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[pacer90]

Joker, since he felt bad about Shepard dying and all. Not a problem with Cerberus itself but just the fact that he wasn't involved in saving Shepard

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I imagine that certain other characters would be irritated or annoyed initially, before eventually understanding the reasons as to why Liara kept it a secret. It's not something she's proud of, after all. On the contrary, she hates herself for it.

I think they would understand in time. But I would be rather suprised if their initial reaction doesn't include some sense of being betrayed or feeling that Liara acted selfishly.

[Erinlana]

Did Lira Give a good reason for giving Shepards body to Cerberus.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Erinlana wrote...

Did Lira Give a good reason for giving Shepards body to Cerberus.

Well she does say she did it because "I couldn't let you go".

But here's some good reasons for doing it.

- Pragmatic -

A chance to bring back someone who might be everyones best chance against the Reapers.

- emotional -

A second chance for Shepard to live, when his death came suddenly.

[Erinlana]

Lizardviking wrote...

Erinlana wrote...

Did Lira Give a good reason for giving Shepards body to Cerberus.

Well she does say she did it because "I couldn't let you go".

But here's some good reasons for doing it.

- Pragmatic -

A chance to bring back someone who might be everyones best chance against the Reapers.

- emotional -

A second chance for Shepard to live, when his death came suddenly.

Hmm Most interesting Lizardking , I decided to read the comic book I got with my collectors edition  again last night for some reason and I did see that Liara was  comited to brining Shepard Back:wizard:

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Erinlana wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Erinlana wrote...

Did Lira Give a good reason for giving Shepards body to Cerberus.

Well she does say she did it because "I couldn't let you go".

But here's some good reasons for doing it.

- Pragmatic -

A chance to bring back someone who might be everyones best chance against the Reapers.

- emotional -

A second chance for Shepard to live, when his death came suddenly.

Hmm Most interesting Lizardking , I decided to read the comic book I got with my collectors edition  again last night for some reason and I did see that Liara was  comited to brining Shepard Back:wizard:

I think Liara's initial motivation to get Shepard's corpse back was to get some closure and give a last act of respect to her commander/friend/lover.

And for the sake of your own sanity. DO NOT READ REDEMPTION!!!! That path only leads to nerdraging.

"EDIT"

The reasons I gave are possible reasons Liara had for giving Shepard to Cerberus that wasn't connected to some personal reason to see him back.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 05 janvier 2011 - 11:09 .

[Tancho]

I think she probably also realized Shepard's importance. I don't think there's necessarily 'destiny' playing into this, but I think the old Normandy Crew and Cerberus both realize that Shepard's the only one who's got the balls to take care of the Reapers.



I mean, he/she took care of Saren and the Geth (first wave of reapers) already, so who else would they trust to save the galaxy?



I definitely think Liara was motivated by her feelings, but I think Shepard's importance was part of it too.

[Tancho]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

And for the sake of your own sanity. DO NOT READ REDEMPTION!!!! That path only leads to nerdraging.

I can't emphasise this enough.

I do commend Redemption for canonising another aspect of Liara's guilt that many had speculated about before hand, though: that Liara was fearful that Cerberus would botch the Lazarus Project, and resurrect Shepard as an undead monstrosity.

I was literally logging into Amazon to order Redemption when I read this. I definitely want to read it, but do you really recommend against it? I have a feeling like it's only going to make me crazy.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

And for the sake of your own sanity. DO NOT READ REDEMPTION!!!! That path only leads to nerdraging.

I can't emphasise this enough.

I remeber how everyone hated that stupidity that was Redemption issue 4, and as a result. the entire thread went into meltdown.

I do commend Redemption for canonising another aspect of Liara's
guilt that many had speculated about before hand, though: that Liara was
fearful that Cerberus would botch the Lazarus Project, and resurrect
Shepard as an undead monstrosity.

That had to bee the only remotly good thing about it then.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Tancho wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

And for the sake of your own sanity. DO NOT READ REDEMPTION!!!! That path only leads to nerdraging.

I can't emphasise this enough.

I do commend Redemption for canonising another aspect of Liara's guilt that many had speculated about before hand, though: that Liara was fearful that Cerberus would botch the Lazarus Project, and resurrect Shepard as an undead monstrosity.

I was literally logging into Amazon to order Redemption when I read this. I definitely want to read it, but do you really recommend against it? I have a feeling like it's only going to make me crazy.

Don't do it man. Redemption is pretty bad. Liara acts like "Cliche action girl#12345501" and Feron is nothing but a lame Han-Solo wannabe. The art is not very pretty either.

"EDIT"

Alot of the space in all of the 4 comics is used to nothing but action scenes and the only thing aside from Feron that might have had some relevance to the ME-trilogy is completely forgotten in LOTSB (the SB data that Liara retrived).

Modifié par Lizardviking, 05 janvier 2011 - 11:23 .

[Erinlana]

Lizardviking wrote...

Erinlana wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Erinlana wrote...

Did Lira Give a good reason for giving Shepards body to Cerberus.

Well she does say she did it because "I couldn't let you go".

But here's some good reasons for doing it.

- Pragmatic -

A chance to bring back someone who might be everyones best chance against the Reapers.

- emotional -

A second chance for Shepard to live, when his death came suddenly.

Hmm Most interesting Lizardking , I decided to read the comic book I got with my collectors edition  again last night for some reason and I did see that Liara was  comited to brining Shepard Back:wizard:

I think Liara's initial motivation to get Shepard's corpse back was to get some closure and give a last act of respect to her commander/friend/lover.

And for the sake of your own sanity. DO NOT READ REDEMPTION!!!! That path only leads to nerdraging.

"EDIT"

The reasons I gave are possible reasons Liara had for giving Shepard to Cerberus that wasn't connected to some personal reason to see him back.

Lmao , I only read it because I was bored & couldn't sleep:innocent: I swear

[jlb524]

I kind of wish I only would have read the Wiki summaries for Redemption. I want my 15 buck back (or whatever I spent on all 4 comics).



I updated my fan fic also if anyone cares http://www.fanfictio...6/11/Duty_Calls

[TheMarshal]

I'm glad I picked up Redemption only because I wanted moar Liara!!!



But yeah... terrible writing, sub-par art, and Liara is disturbingly OOC.

[Erinlana]

I would have thought you could have downloaded it in pdf form.

[Tancho]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Here, Tancho. If you haven't done so already, and are eager to read about what occurs in Redemption, read the ME Wiki summary.

Mass Effect: Redemption

That should give you a general idea, without subjecting you to its low quality.

When I read that it was terrible, I immediately went to the Mass Effect wiki to read the summaries. Thanks for the link though! 

But, shoot, that stinks that she is characterized so poorly. I was hoping it would be a good filler for the two years between 1 and 2....

Although, I do have a question. Could her bratty, teenage behavior be a result of loss? People act very different and irrational when grieving. Do you think that's why they depicted her that way?

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Tancho wrote...

Although, I do have a question. Could her bratty, teenage behavior be a result of loss? People act very different and irrational when grieving. Do you think that's why they depicted her that way?

I don't think so. I just belive it were the result of Liara being the main character in another form of media they had changed the behavior.

[AlexMBrennan]

I think it was free as an iPhone/iPad app for a while and is now 0.99$. Looks like they're too afraid of piracy to publish a .pdf form.
Edit: Link

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 05 janvier 2011 - 11:37 .

[jlb524]

Tancho wrote...

Although, I do have a question. Could her bratty, teenage behavior be a result of loss? People act very different and irrational when grieving. Do you think that's why they depicted her that way?

Nah, it's just bad.  I think ME2 handled her 'change' well (it's just too bad there was so little content).  She seemed more ruthless and cold...very business like with Shepard.

I just don't see the teen bratty stuff ever coming from Liara...ever.  Now, if they started to show her getting colder or a bit more ruthless as the comic progressed, then that would have been cool.

[Tancho]

Dang, yeah, I was just curious. Thanks for saving me money, haha.



Yeah, I can see her getting colder and more ruthless over time, seeing as that's how she behaves in ME2. But bratty? Yikes.

[Erinlana]

im gonna go now dudes & grab a quick nap.