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[mereck7980]

I was on IGN's website today and I read a post that quoted EA's label president Frank Gibeau as saying that the single player game model is effectively dead. 

Link to the article:
http://xbox360.ign.c.../1138974p1.html

I firmly believe that Mass Effect 3 should not be designed around a Co-Op or completive multiplayer paradigm, but I keep hearing rumors that this is in fact the approach that Bioware is taking.  While I do play lots of different types of games and I appreciate a good multiplayer experience as much as the next gamer, it just doesn't seem that the Mass Effect story could be concluded coherently (with all the different narrative permutations caused by actions in the previous games) if the plot is written around a multiplayer model.  From a design standpoint some story arch and game play sacrifices would probably have to be made to integrate multiplayer modes, and I love the story in this game series so much it would seem like a crime to lessen it for the sake of being able to play with a friend.  
 
What do you think, is Frank Gibeau right in thinking single player game experiences are dead?  Should Bioware include multiplayer options in Mass Effect 3 or build an entirely new game (maybe in the Mass Effect universe?) around a Co-Op concept? 

[Kurt Cobain]

me3 should NOT be multiplayer, but some spinoff can be.

[Kane-Corr]

Yeah...Mass Effect 3 will be a single player game, following Commander Shepards story ONLY. ----It's just what the Dev's have said multiple times in the past. Makes sense too, seeing how much data actually goes onto the discs alone for the single player campaign.

But, I'm all for spin-offs like multiplayer and whatever else they have in mind....because we'll always have Shepards story....and when thinking about all 3 games, it's a pretty epic story at that!

Modifié par Kane-Corr, 08 décembre 2010 - 03:07 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

If BioWare want to go the multiplayer route, they can go ahead and do it as long as it's part of a spin-off title and NOT ME3.

[Fredvdp]

I think the core game should definitely be a hundred percent single player. If they manage to create a good multiplayer mode, I welcome it, but something tells me it will be hard to do for a game like this.

[mereck7980]

I would be very interested in playing a multiplayer spinoff in the ME universe, but I just don't think ME3 would work as a multiplayer game. And for the record I think there are a LOT of gamers that would disagree with Frank Gibeau's vision. You don't have to design every game to compete with WOW or Call of Duty, even if market research tells you that you could make money doing so.

[uzivatel]

I would not mind DICE making ME3 multiplayer as long as its completely separate from the singleplayer component. Then again what would be the point?

As for future games / spin-offs, I would like them to try co-op game with co-op dialogues and stuff. Bit of a RE5 and ME2 mix.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Get multiplayer the hell away from ME3. I do however welcome it in an ME spin-off game.

[mereck7980]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Get multiplayer the hell away from ME3. I do however welcome it in an ME spin-off game.

Amen...

[xiiz]

mereck7980 wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Get multiplayer the hell away from ME3. I do however welcome it in an ME spin-off game.

Amen...

[Rivercurse]

No. It shouldn't.

[Talon_Wu]

No. Just...no.



P.S. Frank Gibeau is a putz. Single player games have a greater longevity than multiplayer, simply because of the server logistics. When the company no longer supports the MP servers, what happens? No support = no game. Golden geese like WoW and CoD are the exception, rather than the rule, for success.

[Stormy-B]

I'm open to a separate co-op campaign (as long as it isn't impending the core campaign) or a spinoff game with multiplayer.

[DJBare]

No, definitely no, I'm not even in favor of a mp/coop spin off unless they start developing it AFTER me3 is complete, I'd prefer all resources be devoted to a single player ME3 experience.

[mereck7980]

DJBare wrote...

No, definitely no, I'm not even in favor of a mp/coop spin off unless they start developing it AFTER me3 is complete, I'd prefer all resources be devoted to a single player ME3 experience.

Very good point.  I think we are all dying to see how the ME story is going to end, anything that delays this would be a horrible idea.

[fmsantos39]

I think they should add multiplayer but only if it doesn't interfere with singleplayer experience, they could adapt the classes to multiplayer (changing all slow mo effects to extra wepon damage in multy, it could work).I really dont care about multiplayer but I think multiplayer would attract more fans and make the game sells more and this game deserves

[Acturas]

No

[halogod1986]

I read Frank Gibeau's comment this morning, and while I'm definitely a solo gamer kind of guy (with the exception of fighting games, FPSes and RTSes), I don't know that he necessarily was stating that EA was going to incorporate a multiplayer component into all of games. I think ME2 already accomplished EA's online goals through the Cerberus news updates and DLC. Maybe I misinterpreted it, though.

[spacehamsterZH]

Single player gaming is not dead. But corporate bloodsuckers like this guy obviously prefer multiplayer games because they require you to be online, which is a good way to keep your customers on a short leash and squeeze more money out of them whenever you feel like it.



I'm not saying there's something inherently wrong with all forms of online multiplayer, but it's pretty easy to see why the big publishers are pushing it.

[Majin Paul]

I think Multiplayer would only weaken ME3 so it should stick solely to Singe player.

If they make a spinoff game in future though which is has coop/multiplayer and is set in the ME universe, I'd be open to that.

[mereck7980]

spacehamsterZH wrote...

I'm not saying there's something inherently wrong with all forms of online multiplayer, but it's pretty easy to see why the big publishers are pushing it.

I have been playing RPGs for years(not MMOs), and with the exception of maybe Borderlands or Diablo no one has ever really pulled off a convincing multiplayer RPG.  The main reason for this is it is very hard to have a tight narrative in a game that involves multiple players.  Bioware's success has come from crafting extremely deep, exciting, and compelling stories; and this narrative focus is really the core of all their franchises.  I know they are working on making the Old Republic have both a strong story focus and strong multiplayer design, but ME isn't the same kind of game and I think the expereince would be diluted if the plot is dumb downed enough to make it accessible to multiple players in the same gaming session. 

The big publishers need games like Madden, WoW, COD, etc because they generate the profit required to develop new titles.  That doesn't mean that all their projects need to have the same focus.  EA can let Bioware have their strong story focused games and let DICE create multiplayer cash cows and still be an industry leader.  I could be wrong, but variety is the spice of life right?

[Fiery Phoenix]

mereck7980 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

No, definitely no, I'm not even in favor of a mp/coop spin off unless they start developing it AFTER me3 is complete, I'd prefer all resources be devoted to a single player ME3 experience.

Very good point. I think we are all dying to see how the ME story is going to end, anything that delays this would be a horrible idea.

Very much so. This is a critical point and the slightest mistake could screw up the whole thing with ME3. Going for a MP experience will only make it worse.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 08 décembre 2010 - 05:48 .

[aeetos21]

Man falling off cliff: "Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!"



Mass Effect has enough trouble playing to the RPG and the Shooter crowds, now you want to add online play and disrupt the class balances? People overlook that one of the biggest pulls of the ME franchise is that as Commander Shepard you are the hero you are the guy with the skills and leadership and badass persona to do the job, be the center of attention, and save the galaxy.



All of that goes out the window when you introduce online multiplayer. It'd turn a 10/10 franchise of epicness into... meh Halo was better. More importantly though it'd take resources away from the features that made ME into the premiere game it is: story, cinema, and... well actually that's it - that's what really sold the series. I'd much rather see the money they put forward towards mplayer be used for making sure they get the best script, the best VAs, the best art and scenes, and some continued DLC after the trilogy's final release. Beside's, EA is now the head publish of the upcoming Old Republic mmo - LucasArts transferred pretty much everything except the licensing to EA and BW and for all intents and purposes that appears to have some RPG elements akin to Mass Effect involved with the dialogue tree and companions.



Basically, just let ME3 become the single player masterpiece its destined to be.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I couldn't have said it any better, Aeetos.