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[TheMarshal]

Wow, that's a pretty meaty demo.

[Shadow_Soul]

Here you all go. This is for the FemShep/Liara fans. Feedback is very welcome. Leave me your thoughts.

http://social.biowar...631/blog/12290/

[jlb524]

Shadow_Soul wrote...

Here you all go. This is for the FemShep/Liara fans. Feedback is very welcome. Leave me your thoughts.

http://social.biowar...631/blog/12290/

I like.  It's sad though

[Aedan_Cousland]

Just saw Tron tonight, and if a Mass Effect movie ever gets made I think Olivia Wilde would be perfect as Liara.

[jlb524]

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

Just saw Tron tonight, and if a Mass Effect movie ever gets made I think Olivia Wilde would be perfect as Liara.

Heheee, though I like Olivia Wilde I'm opposed to a Mass Effect movie for a few reasons.

1)  Liara isn't going to be Liara unless she's voiced by Ali Hillis. Don't care who they get to play her...it just won't be the same.  The voice makes it.

2) The Shepard in the movie won't be my Shepard, and will make decisions that aren't my own. 

So I just can't get into it or the idea of it.

[m4pneub08]

jlb524 wrote...

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

Just saw Tron tonight, and if a Mass Effect movie ever gets made I think Olivia Wilde would be perfect as Liara.

Heheee, though I like Olivia Wilde I'm opposed to a Mass Effect movie for a few reasons.

1)  Liara isn't going to be Liara unless she's voiced by Ali Hillis. Don't care who they get to play her...it just won't be the same.  The voice makes it.

2) The Shepard in the movie won't be my Shepard, and will make decisions that aren't my own. 

So I just can't get into it or the idea of it.

I said these exact words to someone when they brought it up to me. Everyone knows I love Mass Effect, so they bring it up and are really surprised when I tell them I'm not excited for it.  

I really just can't get into the idea of it.  Now, the books take place during events that happen within the ME universe, and I MIGHT be able to get behind a movie that takes place somewhere in the galaxy within the realm created by ME.  But the movie cannot be based on Shepard's story, because that story belongs to all of us, which makes ME so great to begin with.

[JediMB]

I mentioned to a friend that I think Mass Effect could work as an animated series, where the episodes either took place during Shepard's downtime between ME1 and ME2, or simply focused on the crew/squad members and kept Shepard as a minor background character.

[Captain Iglo]

I try to see the movie as another fanfic.



And who knows, Ali hillis also is an actress...they might give her a casting call.

[pacer90]

As long as they keep the characters in character for the movie i have no problem with it. Like iglo said it'll just be another fan fic.

what i will e-rage over is if they try to make liara a super-busty alien hottie or something. Or wrex as an over the top badass that's always in a blood frenzy, instead of his cool calm badass-ness.

Modifié par pacer90, 22 décembre 2010 - 03:35 .

[The Unfallen]

Liara T'Soni ftw!

[pacer90]

Nope, for the simple fact that Liara didn't seem to trust anyone. All it took was a speculative conclusion for Liara, without waiting for Shepard, just called in Nyxeris and offed her.



Also I would like to second the motion that Liara T'Soni is indeed "FTW".

[TheMarshal]

jlb524 wrote...

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

Just saw Tron tonight, and if a Mass Effect movie ever gets made I think Olivia Wilde would be perfect as Liara.

Heheee, though I like Olivia Wilde I'm opposed to a Mass Effect movie for a few reasons.

1)  Liara isn't going to be Liara unless she's voiced by Ali Hillis. Don't care who they get to play her...it just won't be the same.  The voice makes it.

2) The Shepard in the movie won't be my Shepard, and will make decisions that aren't my own. 

So I just can't get into it or the idea of it.

Pretty much exactly what I've been saying.  I might see it just to support the effort, but I couldn't possibly enjoy it to the same extent that I would the game.

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Anyway, do you guys think that Liara trusted Nyxeris? Prior to the revelation that she was a double agent working for the Shadow Broker, do you think Liara perhaps considered Nyxeris to be a friend?

Considering the fact that Liara allowed Nyxeris to investigate and compile the list of Observer suspects, and also allowed her to be present whenever she was planning and coordinating her next method of attacking the Shadow Broker, I think Liara trusted Nyxeris, and there's also the chance that the two may have been friends. I think the discovery of Nyxeris' true identity as a Shadow Broker double agent would have been something that Liara did not expect, but she would have also not been too surprised considering the nature of the profession, and her hunt for the Shadow Broker. Liara was obviously expecting herself to become an target, as evidenced by the fact that she reinforced her apartment windows with kinetic barriers.

I don't think Liara truly trusted her (Liara does mention that Shepard is the only one she can trust).  However, she may have trusted her with some minor things.

I'm sure the pair were friendly, but I doubt they were friends.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

I don't think there were much of a friendship going on between Liara and Nyxeris. At best it was a friendly but proffesional relationship. Liara also didn't seem to have much trouble executing Nyxeris right then and there.

[pacer90]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

pacer90 wrote...

Nope, for the simple fact that Liara didn't seem to trust anyone. All it took was a speculative conclusion for Liara, without waiting for Shepard, just called in Nyxeris and offed her.

I think a certain degree of gameplay are lore distinction should be applied here, though. In-universe, I think the evidence was supposed to be pretty conclusive. However, the writers and designers were limited by the simplicity of the hacking mini-games, and had to consequently restrict the complexity of Liara's conclusions and reasoning's regarding the Observer's identity.

Hell, Shepard's first instinct is to suspect the individual who provided Liara with the information. I think the evidence is intended to be pretty conclusive.

It was actually Shepard's first instinct that led me to think as I did. He has no reason to trust, like or otherwise have any feelings about Nyxeris.

Liara acted as if she had the same level of relationship with Nyxeris as Shepard did, at least in my opinion. But you are right regardless, the relationship is hard to discern with such a limited mini-game as the only vehicle to really explore it.

[TheMarshal]

In your guys' opinion, post ME3 (assuming, you know, the galaxy gets saved), what will Liara do? Will she give up her life as the Shadow Broker? Will she do so but remain an information dealer? Will she just drop everything and join Shepard on the Normandy? Will she join Jack and Shepard and the three of them become space pirates?



I'm inclined to say that Liara, while devoted to Shepard, wouldn't necessarily just drop everything she's worked for just so they would be together. But my reasoning is mostly based around how a human would feel, namely that they've only got one life to live and wouldn't necessarily want to give it up just to be with someone. But would an Asari feel the same way?

[jlb524]

TheMarshal wrote...

In your guys' opinion, post ME3 (assuming, you know, the galaxy gets saved), what will Liara do? Will she give up her life as the Shadow Broker? Will she do so but remain an information dealer? Will she just drop everything and join Shepard on the Normandy? Will she join Jack and Shepard and the three of them become space pirates?

I'm inclined to say that Liara, while devoted to Shepard, wouldn't necessarily just drop everything she's worked for just so they would be together. But my reasoning is mostly based around how a human would feel, namely that they've only got one life to live and wouldn't necessarily want to give it up just to be with someone. But would an Asari feel the same way?

I think there's a difference here b/c Liara will out-live Shepard by centuries.  Liara really isn't giving up her life for Shepard and could always return to the information field (or archaeology) after Shepard passes.

I hope that Liara and my Shepard to travel the galaxy together after ME3 as tourists, basically.  While both have seen a great bit of the galaxy, they really didn't get to enjoy it as they were serving in the Alliance or working at a dig site.  Then, eventually they can relax and settle down somewhere.  It's possible Liara can install a temporary Shadow Broker and assist them remotely.  This is my desire at least.

I just hope Shepard doesn't have to keep on working and can retire...hopefully saving the galaxy will enable this and someone will give her a large sum of credits as thanks

[TheMarshal]

In my mind, my Shepard wouldn't be able to give up the mantle of "hero" quite so easily. Or at the very least there would be others who make sure she is constantly called in to action, even after the events of ME3. I still think that Liara would want to remain in a position to help, and wouldn't give up the Shadow Broker role. Or at the very least, remain in a position to deal in information, simply because data has been such a big part of her life for so long (at least as I see it). Of course, with the role of the Shadow Broker remaining a mystery to all but a few, it would be pretty easy to take "shifts" with a certain Drell who owes her his life...

[TMA LIVE]

jlb524 wrote...

I think there's a difference here b/c Liara will out-live Shepard by centuries.  Liara really isn't giving up her life for Shepard and could always return to the information field (or archaeology) after Shepard passes.

Considering Shepard is going to die one day, what would happen if Liara didn't want the relationship for that very reason? What if she wanted it to end, so she won't have to delay the pain? What would you say to change her mind?

[TheMarshal]

TMA LIVE wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I think there's a difference here b/c Liara will out-live Shepard by centuries.  Liara really isn't giving up her life for Shepard and could always return to the information field (or archaeology) after Shepard passes.

Considering Shepard is going to die one day, what would happen if Liara didn't want the relationship for that very reason? What if she wanted it to end, so she won't have to delay the pain? What would you say to change her mind?

I gotta imagine that, culturally speaking, a race of people who live as long as the Asari do, and frequently find mates with other shorter-lived races would be pretty accepting of changing their life to accommodate a partner.  That said, to me it would still seem weird if Liara actually did that, but I may just be humanizing her.

[TheMarshal]

I'm inclined to agree, Les. I think that she'd probably relenquish her role as the (primary) Shadow Broker once things have settled down, but I doubt she'd want to give it up completely.



Right now her life seems so centered around Shepard it's hard to think of her as a person on her own. It pains me to think of her life post-Shepard... but what WOULD she do if left to her own devices? Presumably she and Shepard would have had at least one "little blue baby" (one so far, where my headcanon is at). What would their relationship be like? The daughter of two of the most famous/infamous people in the galaxy...