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[TMA LIVE]

jwalker wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

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There's a possiblility you won't be sent to zero in ME3. So hopefully, Shepard won't have to start from scatch again. 

That could be a problem from a gameplay perspective. If your Shepard starts at level 30 and they increase the level gap to 60 or something, they would have to add another 5 or 6 skills per class. That probably means a new cooldown system, and a nightmare to balancing 'old' and new powers. And if I'm not mistaken, xbox players already have problems mapping keys to more than 2 or 3 skills.

I think they'll have a new skill tree, but the number of points will be that of a level 20 if you imported. Or maybe they'll do something like they did with .hack.

TheMarshal wrote...

You think ME3 will start out with a Baldur's Gate II-style beginning, where you're already at level X with level-appropriate skills/gear (even without an imported save)?

Yeah, something like that. One of the Bioware Doctor's said it was a possibility.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 30 décembre 2010 - 06:53 .

[TMA LIVE]

Collider wrote...

Felt OOC for Liara. In any case, I'm sure the guards will have something to worry about when confronted by Liara.

I wouldn't say it was out of character, since this is from someone 2 years later. Out of character from the ME1 Liara, yes, since she'd never threaten someone like that. It's jarring though, as it's meant to be, showing that people have changed, despite you being the same.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 30 décembre 2010 - 07:05 .

[jlb524]

I have nothing to add to that.

What I don't want is:

• Liara to become corrupted by power (as you mentioned) making her another 'weak women that can't handle the pressure so she breaks and someone must save her blah blah blah'.   They've done this tired cliche befoer with Aribastila...DO NOT WANT for Liara.
• An unavoidable death for Liara.  Especially if linked to her become 'corrupted' and Shepard has to stop her *see number 1*
• Liara becoming Indoctrinated.  This is just the same as number 1 for me and equally as stupid.
• Liara turning on Shepard in any capacity, really or needing 'saved' from herself.

Anything else would be gravy.

Modifié par jlb524, 30 décembre 2010 - 07:15 .

[TMA LIVE]

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 30 décembre 2010 - 07:36 .

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Indeed. Though, I believe Liara's dialogue in LotSB when Shepard asks her about this couldn't be any more transparent. It was as if the writers were confirming to the player that Liara would not be subjected to such a tired, cliched and vaguely offensive piece of nonsense via her character itself.

I hope you are right or I will nerd rage like no nerd has ever raged before!

[jlb524]

Yes, except I would also have ears with steam coming out of them...and I'd be red in color.

[TMA LIVE]

I just hope the romance isn't just, "Hey Shepard (kiss). Now go save the galaxy!", 40 hours later, "Hey Shepard! Let's have a fade to black romance scene!" The end.

I can deal with Liara being corrupted or Indoctrinated as long as it's written well, and serves a purpose beyond ###### me off. What I don't want is barely any character development. I want the romance or friendship to keep growing, evolving, and tested.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 30 décembre 2010 - 07:52 .

[jlb524]

TMA LIVE wrote...

I just hope the romance isn't just, "Hey Shepard (kiss). Now go save the galaxy!", 40 hours later, "Hey Shepard! Let's have a fade to black romance scene!" The end.

Well, yeah, more than two convos would be good.

TMA LIVE wrote...
I can deal with Liara being corrupted or Indoctrinated as long as it's written well, and serves a purpose beyond pissing me off. What I don't want is barely any character development. I want the romance or friendship to keep growing, evolving, and tested.

IMO, this can never be well-written as it will always come off as being a bit sexist.  I think women can successfuly hold a position of power without 'falling', though it's incredibly rare to see this.  Something always tends to go wrong if a woman gets put into this position and someone must save her (usually it's a man too...go figure /sarcasm).

I do love powerful female characters but, unfortunately, they are difficult to find due to these types of sexist ideals influencing fiction.  Liara is now a powerful female character and I would be greatly disappointed if BW throws all of that out the window in ME3 so Shepard can play hero for her.

[Kronner]

How is Liara female? Aren't asari mono-gendered?

[TMA LIVE]

jlb524 wrote...

IMO, this can never be well-written as it will always come off as being a bit sexist.  I think women can successfuly hold a position of power without 'falling', though it's incredibly rare to see this.  Something always tends to go wrong if a woman gets put into this position and someone must save her (usually it's a man too...go figure /sarcasm).

I do love powerful female characters but, unfortunately, they are difficult to find due to these types of sexist ideals influencing fiction.  Liara is now a powerful female character and I would be greatly disappointed if BW throws all of that out the window in ME3 so Shepard can play hero for her.

Alright, well what if she saves herself? Example, Shepard simple points out certain things, and Liara asks for Shepard's advice. Based off this adice, Liara makes a choice. Or show support, which will give Liara confidence to do what's right.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 30 décembre 2010 - 08:06 .

[TMA LIVE]

Kronner wrote...

How is Liara female? Aren't asari mono-gendered?

They give birth, and are mothers.

[jlb524]

Kronner wrote...

How is Liara female? Aren't asari mono-gendered?

mono-gendered = one gender = female

[JamieCOTC]

Kronner wrote...

How is Liara female? Aren't asari mono-gendered?

Yes, Asari have one gender, female. 

Asari are BW's way of having their cake and eating it too.  They can have f/f in the game, which both guys and girls like to play and they can PR that asari aren't *wink, wink* woman so there is no real *wink, wink* f/f (gay stuff) going on in thier shooter.  Yeah, right.  Asari are female.  femShep is female. Their is f/f in Mass Effect.  End of story. 

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 30 décembre 2010 - 08:10 .

[jlb524]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Alright, well what if she saves herself? Example, Shepard simple points out certain things, and Liara asks for Shepard's advice. Based off this adice, Liara makes a choice. Or show support, which will give Liara confidence to do what's right.

That would depend upon how they write it.   I just don't see the need for them to add this in at all...why undermine Liara's character and all that she's accomplished just to stroke some players' ego?

[TMA LIVE]

Like I'd like to see Liara challenged, and have to overcome that challenge. Instead of Shepard coming in to save the day, Liara can simple ask, "I'm worried that I'm not doing what needs to be done... I need to know... am I doing the right thing? What should I do?". In which Shepard can give support, and tell her you believe in her. Or tell her your beliefs, but say you trust her to do what's right. And based on that, Liara leaves and makes her own choice.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 30 décembre 2010 - 08:20 .

[Kronner]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Kronner wrote...

How is Liara female? Aren't asari mono-gendered?

mono = one

Asari have one gender. That gender is female. The Codex is very clear on this.

Hmm my bad then, I thought they only looked feminine (from our human standpoint), but weren't female race. Gotta check Codex again.

edit: seems to me Codex does not say they are female, this is kind of important to me since my femShep that romances Liara is straight.

Modifié par Kronner, 30 décembre 2010 - 08:22 .

[ACC3SS]

Kronner wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Kronner wrote...

How is Liara female? Aren't asari mono-gendered?

mono = one

Asari have one gender. That gender is female. The Codex is very clear on this.

Hmm my bad then, I thought they only looked feminine (from our human standpoint), but weren't female race. Gotta check Codex again.

edit: seems to me Codex does not say they are female, this is kind of important to me since my femShep that romances Liara is straight.

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AHAHAHAHA :D:lol:


EDIT: I should put an end to this instead of merely laughing, I suppose.

The Galactic Codex: Essentials Edition 2183 says that "while asari have only one gender, they are not asexual like single-celled life—all asari are sexually female"

Source

Modifié par ACC3SS, 30 décembre 2010 - 08:32 .

[TMA LIVE]

An example would be like in Fable 3. You can make promises, and have good intentions all you want, but being a good king isn't easy (unless you did a money cheat). Good deeds just don't pay as much as bad deeds in order to keep power, and run a large business, nor is it always good to turn bad people down. Liara would have to go through the same situation, and have to decide on weakening her power as the Shadow Broker, verses becoming more powerful. I'd like to watch her go through this struggle, and make a choice.