I just bought this game and plan on playing it as soon as my university finals are over next week. Just one question though - how long is it? Is it longer than Dragon Age, or shorter?
Just got this - how long is it?
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Posté 09 décembre 2010 - 12:21
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Since Bioware has said they'd never again make a game as large as BG2 I'd guess it is longer than DA: O.
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Posté 09 décembre 2010 - 12:40
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Hmm. If I recall, it took me two weeks and six hour play sessions each day to beat Dragon Age, and even then, I still left a lot of quests unfinished and didn't get to hear a lot of the conversations.
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Posté 09 décembre 2010 - 01:38
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You will find it longer than that, particularly if you want to do EVERYTHING.
It all depends on whether you play no reload or not and if you use mods. If you play no-reloads with mods as well, be prepared for a very long, but very intersting time. I must admit to addiction. My only addiction other than caffiene.
It all depends on whether you play no reload or not and if you use mods. If you play no-reloads with mods as well, be prepared for a very long, but very intersting time. I must admit to addiction. My only addiction other than caffiene.
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Posté 09 décembre 2010 - 03:00
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Well, I plan to save the as often as I can so that I won't keep having to play the same segments over. And, what mods are available? Any interesting ones?
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Posté 09 décembre 2010 - 03:38
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Mods for BG2 are nearly as numerous as people on the planet, but here's a good place to start with respect to mods: http://social.biowar...3/index/3149243
However, as a first playthrough I would suggest using only the official patch and the G3 fixpack, which fixes hundreds of additional bugs.
wise grimwald: "I must admit to addiction."
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However, as a first playthrough I would suggest using only the official patch and the G3 fixpack, which fixes hundreds of additional bugs.
wise grimwald: "I must admit to addiction."
You and me both!
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Posté 09 décembre 2010 - 06:03
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Theoretically it's longer.
But it's not linear like all recent Bioware games, best speedruns are only hour long.
But it's not linear like all recent Bioware games, best speedruns are only hour long.
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Posté 09 décembre 2010 - 06:04
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xx55xx, If you try every side quest - a good idea since it builds up experience points and gives you a stronger party - even vanilla BG2 could easily take you 100+ "game days", and figure 2 earth hours for every Toril game day. So, that's a week and a half unless you insist on wasteing time on side issues like eating, sleeping, and potty breaks 
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Posté 09 décembre 2010 - 06:26
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Wow... 200 hours? I think I've spent only that much time on Rome: Total War over the course of the last several years, and that's only because of all the mods I've tried.
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Posté 09 décembre 2010 - 10:38
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Try it, you'll like it! - if you enjoy role playing games. You could cut down on the side quests if you want to go faster, but that might make the end harder to win. It's complexity is one of the reasons people still play BG2 as it approaches its 11th birthday.
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Posté 10 décembre 2010 - 05:36
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Many, many awesome hours of fun. Still the best, most immersive game I've ever played, hands down.
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Posté 10 décembre 2010 - 06:36
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XX55XX wrote...
Wow... 200 hours?
I don't think it's anywhere near that long. But it's long. Longer than DA:O, which I do in around sixty hours on average.
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Posté 10 décembre 2010 - 03:25
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Morbidest wrote...
xx55xx, If you try every side quest - a good idea since it builds up experience points and gives you a stronger party - even vanilla BG2 could easily take you 100+ "game days", and figure 2 earth hours for every Toril game day. So, that's a week and a half unless you insist on wasteing time on side issues like eating, sleeping, and potty breaks
You're greatly overstating the amount of real-time this takes what with reasting and travel times between areas.
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Posté 10 décembre 2010 - 03:49
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Don't forget the time (for an addict such as I am too), that is spend thinking about the game, planning new parties, hanging around on fora, modding the game (after enormous time spend reading about mods and planning what mods to take). Browsing through portrait sites to search the perfect portrait for your new character etc. It's at least half of the fun and takes me lots of well-spend time too!
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Posté 10 décembre 2010 - 04:58
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My first playthrough of BG2/ToB took me an extremely long time... I wouldn't be surprised if I spent over two hundred hours on that run. It was pretty heart-wrenching by the time I reached the end.
To be fair, though, it look me a while to get the hang of things—the learning curve is considerably steeper than more recent games. Also, I was only twelve or thirteen the first time I played.
Nevertheless, the game is long... considerably longer than DA:O, if you're a completionist.
To be fair, though, it look me a while to get the hang of things—the learning curve is considerably steeper than more recent games. Also, I was only twelve or thirteen the first time I played.
Nevertheless, the game is long... considerably longer than DA:O, if you're a completionist.
Heh, and when you factor all that in you easily propel time spent to exponential, nae existential, proportions.Son of Imoen wrote...
Don't forget the time (for an addict such as I am too), that is spend thinking about the game, planning new parties, hanging around on fora, modding the game (after enormous time spend reading about mods and planning what mods to take). Browsing through portrait sites to search the perfect portrait for your new character etc. It's at least half of the fun and takes me lots of well-spend time too!
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Posté 10 décembre 2010 - 06:21
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IF you do everything, BG games are a lot longer and a lot more deep, just with less talking and quicker load times.
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Posté 10 décembre 2010 - 07:51
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Jokeslayer wrote...
Morbidest wrote...
xx55xx, If you try every side quest - a good idea since it builds up experience points and gives you a stronger party - even vanilla BG2 could easily take you 100+ "game days", and figure 2 earth hours for every Toril game day. So, that's a week and a half unless you insist on wasteing time on side issues like eating, sleeping, and potty breaks
You're greatly overstating the amount of real-time this takes what with reasting and travel times between areas.
Not the first time you play it. You have to allow for the fact that a first time player is going to have to reload several times for many battles. Once you've played it, the real time will drop to the 100 to 150 hour range if you do all the side quests.
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Posté 10 décembre 2010 - 08:53
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A transparently thin excuse to post my Big List Of Everything In BG2!
...the formatting really doesn't come across very well.
Irenicus' Dungeon: Waukeen's Promenade:
[] Collect Dryad Acorns [] Circus Tent
[] Free Genie In The Plane Of Air [] Kill Mencar Pebblecrusher & Co
[] Escape From Irenicus' Dungeon [] Find Cernd's Child
[] Pickpocket Ring Of Regeneration
Slums/Copper Coronet: Graveyard:
[] Speak To Gaelan Bayle [] Mournful Paladin & Orphan Girl
[] Kill Corhvale And Bregg [] Man Buried Alive (Silver Pantaloons)
[] Duel Amalas In Copper Coronet [] Ghost Child & His Teddybear
[] Get De'Arnise Hold Quest from Nalia [] Recover Nether Scrolls For Edwin
[] Get Windspear Hills Quest From Firkraag [] Nevin's Undead Uncle Lester
[] Free Hendak & Slaves [] Crypt King
[] Obtain Lilarcor [] Pai Na & The Spiders
[] Clean Out Slaver Ship [] Thieves Breaking Into Tombs At Night
[] Get Korgan's Book From Crypts [] Staff Of Curing Crypt
[] Mazzy & Gorf the Squisher [] Hear Offer From Bodhi
[] Slavers Escorting Slave To Copper Coronet [] Clean Vampire Nest, Duel Bodhi
[] Obtain Gloves Of Pickpocketing [] Clean Vampire Nest, Kill Bodhi
[] Anomen's Family Trouble
[] Anomen's Knighthood
[] Sewer Myconid Room
[] Pay Gaelan Bayle
City Gate: Between City Areas (Or Multiple Potential Areas):
[] Merchant Accosted By Bully [] Ambush That Drops Arbane
[] Lich In The Wall (Daystar) [] Poisoned Harper (Need: Jaheira In Party)
[] Star Crossed Lovers [] Orog/Slaver Ambush
[] Obtain Tradmeet Quest From Flydian [] Unnamed Bandit Ambushes
[] Githyanki Raid For Silver Blade (Silver Hilt)
Government District: [] Encounter with Vampire Hareishan
[] Keldorn's Family Trouble [] Encounter with Vampire Salia
[] Rescue Viconia From Fanatics [] Encounter with Vampire Del
[] Planar Sphere Quest From Tolgerias [] Encounter with Vampire Parisa
[] Jan Tries To Sell Flashers [] Encounter with Vampire Tanova
[] Jan's Family Troubles [] Imoen/Candlekeep Dream
[] Purchase Magic License [] Irenicus Dream Of Death
[] Umar Hills Quest From Delon [] Irenicus Dream Of Power
[] Slayer Control Dream
[] Ellesime's Warning About Suldanesselar Dream
[] Give Yoshimo Peace In Death (Any Temple Of Ilmatar)
Temple District & Sewers: Bridge District:
[] Uncover Truth About Unseeing Cult [] Skinner Murders
[] Shade Lich (Kangaxx) [] Rescue Haer'Dalis From Mekrath
[] Guarded Compound (Celestial Fury) [] Rescue Haer'Dalis From Planar Prison
[] Commission Statue From Sir Sarles [] Obtain Horn Of Valhalla
[] Recover Ring Of Dawn For Lothander [] Valeria's Random Band Of Goons
[] Hunt Rogue Paladin For NORH [] Empty Building Next To Valeria's (Anhkeg Shell)
[] Mindflayer Lair (Need Key From Windspear) [] Cptn Dennis & Mercs Of Riativin (Limited Wish Quest)
[] Roger The Fence's Troll Problem [] Elemental Lich (Kangaxx)
[] Rakshasa & Kobolds (Sewer Cloak) [] Five Flagons Bartender Gift For Haer'Dalis
[] Tarnor & His Mercenaries [] Five Flagons Bartender Gift For Mazzy
[] Get Mirror From Imp For Mekrath [] Uncover Shadow Thief Traitor For Aran Linvail
[] Bridge Mugger Ambush
[] Twisted Rune Headquarters
[] Qadeel & The Deckhand Ogres
Docks District: Windspear Hills:
[] Rescue Montaron From Harpers [] Return Dryad Acorns
[] Gavelry & Harper Battle [] Pillage Tomb Of King Strohm III
[] Revianne & Dermin Confront Jaheira [] Obtain Sewer Key From Tazok
[] Jaheira Leaves Party & Rescue [] Rescue Garren's Child
[] Dermin Confronts Jaheira Again [] Kill Firkraag
[] Terminsel The Harper
[] Renal Bloodscalp & Mae'Var De'Arnise Hold:
[] Baron Ployer Curses Jaheira [] Assemble Flail Of Ages
[] Pirates Behind Secret Door In Sea's Bounty [] Create Dog Stew, Trick Umber Hulks
[] +1 Axe In Docks Chest [] Open Drawbridge
[] Kill Priest of Cyric [] Kill Torgal
[] Kill Kangaxx [] Nalia's Father's Funeral
[] Speak To Aran Linvail [] Nalia's Kidnapping & Rescue From Isaea
[] Guard Weapon Shipment With Mook
[] Shadow Thief Usurper (Ring Of Lock Picks)
[] Ruffian Captain/Mugger Ambush
Planar Sphere:
[] Launch, Explore Sphere, Defeat Lavok, Return to Athkatla
Umar Hills: Temple Ruins:
[] Investigate Deaths In Umar Hills [] Kill Shade Lord
[] Make Peace Between Town And Madulf [] Kill Thaxll'ssyllia
[] Obtain Berjuril From Chicken [] Rescue Mazzy Fentan
[] Buy Booze & Swords For Kids [] Mazzy's Family Trouble In Trademeet
[] Save Drunken Kids From "Dragon" In Cave [] Restore Romance NPC From Vampirism
[] Coweled Wizard's Golem & Mimic Blood
[] Get Valgyar's Help Opening The Sphere
[] Human Flesh Armor
Trademeet:
[] Neeber [] Clean Troll Mound
[] Pickpocket Genie Flask [] Obtain Belm From Barn
[] Kill Ihtafeer [] Skin Dancers & Return Of The Tanner
[] Wilfred The Red's Lies [] Feuding Houses In Trademeet
[] Defeat Faldorn, Solve Animal Attacks [] Gypsy Fortune Teller
[] Battling Philosophers
Brynnlaw: Spellhold:
[] Saemon's Vampire Ambush [] Speak To Inmates, Find Imoen
[] Kill Perth The Adept [] Obtain Rogue Stone By Dradeel
[] Free Ginia & Her Brother [] Capture By Irenicus, Soul Dream
[] Kill Galvena [] Obtain Bag Of Holding
[] Gain Access To Spellhold [] Statue Item Riddles (Dusty Rose Ioun Stone)
[] Steal Gate Horn From Pirate's King [] Sanity Puzzles (Ring Of Regeneration)
[] Steal Pirate King's Ship with Saemon [] Dimensional Gateway (Doomplate)
[] Kill Priestess Of Umberlee [] Magic Book (Ring Of Free Action)
[] Mithril Tokens (Boots Of The North)
[] Mithril Tokens (Boots Of Grounding)
[] Mithril Tokens (Boots Of Speed)
[] Mithril Tokens (Jester's Chain)
[] Get Cloak Of Reflection From Apparition Room Table
[] Fail Memory Test, Answer Machine Riddle (Bracers AC5)
[] Troll Room (Bone Club)
[] Escape Spellhold Dungeon
[] Recruit Inmates, Defeat Irenicus
Sahaugin City:
[] Align With Sahaugin Faction, Get Rope To Underdark
[] Obtain Cloak Of Mirroring
[] Sea Zombie Lord Room
[] Imp Chest Puzzle
Underdark: Ust Natha:
[] Kill Earth, Air, Fire Respawns By Portals [] Meet Solaufein
[] Kill Mindflayer Trio Near Entrance [] Rescue Phaere From Mindflayers
[] Drow War Party Ambush [] Kill Beholder For Phaere
[] Free Vithal, Loot Other Dimensions [] Kill Deep Gnome Patrol For Phaere
[] The 6 Facets Of The Soul Prism [] Deal With Solaufein For Phaere
[] Help Deep Gnomes Defeat Demon (Light Gem) [] Obtain "Noble Race" Body Parts For Matron Ardulace
[] Speak To Adalon (Drow Illusion) [] Kill Qilue For Aboleth
[] Adventurer Party Ambush While Drow [] Free Human Slaves
[] Kuo-Toa Ambush [] Running Elven Slave Girl
[] Clean Beholder Lair [] Tavern Duels vs Drow
[] Obtain Elder Orb Eyestalk [] Tavern Battles vs Monsters
[] Clean Mindflayer Lair [] Free Tortured Genie
[] Obtain Master Brain Blood [] Jarlaxle & Deirex The Lich
[] Githyanki Ambush (Need: Silver Sword Blade) [] Clear House Jae'llat
[] Clean Kuo-Tua Lair [] Kill Ghaunadaur Worshippers for Taso Kala
[] Obtain Kuo-Tua Prince Blood [] Obtain Silver Dragon Eggs For Adalon
[] Demogorgon Statue/Cambion Ambush
[] Clear Drow Guards From Door To Lead Outside
Exit From Underdark / Small Teeth Pass / North Forest / Forest Of Tethir:
[] Speak To Elhan About Irenicus
[] Return Lanthorn To Elhan
[] Clear Small Teeth Pass Of Random Monsters
[] Kill Wyvern Cultists In North Forest
[] Obtain Loot From North Forest Graves, Defeat Efreeti & Djinni
[] Coran, Safana & Lanfear In Forest Of Tethir
[] Obtain Mana Bow In Forest Of Tethir
Suldanesselar / Hell:
[] Obtain Artifacts of Rillifane, Summon Avatar Of Rillifane
[] Rescue Elves Under Attack From Irenicus' Golems, Demons, & Rakshasa
[] Kill Nizidramanii'yt
[] Cleanse Tree Of Life Of Parasites, Defeat Irenicus
[] Pass Hell Trials, Kill Irenicus
Watcher's Keep
[] Obtain Quest To Seal Keep For Knights
[] Access & Clear All Levels Of Watcher's Keep
[] Deck Of Many Things Duel With Aesgareth
[] Obtain Bonuses From Machine Of Lum The Mad
[] Kill Saladrex
[] Kill Demi-Lich
[] Imprison or Kill Demogorgon
Sacred Grove/ Pocket Plane/ Throne Of Bhaal: Saradush:
[] Listen To Sacred Grove Prophecy [] Defeat Initial Ambush, Speak To Melissan
[] Kill Illasera [] Obtain Key To Gromnir's Castle
[] Donate Portion Of Soul To Sarevok [] Deal With Mateo's Execution
[] Speak To Cespenar [] Ressurect Tazit's Father
[] Complete First Pocket Plane Challenge [] Give Elves Sanctuary From Guards
[] Complete Second Pocket Plane Challenge [] Deal With Dwarves Fighting Guards
[] Complete Third Pocket Plane Challenge [] Help Waitress With Abusive Patron
[] Complete Fourth Pocket Plane Challenge [] Cure Viekang's Fear
[] Complete Fifth Pocket Plane Challenge [] Recover Lazarus' Missing Spellbook
[] Kill Melissan [] Deal With Peljte's Vampires
[] Decide Fate [] Clear Sewers Under Gromnir's Castle
[] Kill Gromnir
North Forest / Forest Of Mir / Marching Mountains / Battlefield Outside Saradush
[] Rescue Merchant From Yaga-Shura's Goons in North Forest
[] Defeat Fire Giants In North Forest
[] Speak to Gorion In Forest of Mir
[] Defeat Master Wraith In Forest Of Mir
[] Speak To Nyalee In Forest Of Mir About Yaga-Shura
[] Defeat Bhaalspawn Horde In Marching Mountains
[] Obtain The Hearts Of Yaga-Shura and Nyalee In Marching Mountains
[] Free Slave Woman In Marching Mountains
[] Give Yaga-Shura's Heart To Nyalee In Forest Of Mir
[] Kill Nyalee In Forest Of Mir
[] Kill Yaga-Shura Outside Saradush
Amkethran:
[] Defeat Oasis Ambush
[] Rescue Mayor's Daughter
[] Meet With Saemon Havarian About Smugglers And Monks
[] Cleric Of Waukeen vs Monk
[] Marlowe, His Daughter, And The Lich
[] Lich's Monster Spawning Tables
[] Finish Construction Of Big Metal Unit
[] Archery Competition With Guards
[] Wipe Out Hostile Mercenaries (After Abizagal & Sendai Are Dead)
[] Wipe Out Hostile Monks (After Abizagal & Sendai Are Dead)
[] Wipe Out Tavern Mercenaries (After Abizagal & Sendai Are Dead)
[] Accept Saemon's Help Getting To Balthazar
[] Kill Balthazar
Abizagal's Enclave: Sendai's Enclave:
[] Speak With Elminster [] Speak To Woodsman, Get Ambushed
[] Defeat Human Draconis [] Clear Through Sendai's Enclave
[] Kill Dragon Draconis [] Kill Odamaron (Lich)
[] Obtain Access To Abizagal's Lair [] Defeat Captain Egiessag
[] Hire Bondari To Obtain Bronze Pantalletes [] Kill Sendai
[] Clear Beholder Lair (Will Not Get Bronze Pantalletes)
[] Kill Fll'Yissetat
[] Defeat Human Abizagal
[] Kill Dragon Abizagal
Item Upgrades:
[] Maheer - Horn Of Valhalla (Diamond) [] Maheer - Horn Of Valhalla (Berjuril)
[] Cromwell - Equalizer [] Cromwell - Wave Halberd
[] Cromwell - Gesen Bow [] Cromwell - Crom Faeyr
[] Cromwell - Mace Of Disruption +2 [] Cromwell - Vorpal Blade
[] Cromwell - Red Dragon Plate [] Cromwell - Shadow Dragon Leather
[] Cromwell - Anhkeg Plate Mail [] Cespenar - Thieves' Hood
[] Cespenar - Heartwood Ring [] Cespenar - Helm Of The Rock
[] Cespenar - Montolio's Cloak [] Cespenar - Wondrous Gloves
[] Cespenar - Blessed Bracers [] Cespenar - Circlet Of Netheril
[] Cespenar - Golem Manual (Clay) [] Cespenar - Golem Manual (Stone)
[] Cespenar - Golem Manual (Juggernaut) [] Cespenar - Improved Cloak Of Protection +2
[] Cespenar - White Dragon Scale Mail [] Cespenar - Blue Dragon Plate
[] Cespenar - Aslyerferund Chain +5 [] Cespenar - Bag Of Plenty +2
[] Cespenar - Erinne Sling +5 [] Cespenar - Fire Tooth +5
[] Cespenar - Quiver Of Plenty +2 [] Cespenar - Darkfire Bow +5
[] Cespenar - Taralash +5 [] Cespenar - Runehammer +5
[] Cespenar - Flail Of Ages +4 [] Cespenar - Flail Of Ages +5
[] Cespenar - Storm Star +5 [] Cespenar - Club Of Detonation +5
[] Cespenar - Hindo's Doom +4 [] Cespenar - Spectral Brand +5
[] Cespenar - Ravager Halberd +6 [] Cespenar - Staff Of The Ram +6
[] Cespenar - Axe Of The Unyielding +5 [] Cespenar - Ixil's Spike +6
[] Cespenar - Dagger Of The Star +5 [] Cespenar - Carsomyr +6
[] Cespenar - Gram The Sword Of Grief +6 [] Cespenar - Purifier +5
[] Cespenar - Foebane +5 [] Cespenar - Angurvadal +5
[] Cespenar - Sword Of Mask +5 [] Cespenar - Quiver Of Plenty +2
...the formatting really doesn't come across very well.
Irenicus' Dungeon: Waukeen's Promenade:
[] Collect Dryad Acorns [] Circus Tent
[] Free Genie In The Plane Of Air [] Kill Mencar Pebblecrusher & Co
[] Escape From Irenicus' Dungeon [] Find Cernd's Child
[] Pickpocket Ring Of Regeneration
Slums/Copper Coronet: Graveyard:
[] Speak To Gaelan Bayle [] Mournful Paladin & Orphan Girl
[] Kill Corhvale And Bregg [] Man Buried Alive (Silver Pantaloons)
[] Duel Amalas In Copper Coronet [] Ghost Child & His Teddybear
[] Get De'Arnise Hold Quest from Nalia [] Recover Nether Scrolls For Edwin
[] Get Windspear Hills Quest From Firkraag [] Nevin's Undead Uncle Lester
[] Free Hendak & Slaves [] Crypt King
[] Obtain Lilarcor [] Pai Na & The Spiders
[] Clean Out Slaver Ship [] Thieves Breaking Into Tombs At Night
[] Get Korgan's Book From Crypts [] Staff Of Curing Crypt
[] Mazzy & Gorf the Squisher [] Hear Offer From Bodhi
[] Slavers Escorting Slave To Copper Coronet [] Clean Vampire Nest, Duel Bodhi
[] Obtain Gloves Of Pickpocketing [] Clean Vampire Nest, Kill Bodhi
[] Anomen's Family Trouble
[] Anomen's Knighthood
[] Sewer Myconid Room
[] Pay Gaelan Bayle
City Gate: Between City Areas (Or Multiple Potential Areas):
[] Merchant Accosted By Bully [] Ambush That Drops Arbane
[] Lich In The Wall (Daystar) [] Poisoned Harper (Need: Jaheira In Party)
[] Star Crossed Lovers [] Orog/Slaver Ambush
[] Obtain Tradmeet Quest From Flydian [] Unnamed Bandit Ambushes
[] Githyanki Raid For Silver Blade (Silver Hilt)
Government District: [] Encounter with Vampire Hareishan
[] Keldorn's Family Trouble [] Encounter with Vampire Salia
[] Rescue Viconia From Fanatics [] Encounter with Vampire Del
[] Planar Sphere Quest From Tolgerias [] Encounter with Vampire Parisa
[] Jan Tries To Sell Flashers [] Encounter with Vampire Tanova
[] Jan's Family Troubles [] Imoen/Candlekeep Dream
[] Purchase Magic License [] Irenicus Dream Of Death
[] Umar Hills Quest From Delon [] Irenicus Dream Of Power
[] Slayer Control Dream
[] Ellesime's Warning About Suldanesselar Dream
[] Give Yoshimo Peace In Death (Any Temple Of Ilmatar)
Temple District & Sewers: Bridge District:
[] Uncover Truth About Unseeing Cult [] Skinner Murders
[] Shade Lich (Kangaxx) [] Rescue Haer'Dalis From Mekrath
[] Guarded Compound (Celestial Fury) [] Rescue Haer'Dalis From Planar Prison
[] Commission Statue From Sir Sarles [] Obtain Horn Of Valhalla
[] Recover Ring Of Dawn For Lothander [] Valeria's Random Band Of Goons
[] Hunt Rogue Paladin For NORH [] Empty Building Next To Valeria's (Anhkeg Shell)
[] Mindflayer Lair (Need Key From Windspear) [] Cptn Dennis & Mercs Of Riativin (Limited Wish Quest)
[] Roger The Fence's Troll Problem [] Elemental Lich (Kangaxx)
[] Rakshasa & Kobolds (Sewer Cloak) [] Five Flagons Bartender Gift For Haer'Dalis
[] Tarnor & His Mercenaries [] Five Flagons Bartender Gift For Mazzy
[] Get Mirror From Imp For Mekrath [] Uncover Shadow Thief Traitor For Aran Linvail
[] Bridge Mugger Ambush
[] Twisted Rune Headquarters
[] Qadeel & The Deckhand Ogres
Docks District: Windspear Hills:
[] Rescue Montaron From Harpers [] Return Dryad Acorns
[] Gavelry & Harper Battle [] Pillage Tomb Of King Strohm III
[] Revianne & Dermin Confront Jaheira [] Obtain Sewer Key From Tazok
[] Jaheira Leaves Party & Rescue [] Rescue Garren's Child
[] Dermin Confronts Jaheira Again [] Kill Firkraag
[] Terminsel The Harper
[] Renal Bloodscalp & Mae'Var De'Arnise Hold:
[] Baron Ployer Curses Jaheira [] Assemble Flail Of Ages
[] Pirates Behind Secret Door In Sea's Bounty [] Create Dog Stew, Trick Umber Hulks
[] +1 Axe In Docks Chest [] Open Drawbridge
[] Kill Priest of Cyric [] Kill Torgal
[] Kill Kangaxx [] Nalia's Father's Funeral
[] Speak To Aran Linvail [] Nalia's Kidnapping & Rescue From Isaea
[] Guard Weapon Shipment With Mook
[] Shadow Thief Usurper (Ring Of Lock Picks)
[] Ruffian Captain/Mugger Ambush
Planar Sphere:
[] Launch, Explore Sphere, Defeat Lavok, Return to Athkatla
Umar Hills: Temple Ruins:
[] Investigate Deaths In Umar Hills [] Kill Shade Lord
[] Make Peace Between Town And Madulf [] Kill Thaxll'ssyllia
[] Obtain Berjuril From Chicken [] Rescue Mazzy Fentan
[] Buy Booze & Swords For Kids [] Mazzy's Family Trouble In Trademeet
[] Save Drunken Kids From "Dragon" In Cave [] Restore Romance NPC From Vampirism
[] Coweled Wizard's Golem & Mimic Blood
[] Get Valgyar's Help Opening The Sphere
[] Human Flesh Armor
Trademeet:
[] Neeber [] Clean Troll Mound
[] Pickpocket Genie Flask [] Obtain Belm From Barn
[] Kill Ihtafeer [] Skin Dancers & Return Of The Tanner
[] Wilfred The Red's Lies [] Feuding Houses In Trademeet
[] Defeat Faldorn, Solve Animal Attacks [] Gypsy Fortune Teller
[] Battling Philosophers
Brynnlaw: Spellhold:
[] Saemon's Vampire Ambush [] Speak To Inmates, Find Imoen
[] Kill Perth The Adept [] Obtain Rogue Stone By Dradeel
[] Free Ginia & Her Brother [] Capture By Irenicus, Soul Dream
[] Kill Galvena [] Obtain Bag Of Holding
[] Gain Access To Spellhold [] Statue Item Riddles (Dusty Rose Ioun Stone)
[] Steal Gate Horn From Pirate's King [] Sanity Puzzles (Ring Of Regeneration)
[] Steal Pirate King's Ship with Saemon [] Dimensional Gateway (Doomplate)
[] Kill Priestess Of Umberlee [] Magic Book (Ring Of Free Action)
[] Mithril Tokens (Boots Of The North)
[] Mithril Tokens (Boots Of Grounding)
[] Mithril Tokens (Boots Of Speed)
[] Mithril Tokens (Jester's Chain)
[] Get Cloak Of Reflection From Apparition Room Table
[] Fail Memory Test, Answer Machine Riddle (Bracers AC5)
[] Troll Room (Bone Club)
[] Escape Spellhold Dungeon
[] Recruit Inmates, Defeat Irenicus
Sahaugin City:
[] Align With Sahaugin Faction, Get Rope To Underdark
[] Obtain Cloak Of Mirroring
[] Sea Zombie Lord Room
[] Imp Chest Puzzle
Underdark: Ust Natha:
[] Kill Earth, Air, Fire Respawns By Portals [] Meet Solaufein
[] Kill Mindflayer Trio Near Entrance [] Rescue Phaere From Mindflayers
[] Drow War Party Ambush [] Kill Beholder For Phaere
[] Free Vithal, Loot Other Dimensions [] Kill Deep Gnome Patrol For Phaere
[] The 6 Facets Of The Soul Prism [] Deal With Solaufein For Phaere
[] Help Deep Gnomes Defeat Demon (Light Gem) [] Obtain "Noble Race" Body Parts For Matron Ardulace
[] Speak To Adalon (Drow Illusion) [] Kill Qilue For Aboleth
[] Adventurer Party Ambush While Drow [] Free Human Slaves
[] Kuo-Toa Ambush [] Running Elven Slave Girl
[] Clean Beholder Lair [] Tavern Duels vs Drow
[] Obtain Elder Orb Eyestalk [] Tavern Battles vs Monsters
[] Clean Mindflayer Lair [] Free Tortured Genie
[] Obtain Master Brain Blood [] Jarlaxle & Deirex The Lich
[] Githyanki Ambush (Need: Silver Sword Blade) [] Clear House Jae'llat
[] Clean Kuo-Tua Lair [] Kill Ghaunadaur Worshippers for Taso Kala
[] Obtain Kuo-Tua Prince Blood [] Obtain Silver Dragon Eggs For Adalon
[] Demogorgon Statue/Cambion Ambush
[] Clear Drow Guards From Door To Lead Outside
Exit From Underdark / Small Teeth Pass / North Forest / Forest Of Tethir:
[] Speak To Elhan About Irenicus
[] Return Lanthorn To Elhan
[] Clear Small Teeth Pass Of Random Monsters
[] Kill Wyvern Cultists In North Forest
[] Obtain Loot From North Forest Graves, Defeat Efreeti & Djinni
[] Coran, Safana & Lanfear In Forest Of Tethir
[] Obtain Mana Bow In Forest Of Tethir
Suldanesselar / Hell:
[] Obtain Artifacts of Rillifane, Summon Avatar Of Rillifane
[] Rescue Elves Under Attack From Irenicus' Golems, Demons, & Rakshasa
[] Kill Nizidramanii'yt
[] Cleanse Tree Of Life Of Parasites, Defeat Irenicus
[] Pass Hell Trials, Kill Irenicus
Watcher's Keep
[] Obtain Quest To Seal Keep For Knights
[] Access & Clear All Levels Of Watcher's Keep
[] Deck Of Many Things Duel With Aesgareth
[] Obtain Bonuses From Machine Of Lum The Mad
[] Kill Saladrex
[] Kill Demi-Lich
[] Imprison or Kill Demogorgon
Sacred Grove/ Pocket Plane/ Throne Of Bhaal: Saradush:
[] Listen To Sacred Grove Prophecy [] Defeat Initial Ambush, Speak To Melissan
[] Kill Illasera [] Obtain Key To Gromnir's Castle
[] Donate Portion Of Soul To Sarevok [] Deal With Mateo's Execution
[] Speak To Cespenar [] Ressurect Tazit's Father
[] Complete First Pocket Plane Challenge [] Give Elves Sanctuary From Guards
[] Complete Second Pocket Plane Challenge [] Deal With Dwarves Fighting Guards
[] Complete Third Pocket Plane Challenge [] Help Waitress With Abusive Patron
[] Complete Fourth Pocket Plane Challenge [] Cure Viekang's Fear
[] Complete Fifth Pocket Plane Challenge [] Recover Lazarus' Missing Spellbook
[] Kill Melissan [] Deal With Peljte's Vampires
[] Decide Fate [] Clear Sewers Under Gromnir's Castle
[] Kill Gromnir
North Forest / Forest Of Mir / Marching Mountains / Battlefield Outside Saradush
[] Rescue Merchant From Yaga-Shura's Goons in North Forest
[] Defeat Fire Giants In North Forest
[] Speak to Gorion In Forest of Mir
[] Defeat Master Wraith In Forest Of Mir
[] Speak To Nyalee In Forest Of Mir About Yaga-Shura
[] Defeat Bhaalspawn Horde In Marching Mountains
[] Obtain The Hearts Of Yaga-Shura and Nyalee In Marching Mountains
[] Free Slave Woman In Marching Mountains
[] Give Yaga-Shura's Heart To Nyalee In Forest Of Mir
[] Kill Nyalee In Forest Of Mir
[] Kill Yaga-Shura Outside Saradush
Amkethran:
[] Defeat Oasis Ambush
[] Rescue Mayor's Daughter
[] Meet With Saemon Havarian About Smugglers And Monks
[] Cleric Of Waukeen vs Monk
[] Marlowe, His Daughter, And The Lich
[] Lich's Monster Spawning Tables
[] Finish Construction Of Big Metal Unit
[] Archery Competition With Guards
[] Wipe Out Hostile Mercenaries (After Abizagal & Sendai Are Dead)
[] Wipe Out Hostile Monks (After Abizagal & Sendai Are Dead)
[] Wipe Out Tavern Mercenaries (After Abizagal & Sendai Are Dead)
[] Accept Saemon's Help Getting To Balthazar
[] Kill Balthazar
Abizagal's Enclave: Sendai's Enclave:
[] Speak With Elminster [] Speak To Woodsman, Get Ambushed
[] Defeat Human Draconis [] Clear Through Sendai's Enclave
[] Kill Dragon Draconis [] Kill Odamaron (Lich)
[] Obtain Access To Abizagal's Lair [] Defeat Captain Egiessag
[] Hire Bondari To Obtain Bronze Pantalletes [] Kill Sendai
[] Clear Beholder Lair (Will Not Get Bronze Pantalletes)
[] Kill Fll'Yissetat
[] Defeat Human Abizagal
[] Kill Dragon Abizagal
Item Upgrades:
[] Maheer - Horn Of Valhalla (Diamond) [] Maheer - Horn Of Valhalla (Berjuril)
[] Cromwell - Equalizer [] Cromwell - Wave Halberd
[] Cromwell - Gesen Bow [] Cromwell - Crom Faeyr
[] Cromwell - Mace Of Disruption +2 [] Cromwell - Vorpal Blade
[] Cromwell - Red Dragon Plate [] Cromwell - Shadow Dragon Leather
[] Cromwell - Anhkeg Plate Mail [] Cespenar - Thieves' Hood
[] Cespenar - Heartwood Ring [] Cespenar - Helm Of The Rock
[] Cespenar - Montolio's Cloak [] Cespenar - Wondrous Gloves
[] Cespenar - Blessed Bracers [] Cespenar - Circlet Of Netheril
[] Cespenar - Golem Manual (Clay) [] Cespenar - Golem Manual (Stone)
[] Cespenar - Golem Manual (Juggernaut) [] Cespenar - Improved Cloak Of Protection +2
[] Cespenar - White Dragon Scale Mail [] Cespenar - Blue Dragon Plate
[] Cespenar - Aslyerferund Chain +5 [] Cespenar - Bag Of Plenty +2
[] Cespenar - Erinne Sling +5 [] Cespenar - Fire Tooth +5
[] Cespenar - Quiver Of Plenty +2 [] Cespenar - Darkfire Bow +5
[] Cespenar - Taralash +5 [] Cespenar - Runehammer +5
[] Cespenar - Flail Of Ages +4 [] Cespenar - Flail Of Ages +5
[] Cespenar - Storm Star +5 [] Cespenar - Club Of Detonation +5
[] Cespenar - Hindo's Doom +4 [] Cespenar - Spectral Brand +5
[] Cespenar - Ravager Halberd +6 [] Cespenar - Staff Of The Ram +6
[] Cespenar - Axe Of The Unyielding +5 [] Cespenar - Ixil's Spike +6
[] Cespenar - Dagger Of The Star +5 [] Cespenar - Carsomyr +6
[] Cespenar - Gram The Sword Of Grief +6 [] Cespenar - Purifier +5
[] Cespenar - Foebane +5 [] Cespenar - Angurvadal +5
[] Cespenar - Sword Of Mask +5 [] Cespenar - Quiver Of Plenty +2
Modifié par Matuse, 10 décembre 2010 - 09:04 .
#19
Posté 11 décembre 2010 - 04:48
Fallschirmjager007
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Hmm, 200 hours might be exaggerating for a single playthrough, but it is still quite a lot. On one of my recent playthroughs, I did damn near every sidequest possible, and it took me about 50 hours to do SoA and 15-20 for ToB. And this was after I had played the game multiple times, so I knew the shortcuts, what to do, etc... I'd estimate for a new player you could easily top 100 hours for your first playthrough.
And the awesome thing about BG2 is the amazing replay value the games have. I've probably done 8-9 full runthroughs over the last ten years (it's kind of an annual thing for me
), which amounts to quite a bit of my life invested in this game.
And the awesome thing about BG2 is the amazing replay value the games have. I've probably done 8-9 full runthroughs over the last ten years (it's kind of an annual thing for me
), which amounts to quite a bit of my life invested in this game.
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Posté 11 décembre 2010 - 06:58
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A lot depends on your playstyle. If you don't look at walkthroughs, but do want to find as many quests as possible yourself then I think 200 hours is probably too low (takes a long time to talk to every person and explore fully all buildings and locations). Just buying / stealing / learning / re-learning spells would take you around 10 hours if you're into that. If you have no idea of where traps are and wish to play no or minimal reloads this cuts progress by at least 60% in many areas. I haven't played on anything but 60 frames a minute for many years, but a new player would probably want to start at 30. You might well also be determined to conquer a challenge that is really too hard for you - say main character hangs back invisible from party attacking a monster; collects valuable items on their bodies; goes home to raise them; comes back; goes home; comes back ... This can radically slow progress, but there is a huge feeling of achievement if you can conquer an unknown, difficult obstacle without having to reload the game.
Modifié par Grond0, 11 décembre 2010 - 07:01 .
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Posté 11 décembre 2010 - 11:22
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Matuse wrote...
A transparently thin excuse to post my Big List Of Everything In BG2!
Wow I've missed a lot!
Modifié par wise grimwald, 11 décembre 2010 - 11:24 .
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Posté 13 décembre 2010 - 06:24
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Man just reading that list gives me a wave of nostalgia- DA:O is seriously lacking in questing and story in comparison.
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 10:37
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My brother has BG2 with ToB and SoAmn.
I never played! Always wanted to - actually gave it a try years ago, but got messed up with the controls. I'm reserving some special time for this, kinda like a project to dedicate to...
No, I've always wanted to create a party - 4 members, though there are so many cool classes... Would anyone start with a 4-member party, not even taking anyone who offers to join? COz I kinda have a pretty good and tight idea of what the part should be... But I'm all years!
I never played! Always wanted to - actually gave it a try years ago, but got messed up with the controls. I'm reserving some special time for this, kinda like a project to dedicate to...
No, I've always wanted to create a party - 4 members, though there are so many cool classes... Would anyone start with a 4-member party, not even taking anyone who offers to join? COz I kinda have a pretty good and tight idea of what the part should be... But I'm all years!
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 10:44
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If it's your first time, take the NPCs that Bioware offers. One of Baldur's Gate II's main selling points are the NPCs, and even if inner-party interaction isn't anything too special anymore nowadays, you still shouldn't miss out on it if you want to get to know the game.
If you are set on the classes you picked out, google for "level 1 NPCs mod BG2".
If you are set on the classes you picked out, google for "level 1 NPCs mod BG2".
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Posté 19 décembre 2010 - 10:45
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philty wrote...
My brother has BG2 with ToB and SoAmn.
I never played! Always wanted to - actually gave it a try years ago, but got messed up with the controls. I'm reserving some special time for this, kinda like a project to dedicate to...
No, I've always wanted to create a party - 4 members, though there are so many cool classes... Would anyone start with a 4-member party, not even taking anyone who offers to join? COz I kinda have a pretty good and tight idea of what the part should be... But I'm all years!
You can create all your own characters if you want to, but part of the enjoyment of the game comes from the character interaction, and if you create all the characters, you will miss out on that. There is a mod that will let you alter the classes of the existing characters if you had some other classes in mind, and this will preserve all the dialogue. If you're just a perfectionist who must play with every character having a stat of 18, then there is a cheat program that can do that for you as well.
