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[jlb524]

Lizardviking wrote...

So how should Liara's first apperance be in ME3?

If the "Shepard is a convicct" theory is how ME3 starts should Liara be seen going all guns blazing to rescue Shepard. Perhaps leading her own squad of asari commandos.

Or perhaps it would be over some sort of long distance communication ala first meeting with TIM. Maybe we should meet her in person on Halgalaz.

I like the 'Liara rescues Shepard' opening.  We might find out more this upcoming year when we get more info on ME3.  It's likely Liara will be one of the first non-Shepard characters shown off in vids or screen shots, given her plot armor.  It could also be something way out there that we never could think of.

TheMarshal wrote...

Liara is the Hermione Granger of Mass Effect.

Yes, indeed.

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Collider wrote...

Felt OOC for Liara. In any case, I'm sure the guards will have something to worry about when confronted by Liara.

Didn't find it OOC. Liara had perhaps not fully figured out the whole "threathning and indtimidation" buisness yet, so she stole a line from her mom.

From another perspective. Bioware proberly added it so our first impresion of the new Liara was jarring. Or something to that effect.

[jlb524]

Collider wrote...

Felt OOC for Liara. In any case, I'm sure the guards will have something to worry about when confronted by Liara.

It seems OOC but I feel the line was a bit forced and Liara was basically mimicking her mother, so I'm fine with it.  Liara lacked proper threats herself.

But yeah, Liara herself could easily take on a handful of prison guards, using some of her agents to break into the prison.

[Fiery Phoenix]

In answer to Lizard's question, assuming the imprisonment theory turns out to be reality (which I'm 99% sure it will), it would make sense for Liara to be one of the "rescue team", in which case that would be her first appearance in ME3.

[jlb524]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

In answer to Lizard's question, assuming the imprisonment theory turns out to be reality (which I'm 99% sure it will), it would make sense for Liara to be one of the "rescue team", in which case that would be her first appearance in ME3.

Wow, you're pretty certain

I really like the imprisonment theory, and not just b/c Liara will most likely be the on leading the rescue, though that is awesome.  It gives them a good excuse to explain why Shepard's abilities have been reset and avoids reusing the death thing (which I didn't like in the first place).

[jlb524]

That's possible. Or, Shepard might have already been captured, but The Illusive Man isn't aware of it.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I like the idea of Liara rescuing an incarcerated Shepard at the beginning of ME3, which would obviously function as her introduction into the game itself.

I wonder if this would be related the fact that Shepard has dropped off the grid during the events of Retribution? In order to evade capture, Shepard decides to hide at Liara's base, whilst simultaneously planning and coordinating their next course of action in preparing for the forthcoming Reaper war.

I think if the council and alliance is after Shepard, Halgalaz in one of the few safe havens for Shepard to be in.

[TheMarshal]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I never thought that Liara's utterance of Benezia's threat on Noveria was particularly OOC at all. As has been explained above, I think Liara felt it necessary to utilise a threat that she had heard used by her mother, due to the fact that she's not really capable of being convincingly intimidating herself.

The manner in which Liara exclaims Shepard's name in surprise immediately afterwards showcases that it was merely a facade adopted in order to deal with that specific client. I don't think there's anything OOC about it.

Given the change in her voice from when she delivers the threat and when she hears Shepard has come to see her, it's pretty obvious that it's a facade.

Unless of course you're me, and you're still freaking out wondering what the hell happened to your sweet little Liara.



Also: Where are we getting the info that Shepard has been captured at the beginning of ME3?

Modifié par TheMarshal, 30 décembre 2010 - 05:18 .

[jlb524]

One thing I like most about Liara's ME2 romance arc is that it is one of the few that actually address the issue of Shepard's death and how it affected Liara/Shepard.



It's also touched upon in the Ash/Kaidan Horizon reunion and in emails.



I don't recall really seeing it brought up with the ME2 LIs, though, I've only seen vids on youtube of these romances.

[jlb524]

TheMarshal wrote...

Also: Where are we getting the info that Shepard has been captured at the beginning of ME3?

It's just a theory proposed by a forum member.  It makes the most sense, as far as explaining why Shepard is level one again while avoiding the whole 'death' thing again.

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jlb524 wrote...

One thing I like most about Liara's ME2 romance arc is that it is one of the few that actually address the issue of Shepard's death and how it affected Liara/Shepard.

It's also touched upon in the Ash/Kaidan Horizon reunion and in emails.

I don't recall really seeing it brought up with the ME2 LIs, though, I've only seen vids on youtube of these romances.

A good point. LOTSB did a good job trying to address the fact that Shepard died, and how it affected people (one atleast).

And while ME2-maingame already mentioned Horizon, it was a nice thing for it to be mentioned one more time.

[jwalker]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I like the idea of Liara rescuing an incarcerated Shepard at the beginning of ME3, which would obviously function as her introduction into the game itself.

That would be lovely <3

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
I wonder if this would be related the fact that Shepard has dropped off the grid during the events of Retribution? In order to evade capture, Shepard decides to hide at Liara's base, whilst simultaneously planning and coordinating their next course of action in preparing for the forthcoming Reaper war.

I haven't read Retribution. Does it say if Shepard kept or destroyed the Collector base ?

[jlb524]

jwalker wrote...

I haven't read Retribution. Does it say if Shepard kept or destroyed the Collector base ?

It's vague...doesn't say either.

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jwalker wrote...

I haven't read Retribution. Does it say if Shepard kept or destroyed the Collector base ?

Don't have the book myself but according to people it mentioned "salvage" from the collector operations which could imply what they managed to recover from the preserved base so far, or what they managed to get from the ruins in the galatic core.

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Do you think Taz, from Redemption will be working for Liara? Because I'd like Bioware to bring him in the games. I think it'd be neat if he tried to dethrone her.

I never saw Tazzik to be more than a generic mercenary whom they used to fill a certain gap in Redemption. I was surprised to see many seemed to expect him to make an appearance in LOTSB. Feron was the only Redemption character that I knew was important, and look how that turned out. I wasn't even surprised to see him in LOTSB because I was almost certain I would.

I liked him because most Salarians are thin, and more tech experts. While this guy was HUGE, mean, and armed with a gernade laucher. He also had these crazy facial expressions.

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jwalker wrote...

I haven't read Retribution. Does it say if Shepard kept or destroyed the Collector base ?

It's vague. All you know is that Cerberus was able to get something form "that" base. Considering the Shadow Broker thinks he could do the same, despite it being blow up, there's nothing confirm either choice. 

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jlb524 wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...

Also: Where are we getting the info that Shepard has been captured at the beginning of ME3?

It's just a theory proposed by a forum member.  It makes the most sense, as far as explaining why Shepard is level one again while avoiding the whole 'death' thing again.

There's a possiblility you won't be sent to zero in ME3. So hopefully, Shepard won't have to start from scatch again. 

[TheMarshal]

TMA LIVE wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

TheMarshal wrote...

Also: Where are we getting the info that Shepard has been captured at the beginning of ME3?

It's just a theory proposed by a forum member.  It makes the most sense, as far as explaining why Shepard is level one again while avoiding the whole 'death' thing again.

There's a possiblility you won't be sent to zero in ME3. So hopefully, Shepard won't have to start from scatch again. 

You think ME3 will start out with a Baldur's Gate II-style beginning, where you're already at level X with level-appropriate skills/gear (even without an imported save)?

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I thought the reason you only went to level 30 instead of 60 like ME1 was because you're going from 31-60 in ME3.



Regardless, an opening that involves Liara coming to help Shepard would be awesome. They'd be even then, 2 times saving each other's lives.

[jwalker]

TMA LIVE wrote...

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There's a possiblility you won't be sent to zero in ME3. So hopefully, Shepard won't have to start from scatch again. 

That could be a problem from a gameplay perspective. If your Shepard starts at level 30 and they increase the level gap to 60 or something, they would have to add another 5 or 6 skills per class. That probably means a new cooldown system, and a nightmare to balancing 'old' and new powers. And if I'm not mistaken, xbox players already have problems mapping keys to more than 2 or 3 skills.

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Above all else, I just want Liara's character to be given its due, and the development and quality writing that both she and her romance deserve.

Specifically, what would that entail for you?