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[Busomjack]

I don't know about you guys but I just get a bit of a creepy vibe from the character.  He doesn't seem quite sincere in his motives and I think he's hiding something.  When asked about the N7 armor why didn't he just say "no data available" from the beginning?  I think he was trying to dodge the question because he has alterior motives.

[atheelogos]

Busomjack wrote...

I don't know about you guys but I just get a bit of a creepy vibe from the character.  He doesn't seem quite sincere in his motives and I think he's hiding something.  When asked about the N7 armor why didn't he just say "no data available" from the beginning?  I think he was trying to dodge the question because he has alterior motives.

No he dodged the question because he didn't fully understand why he wanted it. It sounds like he's experiencing things Geth have never felt before.

[Busomjack]

atheelogos wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

I don't know about you guys but I just get a bit of a creepy vibe from the character.  He doesn't seem quite sincere in his motives and I think he's hiding something.  When asked about the N7 armor why didn't he just say "no data available" from the beginning?  I think he was trying to dodge the question because he has alterior motives.

No he dodged the question because he didn't fully understand why he wanted it. It sounds like he's experiencing things Geth have never felt before.

That's still speculation and it may be true but I think Legion is supposed to be enigmatic.  

[Mikenator700]

I'd trust Legion more than Jack or Zaeed. The poor guy's just trying to figure out how we organics work, slow it may be, to try to work out peace between at least the quarians.

I don't think he'd spend all those hours and credits on mmorpg's just because he was bored.

[chris025657]

 I remembered some post months ago about a cut storyline involving Legion and Liara rescuing Shepard, but I'm not sure how reliable this anonymous post from a supposed Bioware writer was. However, it would explain a lot such as Legion's evasion on how he got the armor.

I seem to remember that there was originally a full fledged mission in between the SR1 biting the dust and Shepard reawakening, in case anyone has wondered where the extra voice acting comes from. I'm not spoilering anything here since none of it made it into the game and it doesn't actually delve into any late game plot. 

You started off as Legion, unfolding from a cargo box that you had sneaked into aboard the Shadowthrone, the Shadow Broker courier frigate with your body on board. After a few minutes of sneaking, you start hearing gunshots and reports of an intruder over the intercom. Eventually you met Liara, who was on her own mission to steal the corpse. After a heated mexican stand, Liara and Legion teamed up to steal the corpse on agreement that she got to take it where she wanted(Cerberus). Over the course of the mission, you played as Legion and inquired about Shepard's decisions based on your investigations. In this manner, it was originally set up to allow you to customize an ME1 game's choices through your dialogs with Liara. 

After a few short gunfights, they were to finally get to Liara's small infiltration ship, but not before having to take of Shepard's armor off order to get him/her into Liara's containment field to keep the body from falling apart. On his way into the ship, Legion was to be shot and disabled as well as given his iconic wound. It was then to shift into first person and you see Liara close the door and launch her small ship from the airlock. A -NO FEED- was to come up on the screen in red and then fade from view, followed by Shepard fading in and out and seeing Miranda. The game then continued as normal until you got to the first missions. 

On your way to Omega for the first recruitment, you picked up a distress signal from the Shadowthrone. Miranda was to recognize it as the ship that your corpse had been stolen off of. It's beacon suggested that it had been adrift for nearly two years. Knowing that agent that had bought you from had left the ship functional and suspecting that it had something to do with the disappearances, she suggests boarding the ship to investigate. Once on board, you discover that Legion had reactivated and repaired himself with the armor that had been pulled off of you. He had then hunted down and killed the entire crew but had accidentally caused irreparable damage to its drives. To save energy in the powerless ship, he went into a hibernation mode. You find the hibernating Legion in the engine room and remove him, leaving you with the choice of whether or not to activate him. 

In the end it was scrapped because it was seen as too confusing for players new to the series. It was also redundant to have Legion tell his unique story to Liara in the beginning and then to Shepard again less than two gameplay hours later. Additionally, it was seen as too different from ME1 to have the player's first shooting battles be as a Geth against humans. The comics were given an OK instead to fill the gap and some friend for Liara was created to take the place of Legion. 

A lot of assets, like Legion's Shepard Armor repair or much of the unused dialog, were left in game with little or no explanation. In the case of the former, it went from causing a long conversation about how he stalked the crew of the Shadowthrone to "No Data Found." Much of the lost dialog, like his lines before he can be acquired, were just left since he would never be there to trigger them. Other dialogs, for instance he had a long dialog with Liara if you brought him to Illium, never even made it off the paper. Most of the assets were retooled though, like the SR2 Cargo bay that was originally Legion's starting point in the mission. The Crashing Ship mission is almost a direct usage of most of the Shadowthrone's assets, complete with the engine room where you were supposed to find him in up where you now turn the engines on. 

Additionally, Veetor was a relatively late addition to the game. Originally you met Tali on Freedom's progress and she joined you from there, but that was scrapped for reasons I don't know. Similarly though, many of her lost dialogs were just left in since she would never be there to trigger them without hacking the game.

Modifié par chris025657, 09 décembre 2010 - 08:22 .

[CroGamer002]

Short answer.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

[Terraneaux]

thurmanator692 wrote...

He's way to good a dancer not to be trusted.

One of the few teammates who we can categorically acknowledge has something on Shepard... that robot can dance!

[Manic Sheep]

Eh, don't particularly trust him but I don't not trust him either, if that makes sense? I'm not necessarily expecting him stab me in the back but I’m definitely not going to rely on the idea that he won't. I trust him more that Jack and Zaeed at least.
The NZ armor thing just confuses him I think. He performed an irrational action and doesn’t understand why. Beginnings of emotion maybe? Of course this is just speculation but I don’t really see how patching himself with NZ armor could have harmful ulterior motives.

Modifié par Manic Sheep, 09 décembre 2010 - 08:40 .

[Praetor Knight]

Manic Sheep wrote...

The NZ armor thing just confuses him I think. He performed an irrational action and doesn’t understand why. Beginnings of emotion maybe? Of course this is just speculation but I don’t really see how patching himself with NZ armor could have harmful ulterior motives.

Kinda reminds me of Johnny Five from Short Circuit; he's alive!

[speculation here] Legion's unique sentience might have started when Legion got shot in the chest and possibly started to diverge from other Geth, then he gets knocked out on the dead reaper, gets rescued (assuming he's reactivated) and then he's still figuring things out (like emotion) when Shep asks.

Either way, I wonder what will become of Legion in ME3.

Modifié par Praetor Shepard, 09 décembre 2010 - 09:07 .

[008Zulu]

thurmanator692 wrote...

He's way to good a dancer not to be trusted.

Is he a robot dancer or does he dance the robot?


While I don't trust Legion, I don't not trust him. That is to say, I trust that he wont do anything to disrupt the mission but I wouldn't trust him to feed my fish.

[lovgreno]

Mikenator700 wrote...

I'd trust Legion more than Jack or Zaeed. The poor guy's just trying to figure out how we organics work, slow it may be, to try to work out peace between at least the quarians.
I don't think he'd spend all those hours and credits on mmorpg's just because he was bored.

Yes that is probably true but from Shepards point of wiev it should still be hard to trust a Geth. The only communication Shep and everyone else had with the geth was trying to not get killed by them and now one of them wants to be trusted just because he says so? I would be suspicious in that situation.

[TexasToast712]

008Zulu wrote...

thurmanator692 wrote...

He's way to good a dancer not to be trusted.

Is he a robot dancer or does he dance the robot?


While I don't trust Legion, I don't not trust him. That is to say, I trust that he wont do anything to disrupt the mission but I wouldn't trust him to feed my fish.

I would

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

I do not trust him in the least. I almost always give him over to Cerberus for study.

[Vaenier]

Trust him with my life. Not the galaxy, but my life atleast. He did save Shep on the dead reaper, could have easily killed her there.

I trust him a hell of alot more than half the crew. Why the **** is Jack still on my ship?!?

[Merlin 47]

I trust him more than the person that brought me back to life.....and Vaenier is right. Legion could have EASILY dispatched me on the derelict reaper. No...I trust him.

[Googlesaurus]

He's never let me done.

[Inquisitor Recon]

I don't trust him. If there is a chance to dispose of him come ME3, I will probably take it.

[Googlesaurus]

ReconTeam wrote...

I don't trust him. If there is a chance to dispose of him come ME3, I will probably take it.

*turian handwave*

You humans are all racist!

[Xilizhra]

Easily enough. Legion's never given me cause to distrust them.

[dgcatanisiri]

I'm a sucker for the puppy-dog eyes they make. I don't know HOW you can make a puppy dog pout when you only have a lamp for a head, but they do it.

[Mecha Tengu]

I trust legion with my life



Geez guise, how can you have secks with a Cerberus operative that supervised your plastic surgery for 2 years but not trust a friendly robot that saved your life.



Movies always tell me to trust the friendly robot with my life! ( I Robot, Terminator, The Day the Earth stood still, Star Wars, transformers , uh...... gundam)

[Giggles_Manically]

I do for know.

He saved my life, so I saved his from Derperus.



The beginning of a true bromance there.

[aeetos21]

he has one hell of a poker face...