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Liara T'Soni Character Discussion Thread *possible ME3 spoilers*


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Everything's online shopping it seems, so I don't think she'll have any problems. Especially since she's the Shadow Broker.



But anyways, I really do want to know if asari have any holidays that were adopted by anyone. The only one I can find is Janiris.



http://www.cerberusdailynews.com/?p=69

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TMA LIVE wrote...

Everything's online shopping it seems, so I don't think she'll have any problems. Especially since she's the Shadow Broker.

But anyways, I really do want to know if asari have any holidays that were adopted by anyone. The only one I can find is Janiris.

http://www.cerberusdailynews.com/?p=69


*pictures Shepard in a flower wreath*

I like that the Chicago river was dyed blue instead of green for the asari holiday.  There seems to be a lot of acceptance and crossover of asari and human holidays by both species.

I also find it odd that asari would have fertility rituals, as procreations seems to be a purely mental act, but whatevs.

Modifié par jlb524, 24 décembre 2010 - 02:32 .


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On this note, I've always felt the benefits from asari/non-asari pairings weren't genetic (as that's a mess to figure out anyway) but cultural. The asari daughter would not only learn the customs of asari, but also the customs of a non-asari culture. I feel this is the best way for a young asari to understand and then empathize with another culture. I feel this is more powerful than anything that may be passed on genetically. In turn, this could give the young asari a better appreciation of all cultures that aren't her own or of the other parents.

Any potential Shepard/Liara offspring would experience being raised by both an asari and a human and would gain a better understanding of both. The fact that they are raised in a multi-cultural household could then lead to her also being more accepting and aware of other cultures, even non-asari or non-human, in this case.

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jlb524 wrote...
I also find it odd that asari would have fertility rituals, as procreations seems to be a purely mental act, but whatevs.

Sexual gratification seems to be dependent on the mental factors, but fertility itself is still a biological process. Makes you wonder how an asari deems a melding to be solely for pleasure or for procreation, assuming they had some conscious control over it. If they could directly influence when their body was ready for pregnancy, a fertility ritual seems appropriate to signify the act.

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jlb524 wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Liara strikes me as someone who would find joy in providing gifts to others. Trying to find a gift that is perfectly in tune with someone else's needs, especially if the person didn't even realize they needed it, just strikes me as a very archeological thing to do.


It's archaeological to delve into another's psyche, analyzing all the data provided in order to determine the perfect gift for them?  Then, yes, I agree XD


Oddly, I was thinking forensic science myself, then I remembered the line from The Flash when Barry relates to Dr. McGee about how he switched majors to please his police officer dad from archaelogy:  "What is working in the crime lab, if not part archaelogist and part cop?"  (As an off-off-topic aside, remember that his job was considered lame in-continuity then?  Amazing how times change.  But I digress.)

To use syllogism on that, if forensic science is derived from archaeology in a physical sense, forensic interviewing and forensic psychology are also related.  And from the standpoint of Liara's current and recent former jobs, both in the information business, she herself equated it to archaeology, with a bit of pride in her expression, though when she says "except the bodies still smell" the pride melts off of her face...:?

But to put all the information she knows about someone together and piece together what they'd want better than the people themselves, that sounds not only fun for her but the same kind of fun she was having with being an information broker.  Just less smelly :P.

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jlb524 wrote...

On this note, I've always felt the benefits from asari/non-asari pairings weren't genetic (as that's a mess to figure out anyway) but cultural. The asari daughter would not only learn the customs of asari, but also the customs of a non-asari culture. I feel this is the best way for a young asari to understand and then empathize with another culture. I feel this is more powerful than anything that may be passed on genetically. In turn, this could give the young asari a better appreciation of all cultures that aren't her own or of the other parents.

Any potential Shepard/Liara offspring would experience being raised by both an asari and a human and would gain a better understanding of both. The fact that they are raised in a multi-cultural household could then lead to her also being more accepting and aware of other cultures, even non-asari or non-human, in this case.


Yeah, by having younger asari experience different cultures by being created and raised by a partner culture, it would allow them to have a better knowledge and understanding, and not fall into something like racism. Example, the asari students who dressed up as human tyrants and murderers.

http://www.cerberusd...news.com/?p=117

However, the backlash from this was the pure blood thing, which happened.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 24 décembre 2010 - 03:23 .


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Actually, since Liara is the Shadow Broker, she probably might try and abuse her power, and dig deep into what people gave to Shepard in the past, to learn what worked and what didn't. Example, what did his parents buy him, based off receipts in computers, etc.

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I honestly don't think Liara would waste her time delving into such personal details of that magnitude. She's got her eye on the big picture.



Now Mordin totally would get power mad because he was born to be an evil genius and has merely been fighting his destiny all his life, but this is not the Mordin thread.

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Pacifien wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
I also find it odd that asari would have fertility rituals, as procreations seems to be a purely mental act, but whatevs.

Sexual gratification seems to be dependent on the mental factors, but fertility itself is still a biological process. Makes you wonder how an asari deems a melding to be solely for pleasure or for procreation, assuming they had some conscious control over it. If they could directly influence when their body was ready for pregnancy, a fertility ritual seems appropriate to signify the act.


I was just thinking that purely biological procreation seems random and rituals would be made to help drive it along and get it to happen, so to speak.  I always felt that asari procreation wasn't as random so that element wouldn't come into play.

Now, what you say is that they'd want to celebrate the act when it occurs with a ritual, then I agree. I was just under the belief that humans use fertility rituals to 'beg the gods or goddesses' for a child but not to celebrate the act of procreation itself.

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I believe that university incident is based off something that happened at my old uni, though the intentions were far more light hearted than that.



Anyway... I'm hankering to do a photoshop for the liara thread for christmas day. Any suggestions/requests?

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Pacifien wrote...

I honestly don't think Liara would waste her time delving into such personal details of that magnitude. She's got her eye on the big picture.

Now Mordin totally would get power mad because he was born to be an evil genius and has merely been fighting his destiny all his life, but this is not the Mordin thread.


Yeah. Like how Mordin knows your with someone, and has advice guides, diagrams, and relationship vids already prepared for you.

Anyways, so how would Shepard and Liara try to celebrate the holidays, with her being on her ship, and Shepard being away on his? Would they have to receive gifts at the nearest port?

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Yeah, by having younger asari experiencing different cultures by being created and raised by a partner culture, it would allow them to have a better knowledge and understanding, and not fall into something like racism. Example, the asari students who dressed up as human tyrants and murderers.

http://www.cerberusd...news.com/?p=117

However, the backlash from this was the pure blood thing, which happened.


Yes, I think it more likely that a pure blood would be racist about others, though, there are exceptions (like Liara).

But I feel that Liara was alienated from her own culture due to her being expected to follow her mother and the pureblood thing, so she doesn't have the personal motivations to place her own culture above others, as with some other asari and other pure bloods.

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pacer90 wrote...

Anyway... I'm hankering to do a photoshop for the liara thread for christmas day. Any suggestions/requests?


I did this one:

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I think Liara in a santa hat is always good XD

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I would like to see Liara in a santa's helper outfit. :P

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jlb524 wrote...

Yes, I think it more likely that a pure blood would be racist about others, though, there are exceptions (like Liara).

But I feel that Liara was alienated from her own culture due to her being expected to follow her mother and the pureblood thing, so she doesn't have the personal motivations to place her own culture above others, as with some other asari and other pure bloods.


Yeah, I don't think she'd try to have any prejudice with any culture, since she wasn't even accepted among her own. Maybe apart of her thought other cultures were better, and believed she could gain more acceptance from them. It may also be another reason why she wanted to study a culture, even if it was a dead one.

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Pacifien wrote...

I would like to see Liara in a santa's helper outfit. :P


Yeah, Liara would look better with a green elf hat XD

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Yeah, I don't think she'd try to have any prejudice with any culture, since she wasn't even accepted among her own. Maybe apart of her thought other cultures were better, and believed she could gain more acceptance from them. It may also be another reason why she wanted to study a culture, even if it was a dead one.


Possibly...interesting point.

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Pacifien wrote...

I would like to see Liara in a santa's helper outfit. :P


You and everyone else in this thread ^_^

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pacer90 wrote...

I believe that university incident is based off something that happened at my old uni, though the intentions were far more light hearted than that.

Anyway... I'm hankering to do a photoshop for the liara thread for christmas day. Any suggestions/requests?


I've got plenty of ideas for Liara fanart, but can't think of anything Christmas-themed...

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http://www.fanfictio...6431630/13/Duet

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For those who care about such things, the next chapter of Persistence of Memory is up.

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Beautiful picture, bjd! Very festive and romantic. Great work! I could just picture Shepard and Liara gently kissing each other under the mistletoe,

jtav wrote...

For those who care about such things, the next chapter of Persistence of Memory is up.


Beautiful work, and I'm eagerly awaiting the next chapter, jtav. Nice job!

Anyway, regarding the recent discussion relating to possible cultural influences imposed on the daughter of an asari/alien pairing, I've always believed that the asari daughter would benefit from being exposed to the two differing cultures, and that the asari species and its society is enriched as a result. Within my own headcanon, Shepard and Liara will raise their daughters together on both Earth and Thessia, alternating between the two planets in order to have their children exposed to both species' respective cultures.

As mentioned above, I think that's the true beauty of a xenophilic relationship with an asari. Through cultural assimilation and integration, the asari are able to peacefully coexist with the galaxy's other species, and individuals and groups are able to appreciate the traditions and customs of other races. Any supposed genetic benefit is irrelevant, and it's the cultural and social gains that are more notable and preferable.

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jtav wrote...

For those who care about such things, the next chapter of Persistence of Memory is up.


Excellent.

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http://www.fanfictio...6431630/13/Duet


Excellent.


Now I need to get my own fan fic updated.  :D

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Nice pic, bjd!

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As mentioned above, I think that's the true beauty of a xenophilic relationship with an asari. Through cultural assimilation and integration, the asari are able to peacefully coexist with the galaxy's other species, and individuals and groups are able to appreciate the traditions and customs of other races. Any supposed genetic benefit is irrelevant, and it's the cultural and social gains that are more notable and preferable.


Uh huh.

Which is why I don't like getting bogged down with the genetics...I don't think it's that big of a deal anyways.