TheMarshal wrote...
PMC65 wrote...
I saw (though brief) how Benezia and Liara loved each other on Noveria and it broke my Shepard's heart that Liara wouldn't share her grief. I found it interesting how she called her mother Benezia, for the most part, until she was speaking to her ... then it was 'mother'. I wish that they had shown Liara holding her mother after she dies but you take what you can get.
No... you really don't...
That is just too sad! I can still hear her cry out "Mother!"
TheMarshal wrote...
PMC65 wrote...
I saw (though brief) how Benezia and Liara loved each other on Noveria and it broke my Shepard's heart that Liara wouldn't share her grief. I found it interesting how she called her mother Benezia, for the most part, until she was speaking to her ... then it was 'mother'. I wish that they had shown Liara holding her mother after she dies but you take what you can get.
No... you really don't...
TheMarshal wrote...
Lizardviking wrote...
After giving Liara's ME3 face some time I have not arrived to any new conlcuion. I still do not like it.
Simply too weird looking. Lips does not match skin colour and eyes are nothing compared to her LOTSB version. Wonder if somebody will make a mod once ME3 is out that gives Liara her LOTSB face?
"Waits for new screenshots or videos for next re-evaluation".
Well now that E3 is over we can begin ourassaultcampaign to Casey Hudson or David Silverman to get them to clarify what Liara's ME3 face will look like.
We are going to have to agree to disagree. It seemed to me when Liara was mention her second parent to Shepard in ME1, that she wanted to know her "father" or at the very least know that her father actually cared for her. And from the vid of Aethyta looking at Liara's photo, that seemed to be the case. Or at least to me anyway.IndigoWolfe wrote...
ladyvader wrote...
I was amused all right. Espeically the reporter chick getting punched by the Korgan and kicked by the Volus. I do hope the we get to see them reunite. Anything to have Liara be happy.I think that would make her happy.
Actually, I'd have to disagree. The absence of her other parent is something she's come to terms with and from which she's moved on. If the subject does come up with Aethyta, I think at best it would be an awkard moment of indecision for her, at worst it would be reopening an old wound.
So, I don't think it would make her "happy" per se. Certainly not at first.
ladyvader wrote...
We are going to have to agree to disagree. It seemed to me when Liara was mention her second parent to Shepard in ME1, that she wanted to know her "father" or at the very least know that her father actually cared for her. And from the vid of Aethyta looking at Liara's photo, that seemed to be the case. Or at least to me anyway.IndigoWolfe wrote...
ladyvader wrote...
I was amused all right. Espeically the reporter chick getting punched by the Korgan and kicked by the Volus. I do hope the we get to see them reunite. Anything to have Liara be happy.
Actually, I'd have to disagree. The absence of her other parent is something she's come to terms with and from which she's moved on. If the subject does come up with Aethyta, I think at best it would be an awkard moment of indecision for her, at worst it would be reopening an old wound.
So, I don't think it would make her "happy" per se. Certainly not at first.
As much as I like disproportionate threats over small things(I think Mythbusters busted your death ray plans though), I think you guys are making a problem out of nothing. Found a tweet from Christina Norman. Basically says that none of the characters are going to look like their ME1 versions and seeing as the "new" Liara face is basically an uprezzed version of her ME1 face, I'm pretty convinced it was just a placeholder. They'll probably just clarify it as a placeholder once you ask and we can move on to more pressing questions.Lizardviking wrote...
TheMarshal wrote...
Lizardviking wrote...
After giving Liara's ME3 face some time I have not arrived to any new conlcuion. I still do not like it.
Simply too weird looking. Lips does not match skin colour and eyes are nothing compared to her LOTSB version. Wonder if somebody will make a mod once ME3 is out that gives Liara her LOTSB face?
"Waits for new screenshots or videos for next re-evaluation".
Well now that E3 is over we can begin ourassaultcampaign to Casey Hudson or David Silverman to get them to clarify what Liara's ME3 face will look like.
YES!
We will demand that Casey Hudson and Bioware will return Liara to her LOTSB state. If this demand is not complied. I will use our collected mirrrors and magnifying glasses to create a "death ray" and destroy the Bioware HQ.
Modifié par EsterCloat, 10 juin 2011 - 11:23 .
Lizardviking wrote...
TheMarshal wrote...
PMC65 wrote...
I saw (though brief) how Benezia and Liara loved each other on Noveria and it broke my Shepard's heart that Liara wouldn't share her grief. I found it interesting how she called her mother Benezia, for the most part, until she was speaking to her ... then it was 'mother'. I wish that they had shown Liara holding her mother after she dies but you take what you can get.
No... you really don't...
Blame that on Darkhorse comics!
But yeah. I think Benezia's death was pretty bad. It certainly one of those areas where almost every aspect of making a good scene failed.
Modifié par TMA LIVE, 10 juin 2011 - 11:30 .
I just want to say about the aftermath of Benezia's death and Liara's reaction to it. Just because we didn't see it in game, doesn't mean Liara didn't break down at some point. She could have easily been putting up a facade for Shepard. Just a thought.TMA LIVE wrote...
Lizardviking wrote...
TheMarshal wrote...
PMC65 wrote...
I saw (though brief) how Benezia and Liara loved each other on Noveria and it broke my Shepard's heart that Liara wouldn't share her grief. I found it interesting how she called her mother Benezia, for the most part, until she was speaking to her ... then it was 'mother'. I wish that they had shown Liara holding her mother after she dies but you take what you can get.
No... you really don't...
Blame that on Darkhorse comics!
But yeah. I think Benezia's death was pretty bad. It certainly one of those areas where almost every aspect of making a good scene failed.
Same with the aftermath, where Liara's over it. Or simply believes you're the good guy if you pick her up after killing her mother.
That's always a possibility. On my own personal thoughts I was okay with the way the scene and emotional responses were handled. Of course, when playing games I tend to turn off my brain so much that only the biggest plot holes and inconsistencies will catch my notice.ladyvader wrote...
I just want to say about the aftermath of Benezia's death and Liara's reaction to it. Just because we didn't see it in game, doesn't mean Liara didn't break down at some point. She could have easily been putting up a facade for Shepard. Just a thought.TMA LIVE wrote...
Lizardviking wrote...
TheMarshal wrote...
PMC65 wrote...
I saw (though brief) how Benezia and Liara loved each other on Noveria and it broke my Shepard's heart that Liara wouldn't share her grief. I found it interesting how she called her mother Benezia, for the most part, until she was speaking to her ... then it was 'mother'. I wish that they had shown Liara holding her mother after she dies but you take what you can get.
No... you really don't...
Blame that on Darkhorse comics!
But yeah. I think Benezia's death was pretty bad. It certainly one of those areas where almost every aspect of making a good scene failed.
Same with the aftermath, where Liara's over it. Or simply believes you're the good guy if you pick her up after killing her mother.
Modifié par EsterCloat, 10 juin 2011 - 11:55 .
EsterCloat wrote...
Like why Liara needs Lift Orbs, which are apparently grenades that cause enemies to be affected by Lift, when she can just use Lift? This literally just hit me.
How many points did it look like she had in it? Maybe she had started out as an Asari Scientist but took one of those branching paths and it turned into Biotic Training or something. Or maybe it's just one of those things they'll need to work on before it comes out.azarhal wrote...
EsterCloat wrote...
Like why Liara needs Lift Orbs, which are apparently grenades that cause enemies to be affected by Lift, when she can just use Lift? This literally just hit me.
Lift Orbs are "grenades". O_o
Personally, I'm wondering why she have Biotic Training and not Asari Scientist when Garrus still have Turian Rebel.
Modifié par EsterCloat, 11 juin 2011 - 12:16 .
TMA LIVE wrote...
Same with the aftermath, where Liara's over it. Or simply believes you're the good guy if you pick her up after killing her mother.
Well, there's always fanfiction. Maybe I should try my hand at writing something.Lizardviking wrote...
TMA LIVE wrote...
Same with the aftermath, where Liara's over it. Or simply believes you're the good guy if you pick her up after killing her mother.
Yeah.
While I think how maturely Liara handled her own mother's death was a strong moment. I wish we could see more of the process. But that would of-course never happen because ME is a game that follows Shepard.
Would be nice if we could get an insight from Liara on how she handled it. From the confrontation to the aftermath. She might have had a small moment of weakness when she was alone.
EsterCloat wrote...
Well, there's always fanfiction. Maybe I should try my hand at writing something.
Naw, I'd probably mangle the characterization.
Well, maybe I'll try just one chapter. Just to see how I'd do...
Sounds like a good idea to me. Me likey.Lizardviking wrote...
What would you guys think would work best for a fanfiction about the Illium cameo?
My current idea is to start in medias res during the Horizon cameo. I belive this because I feel that it would be necesary to explore and explain Shepard's state of mind and how he is before reaching Illium. Or else people will either feel confused or not have any sympathy or understanding for why Shepard will act as he does later. Both situations would be bad, but the latter would be worse since it would screw with what I wish to tell.
After Horizon (debriefings and all that) it would move foward to Illium itself. Possible switching to Liara's viewpoint and how she hears the news of the attack on Horizon and knowing that Shepard will undoubtetly come to Illium soon.
Once both Shepard and Liara meet I plan to have each stage of the cameo (meeting and hacking data / Observer list / death of Nyxeris and end) be one day. Or atleast have a pause between them so they do not happen immedieatly after each other. The viewpoint would switch between Liara and Shepard thoughout this part.
I know I might have not explained it well enough but I hope people find it to be an okay idea.
ladyvader wrote...
Sounds like a good idea to me. Me likey.Lizardviking wrote...
What would you guys think would work best for a fanfiction about the Illium cameo?
My current idea is to start in medias res during the Horizon cameo. I belive this because I feel that it would be necesary to explore and explain Shepard's state of mind and how he is before reaching Illium. Or else people will either feel confused or not have any sympathy or understanding for why Shepard will act as he does later. Both situations would be bad, but the latter would be worse since it would screw with what I wish to tell.
After Horizon (debriefings and all that) it would move foward to Illium itself. Possible switching to Liara's viewpoint and how she hears the news of the attack on Horizon and knowing that Shepard will undoubtetly come to Illium soon.
Once both Shepard and Liara meet I plan to have each stage of the cameo (meeting and hacking data / Observer list / death of Nyxeris and end) be one day. Or atleast have a pause between them so they do not happen immedieatly after each other. The viewpoint would switch between Liara and Shepard thoughout this part.
I know I might have not explained it well enough but I hope people find it to be an okay idea.
Modifié par Lizardviking, 11 juin 2011 - 03:12 .
I have finished writing Aftermath, but I have only put two of the 15 chapters online. Right now I am working on a story where Shepard tries to get Liara and Aethyta together. I have two paragrahs written and not sure where to go from there. =]So, I understand what your going through.Lizardviking wrote...
ladyvader wrote...
Sounds like a good idea to me. Me likey.Lizardviking wrote...
What would you guys think would work best for a fanfiction about the Illium cameo?
My current idea is to start in medias res during the Horizon cameo. I belive this because I feel that it would be necesary to explore and explain Shepard's state of mind and how he is before reaching Illium. Or else people will either feel confused or not have any sympathy or understanding for why Shepard will act as he does later. Both situations would be bad, but the latter would be worse since it would screw with what I wish to tell.
After Horizon (debriefings and all that) it would move foward to Illium itself. Possible switching to Liara's viewpoint and how she hears the news of the attack on Horizon and knowing that Shepard will undoubtetly come to Illium soon.
Once both Shepard and Liara meet I plan to have each stage of the cameo (meeting and hacking data / Observer list / death of Nyxeris and end) be one day. Or atleast have a pause between them so they do not happen immedieatly after each other. The viewpoint would switch between Liara and Shepard thoughout this part.
I know I might have not explained it well enough but I hope people find it to be an okay idea.
Thanks. But the idea of writing something larger than just a small monologue just seems overwhelming to me.
Modifié par ladyvader, 11 juin 2011 - 03:23 .
ladyvader wrote...
I have finished writing Aftermath, but I have only put two of the 15 chapters online. Right now I am working on a story where Shepard tries to get Liara and Aethyta together. I have two paragrahs written and not sure where to go from there. =]So, I understand what your going through.
That is a good question. I have a lot of thoughts in my head and I just started putting them to paper so to speak. A lot of my Aftermath story, I had floating around for months before I got the nerve to actually write it down. That story is 55 pages on my open office word document and I wrote it in less than two weeks.Lizardviking wrote...
ladyvader wrote...
I have finished writing Aftermath, but I have only put two of the 15 chapters online. Right now I am working on a story where Shepard tries to get Liara and Aethyta together. I have two paragrahs written and not sure where to go from there. =]So, I understand what your going through.
I just wonder. How do you handle writing a story over a longer time. It seems that if you stop then you just lose the thread so to speak. And when you continue later it just seems impossible to write more.
ladyvader wrote...
That is a good question. I have a lot of thoughts in my head and I just started putting them to paper so to speak. A lot of my Aftermath story, I had floating around for months before I got the nerve to actually write it down. That story is 55 pages on my open office word document and I wrote it in less than two weeks.Lizardviking wrote...
ladyvader wrote...
I have finished writing Aftermath, but I have only put two of the 15 chapters online. Right now I am working on a story where Shepard tries to get Liara and Aethyta together. I have two paragrahs written and not sure where to go from there. =]So, I understand what your going through.
I just wonder. How do you handle writing a story over a longer time. It seems that if you stop then you just lose the thread so to speak. And when you continue later it just seems impossible to write more.
I don't work, so I have plenty of time for my thoughts. It seems to me once my creative juices start flowing, they flow naturally. It when I have to actually make myself write is when I have problems.
I am at that point with what I am working on right now. Not sure if it will get finished or not. I have the document open all day and I have written a total of three sentences. Where my first story I wrote three chapters in one day. My biggest problem right now is where to take it. It's hard for me to put it down, which I will try to make it hard for Shepard to actually talk to Aethyta or have Shepard feel awkward about it. Which might make it a better story, who knows.Lizardviking wrote...
ladyvader wrote...
That is a good question. I have a lot of thoughts in my head and I just started putting them to paper so to speak. A lot of my Aftermath story, I had floating around for months before I got the nerve to actually write it down. That story is 55 pages on my open office word document and I wrote it in less than two weeks.Lizardviking wrote...
ladyvader wrote...
I have finished writing Aftermath, but I have only put two of the 15 chapters online. Right now I am working on a story where Shepard tries to get Liara and Aethyta together. I have two paragrahs written and not sure where to go from there. =]So, I understand what your going through.
I just wonder. How do you handle writing a story over a longer time. It seems that if you stop then you just lose the thread so to speak. And when you continue later it just seems impossible to write more.
I don't work, so I have plenty of time for my thoughts. It seems to me once my creative juices start flowing, they flow naturally. It when I have to actually make myself write is when I have problems.
That is my problem. I have all these great (or what I feel is great) ideas running around in my head. It is just when I open the writing program that I get stuck. I usually spend a few hours before I get angry for not getting any results and I ragequit!
ladyvader wrote...
I am at that point with what I am working on right now. Not sure if it will get finished or not. I have the document open all day and I have written a total of three sentences. Where my first story I wrote three chapters in one day. My biggest problem right now is where to take it. It's hard for me to put it down, which I will try to make it hard for Shepard to actually talk to Aethyta or have Shepard feel awkward about it. Which might make it a better story, who knows.
Thanks, I think I will need it.Lizardviking wrote...
ladyvader wrote...
I am at that point with what I am working on right now. Not sure if it will get finished or not. I have the document open all day and I have written a total of three sentences. Where my first story I wrote three chapters in one day. My biggest problem right now is where to take it. It's hard for me to put it down, which I will try to make it hard for Shepard to actually talk to Aethyta or have Shepard feel awkward about it. Which might make it a better story, who knows.
Whatever you do. Good luck.
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