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MortalEngines wrote...

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Hawke sounds good to me. I don't think he sounds too posh, and I live in northern England so I'm bound to notice these things. The way some are reacting, you'd think he sounded like this.


Where in the north? I'm from Sheffield and while I like the accent and voice, it does sound a bit too articulate. It's not on the level of Prince Charles' poshness but it's still pretty upper-class. I don't speak anything like that and I've lived in England my whole life and I rarely hear people be so well spoken if I just meet them off the street. Maybe I need to listen over the voice a couple of times though. :?


There's nothing inherently posh about an accent.  What's considered "well-spoken" is socially constructed.  There's no particular reason that Ferelden nobility couldn't sound like cockneys and alienage elves sound like Prince Charles.  As far as I'm concerned, the only limitation on Hawke's accent should be that it should sound reasonably consistent with the accent of other people in Lothering as presented in DA:O.


By articulate, I didn't mean educated. Otherwise I would of used the word educated. I mean, that the pronunciation of the words is overly upper-class to me, his wording is too high-pitched and clear, in particular his pronunciation of 'Castion' (or however it's spelt), 'back' and 'relic' just sounds too noble to me. But like I said, I still like the voice but I wouldn't call it an accurate british accent, most people don't speak like that and most people don't speak cockney either. The reason nobility couldn't sound like cockney and alienage elves sound like prince charles is that obviously those are real life accents and giving them to the opposite sociolect that they are commonly associated with would just confuse the audience. I've listened to the recording 4 times in a row now and I still think it's sounds overly articulate, my friends say I speak rather posh but I don't speak to that level.

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You have to realize that the vast majority of players are not English and have much weaker class-associations with particular English accents.  Also, they've established people from Ferelden as having essentially English accents of one variety or another, and it would be unwise for them to choose an accent for the name character which was not characterized by clear, articulate diction.  Otherwise, many non-English people playing the game will have a hard time understanding him, which might be okay in a flavor character (as long as there are subtitles), but isn't desirable for the protagonist.  Us North Americans are used to hearing BBC English, whereas strong regional accents can give us trouble.

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maxernst wrote...
You have to realize that the vast majority of players are not English and have much weaker class-associations with particular English accents.  Also, they've established people from Ferelden as having essentially English accents of one variety or another, and it would be unwise for them to choose an accent for the name character which was not characterized by clear, articulate diction.  Otherwise, many non-English people playing the game will have a hard time understanding him, which might be okay in a flavor character (as long as there are subtitles), but isn't desirable for the protagonist.  Us North Americans are used to hearing BBC English, whereas strong regional accents can give us trouble.


Oh, I know that. And I'm not saying they should change Hawke's voice, like I said three times already, I LIKE HAWKE'S VOICE! I think it shouldn't change, I was just saying that, it isn't how people actually speak in England (and on the BBC too actually). Also I'm not saying he should have a strong regional accent (where are you getting this from in my post?), I'm saying the opposite, it should tone down a little, it sounds too "tea and crumpets"-like. Not that it's going to change anyway, Hawke's lines will all be done and dusted now. I was just saying my personal view.

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maxernst wrote...

Us North Americans are used to hearing BBC English, whereas strong regional accents can give us trouble.

In fairness, a lot of our regional accents give many english people trouble.

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No point in arguing about it this late.

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ziggehunderslash wrote...

maxernst wrote...

Us North Americans are used to hearing BBC English, whereas strong regional accents can give us trouble.

In fairness, a lot of our regional accents give many english people trouble.


They give me trouble too, sometimes I can't understand my dad who lives in London because of his strong Londoner's accent. 

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Russalka wrote...

No point in arguing about it this late.


There's no point in arguing about anything this late.

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ziggehunderslash wrote...

maxernst wrote...

Us North Americans are used to hearing BBC English, whereas strong regional accents can give us trouble.

In fairness, a lot of our regional accents give many english people trouble.


I think really the only people who have regional American accents anymore are rural folk(not saying all do).  I think the vast majority of Americans from major cities have the standard american TV accent, and I imagine that TV will kill off all regional accents sometime in the near future.  Though I have never been to the east coast (met plently of east coasters though) so maybe the ratio of fairly standard TV accent to horrid stereotypical east coast boston-new york accent is a lot different than i think  

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I think really the only people who have regional American accents anymore are rural folk(not saying all do).  I think the vast majority of Americans from major cities have the standard american TV accent, and I imagine that TV will kill off all regional accents sometime in the near future.  Though I have never been to the east coast (met plently of east coasters though) so maybe the ratio of fairly standard TV accent to horrid stereotypical east coast boston-new york accent is a lot different than i think 


Good lord, please for the sake of your ears never go to Cranston, Rhode Island. 

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Good lord, please for the sake of your ears never go to Cranston, Rhode Island. 


Or anywhere in Texas that isn't near Austin.

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I think really the only people who have regional American accents anymore are rural folk(not saying all do).

You get things like the cajun/croele accents, but for all I know they're played up for tv.

For really out there british, look up geordie, or better yet glaswegian. Check youtube for Rab C. Nesbitt. Something tells me that show didn't travel well.

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Atakuma wrote...

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Good lord, please for the sake of your ears never go to Cranston, Rhode Island. 


Or anywhere in Texas that isn't near Austin.


Funny, thats the only place in Texas that ive visited. 

Austin city limits music festival baby!

So perhaps I have just been overly lucky? :lol:

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ziggehunderslash wrote...

For really out there british, look up geordie, or better yet glaswegian. Check youtube for Rab C. Nesbitt. Something tells me that show didn't travel well.


Sounds like that guy got hit in the head with a metal pipe while having a stroke

Modifié par Piecake, 09 décembre 2010 - 07:38 .


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Upsettingshorts wrote...

I'm a big fan of Meer's artfully understated performance as Commander Shepard. Jennifer Hale's hammish overacting in ME2 led me to abandon several FemSheps I had planned on importing from ME1.

*thumbs up for Mark Meer showing restraint and playing a self-confident Shepard who doesn't feel the need to be overly theatrical*


I thought Meer's performance in ME2 was rushed, and Jennifer Hale's was lazy.

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Wereparrot wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I'm a big fan of Meer's artfully understated performance as Commander Shepard. Jennifer Hale's hammish overacting in ME2 led me to abandon several FemSheps I had planned on importing from ME1.

*thumbs up for Mark Meer showing restraint and playing a self-confident Shepard who doesn't feel the need to be overly theatrical*


I thought Meer's performance in ME2 was rushed, and Jennifer Hale's was lazy.


I dug both.

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I'm from southern England and speak 'stuary inglish and like one of the previous posters my first impression of Hawke's voice was, "he's posh"= class enemy...

There you have it, good old prejudice... Hopefully I'll be able to shake it off...


I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic here, but in no way did I say estuary english is good or is what Hawke should be using, where are people jumping to this conclusion? This is why I dislike posting on the forums, just because I think Hawke sounds overly upper-class doesn't mean I don't like his voice. I do. I don't think he should use cockney or any other Estuary English accents :pinched: I don't want him sounding like a freaking farmer.

If you're not being sarcastic then I'm glad we agree that Hawke sounds a bit off. 




Not being sarcastic I don't particularly like estuary English or Hawke's accent, just highlighting that for us Brits sometimes it can be an instinctive thing to associate a certain accent with a certain class and that that is a prejudice... Which I should strive to overcome.

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@Maxernst I understand this point but like others I was saying that such an accent for the British speaker may be a bit 'charged', to put it in a certain way... I am clear this is an issue I have.



But on the other hand that was a problem I never had with SV's voicing of Alistair because although his diction was almost preciously clear there were certain entonations that denoted a more 'popular' background which was quite in accordance with the character's upbringing...

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If that is Hawke's voice actor then there is hope yet! I enjoyed the characters he voiced in DA:O, though I'm still no fan of voicing the main character. I would never buy the game if Hawke sounded like Jowan.



I hope Meer won't be Hawke as well. He was alright as Shepard but I'm not sure I want a similar voice for Hawke. I haven't heard him do a British accent so he might pull it off well, but having the two main characters of Bioware's two flagship titles voiced by the same actor would get dull pretty fast unless Meer pulls out serious mad skills in the recording studio.



Meer's job in ME was good, he sounded like a military guy, I tend to prefer Hale's version of Shepard though. Having a bit more emotion and personality was good, and yet she still sounded like military. If anything it led me to playing through the games twice to enjoy both performances.

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Maria13 wrote...
Not being sarcastic I don't particularly like estuary English or Hawke's accent, just highlighting that for us Brits sometimes it can be an instinctive thing to associate a certain accent with a certain class and that that is a prejudice... Which I should strive to overcome.


Right, sorry to presume that you sounded sarcastic, just the last line made me thing you were making some sort of jibe at me for thinking Hawke's accent was 'upper-class'

Also, it's not prejudice to assign a certain idiolect to a sociolect, it's just the way things are. Most british aristocracy do speak like their living in the victorian ages or something and with such a posh accent it's ridiculous. It's not prejudice to say they do because well...they do. XD. But I understand what you mean, I just don't think it's much of a problem in the UK.


I don't like estuary english either, but a few posters who replied to me seemed to think I wanted Hawke to have one? And like I said, I don't mind Hawke's accent, just sounds off. And weirdly enough, I didn't notice anything like this with Steve Valentine's accent. 

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Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

If that is Hawke's voice actor then there is hope yet! I enjoyed the characters he voiced in DA:O, though I'm still no fan of voicing the main character. I would never buy the game if Hawke sounded like Jowan.


Yea, Jowan sounded like a whiny little prat, though to be fair, Jowan was a whiny little prat so the voice did fit.  It would be bad if our PC sounded that way though

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MortalEngines wrote...

I don't like estuary english either, but a few posters who replied to me seemed to think I wanted Hawke to have one? And like I said, I don't mind Hawke's accent, just sounds off. And weirdly enough, I didn't notice anything like this with Steve Valentine's accent.


When I brought that up I only meant that I was relieved they hadn't gone for that accent, not that you were suggesting they should use it. EE, RP and cockney (almost always horribly over exaggerated) are the accents heard most often in media, especially outside this country, and I meant that I was glad that they'd gone for the lesser of the those evils.

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Yes, I'm not sure if it was just Jowan's character dialogue and excellent acting by his voice actor or if the voice actor's voice annoyed me. Though...some of the commoners in Denerim and throughout Ferelden occaisionally sounded like Jowan too, which led me to believe it was partially the voice actor which was a little annoying for me too.

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So Mike will have the same voice as a spoiled, power-mad, murderous rapist? Seriously?

That would be terrific for some characters.

But awful for others.  A voiced PC is guaranteed to disappoint some players because the voice won't suit the character they've designed.  Only those players who don't bother designing a character are sure to be satisfied simply by a competent, well-directed actor.

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Vaugn is Hawke, or at least really sounds like him. Does that mean that LadyHawke will be voiced by Goldanna?

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I'm Canadian, sometimes when I go south, I can't understand what an American is saying. I know, that's weird. They speak too fast or something.



I was really hoping Hawke would have a very heavy Newfie accent :P

(I'm kidding by the way)

I didn't really like Vaughn's voice, but I will reserve judgement on Hawke until I see more footage.



It's cold in the UK? It's -20C here. Ah, I love the cold weather =)

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I liked the way he sounded. Of course, I never squared with Vaughn, so I think of his VA as Ser Bryant. Dreamy, dreamy Ser Bryant.