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Ninotchka wrote...

Amazing how many people want their hair to look long and silky in a game where it is most guaranteed to be splattered and matted with the blood and chunky bits of darkspawn.........

Thing is, what happens when LadyHawke (or Garrett, of course) returns to camp to get it on with the smoking hot companion of her choice? Is she going to arrive with darkspawn chunks in her hair? NO! She is going to bathe first, and she is going to make sure her hair of any size is chunk-free and her face is no longer encrusted with the blood of the fallen. She's not going to just go, "whatevs, darkspawn spleen in my hair... let's get it on, sweetcheeks!" When it counts, LadyHawke is gonna look like a lady. *coughs* Well, I'm assuming.

It's realistic to wear your hair long enough to put in a ponytail, rather than worrying about cutting or shaving it decently on the road.

YourFunnyUncle wrote...

I actually love short hair on
women but then I guess I'm just a weirdo. I do agree though that a
greater range of styles for both sexes would be a good thing.

Nothing wrong with that. I'd like to have the option to play a short-haired mage who prefers not to look too girly, and a long-haired fighter who wants to have something to shake out of her helm so that she still feels pretty.

PsychoBlonde wrote...

I would like to see an end to the
Excessive Unrealistic Braids, personally. When your hairstyle either
means that you're wearing a fake braid or that one braided strand of
your hair is about 8 feet long, it bugs me. Why do they feel they have
to do this weird stuff, anyway? Subtle differences between styles is
where you're more likely to get something that people can be happy with,
instead of 1 long braid, 1 ponytail, 1 weird braided thing, 1 shaved
head

Agreed! Those braids were really improbable-looking, and subtlety would be highly appreciated. The DA styles were a bit too samey in the wrong ways and too different in--also the wrong ways. There weren't that many I liked.

leonia42 wrote...

Laidlaw announced the strong possibility of a helmet toggle just the other day.

Oh, that makes me so  very happy... I never saw a point to making a face that you're just going to cover up with a helm.

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shepard_lives wrote...

Long hair is well worth some clipping.


I dunno, they have long hair in DDO that clips REALLY BADLY and I think it looks unspeakably tacky--but this may be a result of the fact that they're pretty good about avoiding model clipping overall except with the long hair.

Of course, as a result of THAT, everyone looks like they're running around wearing a bodysuit with metal bits attached to it, but you can't have everything.

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Snoteye wrote...
Lots of people, in requesting long-hair styles, underestimate how ridiculous clipping hair looks. Long hair would be spectacular but I'll settle for shoulder length (or ponytails) as long as long hair doesn't render well.

I agree. Clipping sucks.

Updos (better than the lame ponytails and school-marmish updos from vanilla DAO) would be welcome.  I didn't like Morrigan's hair either.  Give us some styles where a little more hair falls out loosely or is pulled back less severely.  And a ponytail with fuller hair (*grimaces at the memory of the mouse tail my Dalish elf sported*) and/or some wispy strands falling out or some side-swept bangs.  It doesn't have to be bushy or ridiculous, just a little more *there* and perhaps a little more soft and feminine.

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Wynne wrote...

It's realistic to wear your hair long enough to put in a ponytail, rather than worrying about cutting or shaving it decently on the road.


Actually it is--shaved head/crewcut and long enough to be tied up are the hairstyles you want when you're traveling far from contact with bathwater.  The long-enough-to-get-gunky-and-require-maintenance-but-not-long-enough-to-hold-a-style-and-stay-out-of-the-way hair would be the worst.  I've had that hairstyle for long periods at times, and I HATED IT.

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tmp7704 wrote...

Ninotchka wrote...

Amazing how many people want their hair to look long and silky in a game where it is most guaranteed to be splattered and matted with the blood and chunky bits of darkspawn.........

This can look good, too Posted Image

http://photos.prnews...01206/LA12373-a


Those lips looks ridiculous. There's a perfect trope for this. She's not even bruised! Clean up that blood and dirt and she's fine, of course.

Modifié par Saibh, 09 décembre 2010 - 08:59 .


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Saibh wrote...

There's a perfect trope for this.


Some things are worth suspending disbelief over.

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Yeah, if you really wanted to get into realistic injury systems it would make for rather grotesque romantic scenes in video games. All the characters would be bloody, bruised, cleaved with deep scars and missing fingers, eyes, hands, feet, have bald patches in their hair from burns or the occaisional ogre using long hair as a temporary handle to toss them by.



There's a list reasons why people wear lots of armor and keep their hair short when going into any kind of combat.



That said, this is fantasy and I would like to see more long hair styles. Nearly all my characters in DA:O ended up using a hair mod just because all the styles looked better. I remember one reason why DA:O supposedly didn't have long hair models was due to clipping issues. I suppose that makes sense but the vanilla armor clipped itself like crazy in the game so hair clipping outfits didn't bother me in the mods.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Saibh wrote...

There's a perfect trope for this.


Some things are worth suspending disbelief over.

Yes.

For the dose of realism, there's supposedly going to be sequences where the woman in question gets her legs broken and large boulders fall on her, smashing her skull in. Also, getting stabbed by crazy people and whatever else.

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Posted Image



Hawke apparently had long hair early on. Hopefully we can still use it but chances are slim.

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Ryllen Laerth Kriel

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Damn, that party from the developer diary looks more interesting than the characters we have now.

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What about afros?

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Hoodchild13 wrote...

What about afros?


Only if we can make DA2 into a blacksploitation film.

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Is it too soon / too late for a little DirectX 11 Support?

Long hair, no clipping. :wizard:

www.geforce.com/#/GamesandApps/games/fermi-hair-demo/videos

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Yes. Please give us long hair. And no more gay caps. Let's swap those.

Modifié par The Big Nothing, 12 décembre 2010 - 06:15 .


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I hope so.
The image I have in mind for my first Hawke is a guy with long shaggy hair and a long shaggy beard.

Something like this guy.


Posted Image

Modifié par GodWood, 12 décembre 2010 - 06:22 .


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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Saibh wrote...

There's a perfect trope for this.

Some things are worth suspending disbelief over.


I thought it was neat when you rescue SIE in Alpha Protocol and her face is bloody and cut up. Of course, the next time you see her, she has no bruising, stitches, or scars. Sad.

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Yes please. Just not the rocker or hippie type of long hair.

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Is long hair not simply "long"?


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Snoteye wrote...

Lots of people, in requesting long-hair styles, underestimate how ridiculous clipping hair looks. Long hair would be spectacular but I'll settle for shoulder length (or ponytails) as long as long hair doesn't render well.


If people can handle Aveline drawing a sword by passing it through her shield and body, they can handle hair clipping.

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Golden-Rose wrote...

Yes please. Just not the rocker or hippie type of long hair.


And why not?
I say, the more the better ;) prolly not gonna happen but thanks to modding community anything is possible .


GodWood wins internetz + 10
lol

Modifié par Viola Faye, 12 décembre 2010 - 06:45 .


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Viola Faye wrote...

Golden-Rose wrote...

Yes please. Just not the rocker or hippie type of long hair.


And why not?
I say, the more the better ;) prolly not gonna happen but thanks to modding community anything is possible .


GodWood wins internetz + 10
lol


No offence to people with those hairstyles, but it's just that I find the scruffy, dirty hair and/or dreadlocked hair incredibly unappealing. Just personal preference of course. I would prefer a more sophisticated or clean and flowing style of long hair. In fact, my mind keeps flashing back to the hair of the human noble character in that DAO poster thing.

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Archereon wrote...

Probably not. Hair has never been Bioware's strong suit.


To be fair, RPG's in general suck at hair. Most games don't have good looking straight shoulder length/short hairstyles let alone long or curly hairstyles, which just tend not to exist, even The Sims 3 had no proper curly hair styles. You had to download fan made mods, which is pretty sad since charactor customization is a bigger thing in sims than in most games.

As someone who has long curly hair I find all this a bit disheartening, I could even live without the long if I just got my curly locks. :crying:

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Archereon wrote...

Probably not. Hair has never been Bioware's strong suit.

Jade Empire had good hair animation.

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Absafraginlootly wrote...

Archereon wrote...

Probably not. Hair has never been Bioware's strong suit.


To be fair, RPG's in general suck at hair. Most games don't have good looking straight shoulder length/short hairstyles let alone long or curly hairstyles, which just tend not to exist, even The Sims 3 had no proper curly hair styles. You had to download fan made mods, which is pretty sad since charactor customization is a bigger thing in sims than in most games.

As someone who has long curly hair I find all this a bit disheartening, I could even live without the long if I just got my curly locks. :crying:

It's been a technology issue primarily I think, creating lifelike hair, particularly long hair, (hair that moves and doesn't clip) is difficult, and demanding on the hardware.

It'll be interesting to see what they come up with when they start using the tessellation in DirectX 11 though. Check  the video at the link in my post above, to try and re-create that without the technology involved, would probably melt video cards... or at least make things very choppy.

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Absafraginlootly wrote...

To be fair, RPG's in general suck at hair. Most games don't have good looking straight shoulder length/short hairstyles let alone long or curly hairstyles, which just tend not to exist, even The Sims 3 had no proper curly hair styles. You had to download fan made mods, which is pretty sad since charactor customization is a bigger thing in sims than in most games.

As someone who has long curly hair I find all this a bit disheartening, I could even live without the long if I just got my curly locks. :crying:


AMEN.