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Liara T'Soni Character Discussion Thread *possible ME3 spoilers*


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#2026
MillaShepard

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these are some of the funniest comments i've read on here ha!



Liara's response to Feron's "poetry reading" would definately NOT be "Embrace Eternity" but something like, "I'm not used to being around other people. I had no idea you felt that way, but i'm afraid it does not matter. My heart belongs to Shepard."



In walks Shep...



Shep proceeds to give Feron epic glare (look given to warden Kural on Purgatory after trying to confiscate weapons) while going into advanced adrenaline rush, within the blink of an eye drills Feron between the eyes quickly puts Incisor away stands there looking innocent and says.....



"What? ... It wasn't me."




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@jbauck - what are you quoting exactly? (pure curiosity)

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Those two Feron "falling into memory" things? Not quoting - you didn't miss anything. I just wrote them.

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Hahaha, well they were well done. I kind of wish you had been quoting some dialogue that I had missed. It makes LotSB feel new when I realize I missed some dialogue.

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Thanks ... but, no, we don't get to see Feron at the SB board.

I'm hoping, though, that since LotSB is the first DLC "bridge" into ME3, and therefore Liara being the SB is canon, that they'll go ahead and make that canon for the rest of the "bridge" DLC's, meaning Liara-as-SB is the quest-giver. They'd only have to include the SB base itself in the DLC, and some dialogue to explain how that happened in case the player didn't have LotSB... and that could be reusable in the other "bridge" DLC's in the event the player didn't get them all.

That would make it possible - though unlikely, depending on the DLC content - that Liara could be a temp squaddie in another DLC and leave Feron at the board for a bit. If there were a "bridge" DLC that involved something important in some Prothean Ruins, it would actually seem weird to not bring Liara - she is the expert, after all.

I already had the Hammerhead when Overlord came out - does anyone know how that was handled, if someone had Overlord but not the Hammerhead DLC? Did Overlord include the vehicle, or was it impossible to play Overlord without having the Hammerhead DLC, too?

Of course, this is wishful thinking on my part because I feel More Liara = Good and More Cerberus = Bad.

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I totally agree with you there jbauck, i wish i could break free from cerberus and go back to the alliance. It's annoying that suddenly you have to play nice since nobody else belives you, but that is what everybody says so enough about that.

I just finished LotSB with Liara as my LI, and i can say i am both pleased and dissapointed. I am pleased with how things turned out with Liara, although some small things could have been done better. I was so annoyed with basic ME2 where she totally ignores you, now at least i can feel our romance continues.

The thing with LotSB that disappointed me was the shadow broker himself. I hoped that he would be a funny little volus with a nose for business, not a classic big meanie who you have to have an epic battle with.

This DLC made this ME2 so much better in my opinion, i was dissappointed with how all my former comrades seemed to ignore me. I mean, those are my teammates who just turns their backs on me! I hope i will be able to fire all my new annoying teammates in ME3 (not all are bad, but most)

Do you think there will be a happy ending where liara and shepard lives happily ever after with a lot of little blue children?

And do you think Liara would give up being the SB for shepards sake? If shepard begs her for help in ME3 i mean?

The Mass Effect series are my favourite games, and i really care about the
characters and story. Makes me kind of worried when i get sad irl when a fictional characters LI ignores her =P

I dont know if this was the right thread to ramble about this, but i had to let off some steam somewhere ^^

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@Zorg, haha, you're good.



I really hope that we have closure for every possible decision. I mean, I hope that these things have the opportunity to come to a positive fruition. Hopefully there will be a series of choices, combined with your previous choices, that allow you to survive the end of ME3 and see Liara.



Also, I'm kind of curious to see if she has a baby bump in the last game...I mean, it is largely insinuated that they, as Joker would say, got their 'freaky eternity thing' on.



Not gonna lie - that would be a nice little surprise.

#2033
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I imagine... only near the end, if that. Asari can control their fertility, and getting pregnant immediately before the Reapers arrive strikes me as a very bad idea.

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does anyone know when the Asari reach their Maiden stage?

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Morinth was one at around 40, if I recall correctly.

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Oh - I didn't know that asari could control their fertility. Woops.

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MillaShepard wrote...

does anyone know when the Asari reach their Maiden stage?


The asari reach the Maiden stage around age 350, naturally.  However, it can be triggered earlier than that if the asari melds frequently (whatever that means) or it can be consciously triggered early if the individual asari feels that she is mature enough for it.

Modifié par jlb524, 08 janvier 2011 - 04:45 .


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jlb524 wrote...

MillaShepard wrote...

does anyone know when the Asari reach their Maiden stage?


The asari reach the Maiden stage around age 350, naturally.  However, it can be triggered earlier than that if the asari melds frequently (whatever that means) or it can be consciously triggered early if the individual asari feels that she is mature enough for it.


Aren't you thinking of the matron stage?

Modifié par Lizardviking, 08 janvier 2011 - 04:46 .


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jbauck wrote...

I'm hoping, though, that since LotSB is the first DLC "bridge" into ME3, and therefore Liara being the SB is canon, that they'll go ahead and make that canon for the rest of the "bridge" DLC's, meaning Liara-as-SB is the quest-giver. They'd only have to include the SB base itself in the DLC, and some dialogue to explain how that happened in case the player didn't have LotSB... and that could be reusable in the other "bridge" DLC's in the event the player didn't get them all.


That would be nice, but I doubt they will go to the trouble including Liara in any way in future DLCs as, for one, the player might not even have LotSB and, secondly, LotSB could be played after the next DLC.

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Lizardviking wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

MillaShepard wrote...

does anyone know when the Asari reach their Maiden stage?


The asari reach the Maiden stage around age 350, naturally.  However, it can be triggered earlier than that if the asari melds frequently (whatever that means) or it can be consciously triggered early if the individual asari feels that she is mature enough for it.


Aren't you thinking of the matron stage?


Yes, I am...I thought that was the original question and then I confused myself...oops.

As for the Maiden stage, it begins at birth.

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I wonder if the "meld" frequently thing has to do with an asari "living" a lot of experiences and situations through her partners.



Because every explanation of a union seems to indicate that it's far beyond simply 'watching a movie' of the partner's experience. Seems like you actually live it yourself.

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As for the Maiden stage, it begins at birth.


Really? I thought it began at puberty, and they weren't really in a stage while prepubescent.

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Xilizhra wrote...

As for the Maiden stage, it begins at birth.

Really? I thought it began at puberty, and they weren't really in a stage while prepubescent.


i think it's possible that this might be the case.

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ME wiki says it begins at birth, and I'm confident that's from the codex. But, if the question is, when do they reach puberty ... about 40-ish is when it was discovered Morinth was an AY, and that happens at puberty. And the Asari on Illium chatting with the Salarian at the weapons kiosk says that she's 60 and just got out of her parents' house - so we can infer that 60 is legally an adult who can go off on their own, like an 18-year-old human.

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I think from there, the maturity rate slows down, since Liara seems to be 21-22 or so by human standards, after 48 more years.

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Xilizhra wrote...

As for the Maiden stage, it begins at birth.

Really? I thought it began at puberty, and they weren't really in a stage while prepubescent.


The codex really doesn't go into much detail, but it does say Maiden starts at birth. See below.

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jlb524 wrote...

[...]

As for the Maiden stage, it begins at birth.


Sorry, I don't remember what the codex says... But Samara, when Shepard is talking to Wrex about Grunt's 'problem', she says something like "ah, like the maiden stage", like before puberty is something different.
Samara also says when she rejects Shepard, "If I were a maiden, I would have you on the floor right now", which implies sexual maturity in the concept.

edit: thanks for the codex, sunnie!

Modifié par jwalker, 08 janvier 2011 - 05:09 .


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I agree she's in the equivalent of early 20's. That actually fits for me with her description of herself in ME1 as "scarcely more than a child". That was said in the context of her work, and I imagine the other PhD's see her as a kid, because they'd be much older. Because most maidens run around as mercs or dancers for awhile, I'd think they don't pick a permanent career and go to college right away, so my guess is that most of Liara's peers are late-Maiden, early-Matron age.

Edit: @Sunnie ... Screenshot, FTW! 

Modifié par jbauck, 08 janvier 2011 - 05:33 .


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jlb524 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

MillaShepard wrote...

does anyone know when the Asari reach their Maiden stage?


The asari reach the Maiden stage around age 350, naturally.  However, it can be triggered earlier than that if the asari melds frequently (whatever that means) or it can be consciously triggered early if the individual asari feels that she is mature enough for it.


Aren't you thinking of the matron stage?


Yes, I am...I thought that was the original question and then I confused myself...oops.

As for the Maiden stage, it begins at birth.


Here's something that I thought about. If an asari can trigger a stage sooner, wouldn't that have a side effect? Example, they cut some years off their life by maturing at an early age?

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In reality, I think there should be another stage that separates 'child' asari from Maidens (who are young adults) but there isn't.