that was a good description.  So, if you're curious, there's also that story, but it's darker than the above two since it features a pretty hardcore renegade.

Anyway, if you choose to take a look at the stories, then I hope you enjoy.

I'm always pleased with Renegades who romance Liara. I will check it out after work.

Thx for the infos about the bar and I get the CE for this game! Need Robo-Dog!

[Richard 060]

Saw the new screencaps - looks like the new ME3 model is based on the improved, LotSB version in terms of actual geometry, but with the more appropriate colours of the ME/early ME2 version (mainly the pink 'lipstick' and suchlike), which (IMO) really helps set Liara apart from other Asari just that bit more, visually.

Looking good, certainly - now all I need is a flux-capacitor in the boot of my car, so I can skip ahead to March next year...

[Cypher0020]

when do you think we'll be able to recruit her? Make a pitstop by the SB base? Who'd take over then? Feron?

[jlb524]

If I was Shepard, I'd go to the SB base after leaving Earth....right after I stop by the Citadel to punch Councilor Velarn.

The SB base is far from where the Reapers are attackin...and it has intel.

Modifié par jlb524, 09 juin 2011 - 06:35 .

[PMC65]

Cypher0020 wrote...

when do you think we'll be able to recruit her? Make a pitstop by the SB base? Who'd take over then? Feron?

Just as soon as I see the greenlight it's off to the SB base! Let's hope that it is somewhere near the beginning of the game. My femshep could give a rat's as5 about the whole SB set-up ... she wants Liara with her now. They have been apart for over 2 - 3 years really. Enough is enough!

As far as Feron goes, if my femshep has any say in the matter, he will be left on the SB base.
 
Sorry, but my Shepard has her jealous side and she doesn't trust the drell around Liara. 

Now my other Shepards (who didn't romance her) will invite her buddy onboard!  
 

[Robhuzz]

jlb524 wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Yeah, the squad UI is gorgeous! A huge improvement over the ugly yellow and orange of ME2.

And I'm really liking Liara's new face model.

This screenie was taken right after the "I feel bad for him/her but I'm glad you chose me" dialogue right after choosing Liara over Kaiden/Ashley? I love that scene^_^

Does anyone else think that Bioware should use Liara's LotSB armor as an example, instead of Miranda's Catsuit? When I first saw it, I really thought that they were going in the right direction, you know, with ARMOR.

Well to be honest I don't think it's in Liara's personality to run around the battlefield half naked or in a catsuit. However the same can be said about Ashley and look what they put on her in ME3. I'm not too worried about this since we're so far away from release and Liara seems to be wearing her Lotsb armor anyway.

Ok, it was confirmed on Casey's twitter that the bar was just there 'cuz the UI isn't exactly finished. So yeah, no Paragon/Renegade Liara.

Thanks for clearing that up anyway. Better than baseless speculation and to be dissapointed later.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 09 juin 2011 - 06:58 .

[EsterCloat]

Robhuzz wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Yeah, the squad UI is gorgeous! A huge improvement over the ugly yellow and orange of ME2.

And I'm really liking Liara's new face model.

This screenie was taken right after the "I feel bad for him/her but I'm glad you chose me" dialogue right after choosing Liara over Kaiden/Ashley? I love that scene^_^

Does anyone else think that Bioware should use Liara's LotSB armor as an example, instead of Miranda's Catsuit? When I first saw it, I really thought that they were going in the right direction, you know, with ARMOR.

Well to be honest I don't think it's in Liara's personality to run around the battlefield half naked or in a catsuit. However the same can be said about Ashley and look what they put on her in ME3. I'm not too worried about this since we're so far away from release and Liara seems to be wearing her Lotsb armor anyway.

Ok, it was confirmed on Casey's twitter that the bar was just there 'cuz the UI isn't exactly finished. So yeah, no Paragon/Renegade Liara.

Thanks for clearing that up anyway. Better than baseless speculation and to be dissapointed later.

Is it sad to say that I didn't even realize I was leading Ash on until they both confronted me in that scene? I was just being nice. How naive I was. I like how they brought back old Liara for ME3. LotSB was nice but she just seemed so different. I never fully got used to her new look so seeing her old one back is satisfying. Some people are complaining about it though. Maybe as a compromise there can be alternate appearances available with one having this new Liara face model and another having the old LotSB model on it? That could also work with Ash now that I think about it: one with her new hairstyle and another with it up in a bun like her ME1 model. Not sure how much work that would take but there will be alternate appearances available according the N7 Collector's Edition. It shouldn't be too hard to implement an alternate appearance for Liara that's the same as her ME3 model but with swapped out heads, would it?

They might just say "get used to it" though, like they did with the LotSB model to those who liked the old one. :/

Well, in the second alternate appearance pack Miranda gets some actual armor rather than her catsuit thing that looks surprisingly useful rather than just tissue paper. If they go along this path I would have no complaints.

Figured as much for the renegade/paragon bar. Well, at least that'll uncomplicate multiple playthroughs for me. I thought I'd have to do two separate playthroughs where I renegade and paragon influence Liara. You know, just to see what would happen.

Modifié par EsterCloat, 09 juin 2011 - 09:09 .

[Sarcastic Tasha]

Why would people pay money to cover Miranda's arse? I won't even let her wear her black outfit because the white one does a better job of showing off her arse. Its part of her personality and it does a great job of bringing a bit of humour into a tense situation. I also like her catsuit because it reminds me of 7 of 9. Not that I think Liara should wear a catsuit, it fits Miranda's personality, it wouldn't fit Liara's personality.

[Robhuzz]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...

Ok, it was confirmed on Casey's twitter that the bar was just there 'cuz the UI isn't exactly finished. So yeah, no Paragon/Renegade Liara.

Happy to hear it  (sorry Nukee )

It might have offered more character development in relation to in-game choices but I found when playing DA2 I was constantly checking who I was taking with me where because I kew they would all react differently in each mission and trying to get some characters on rival (looking at you Varric) and others on Friendship (Carver) was challenging with many reloads.

It was distracting enough to be thinking about having to choose Paragon for certain later chocies when I would rather have gone Renegade. Now that I've been through ME2 many many times I just go Paragade but I'm not convinced a paragon/renegade bar would have been good. I find having only two options prevents the characters from being complex and having faults. I rather have Liara able to call my Shepard out on any choice she disagrees with rather than ones that, sort of fit but not really with her philosophy.

Funny for you to mention that. I did the exact same thing in one playthrough. Because I wanted a playthrough were every party member was on the friendship path (even fenris) I actually used the dragonage wikia to see which quests gave friendship points to which party member and changed my party accordingly. This is something I'd rather avoid in ME3. I'm not saying I'd want an approval system in ME3 but people calling Shepard out on his descisions would be nice. Kind of like the rachni queen situation or the geth heretic rewrite. With Wrex becoming mad for not destroying the rachni queen and Garrus/Tali not wanting the main geth faction to become stronger.

[TMA LIVE]

If the Justicar bit is true, you think she might do it simple so she won't move on from Shepard, until she dies?

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

TMA LIVE wrote...

If the Justicar bit is true, you think she might do it simple so she won't move on from Shepard, until she dies?

I have a hard time believing Liara will be a justicar in ME3. According to the codex there is an extremly tough training in order to achieve such a title. I doubt Liara has had the time to complete one in under half a year (or how long time there is between LOTSB and ME3).

Even if she does express some interest I hope my Shepard can tell her that she find better ways to help the galaxy than give her self up to some ancient (and outdated?) code.

[Robhuzz]

Actually, after looking at the outfit again (carefully this time), it looks like it's an EXACT copy of Liara's Lotsb outfit, just in a red/black colour, complete with the small cape and everything. Not Samara's outfit at all. This pretty much throws the justicar rumours out the window as far as I'm concerned.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 09 juin 2011 - 12:14 .