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#26
Sparda Stonerule

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I trust him as much as I trust EDI, so quite a lot.

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Telemachus78

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I trust it as wide as it can smile so not at all.

Modifié par Telemachus78, 10 décembre 2010 - 12:04 .


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Legion explained why mutual cooperation benefits not just Shepard but the true geth. I assume as long as I don't mess with the true geth, Legion has no reason to harm me. And I don't intend to go there, so yes I can trust Legion. Also when I need cold hard facts backed up by logical or mathematical facts, Legion is your geth. Just don't play first person shooter or chess games with him.

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Given the opportunity it had to kill me on the derelict Reaper I don't see any reason to not trust it as of yet. Still, I don't consider it a life form, synthetic or otherwise but that aside, it's "consensus" to fight the Reapers matches my goals so along he comes to shoot people who get in my way in the head with its sniper rifle.

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Legion is both open about his motives, his allegiance and function and is openly trusting in Shepard, without reservation (just look at his LM or the tali/Legion gambit ). He admits to gaps in his knowledge and is not prone to most emotion - except perhaps on the N7 armour question. What guile or deception is there ?

Looking over the recruited crew for the SM he is by far the most trustworthy entity aboard besides Garrus and Mordin... and Joker. As for everybody else .....

Miranda = cunning and manipulative (just ask Jacob) Cerberus agent. Trust seems risky, if possible.
Jacob = seems witless half of the time, is wrong the other half. No way I trust in him
Thane = ex-professional assassin with a wonky excuse for not being responsible for anything at all . No trust in this life
Samara = driven, semi-religious spiritual warrior. I don't trust extremist proponents of faith-based dogma, period
Zaeed = would sell, or rather probably has sold his grandmother for a nice gun.
Kasumi = professional thief and Con-Artist... sure, I trust her^^ Actually I'd like to , but... common sense kicks in.
Grunt = can only be relied on to be violent and clueless. No trust
Jack = wtf, trust her ?
Tali = confused, out-of -her-depth, naive and obviously inexperienced Quarian (fangirl). Trust ? Ask me 20 years down the river.

Yeah, I trust Legion far more than this Rogue's Gallery of "Shepard's Misfits"

Modifié par achwas, 10 décembre 2010 - 12:26 .


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Legion is my favorite squadmate and character from ME2. It's regretful that we don't get him... err them, until so late into the game. I really hope he's available in ME3.

I trust Legion not only because he saved Shep's life but also because he's a completely unique Geth. Not only is he part of the "True Geth" but he's also the only known mobile platform created by the Geth with the ability to adapt, network and form a concensus all within it's own platform.

I believe this makes Legion incredibly unique and almost a sort of evolution among the Geth. In a sense, Legion is capable of thinking for himself whereas other Geth have to network with one another to gain the benefits of the intelligence that is bestowed upon Legion due to his, I believe 1,183 programs.

It is this reason that I trust him. He's making his own decisions and choosing to follow Shepard. I'm not sure if he's capable of loyalty as we understand it due to his apparent lack of emotions. But hey... that never stopped Data from saving Picard's ass did it? :P

Modifié par Scobill, 10 décembre 2010 - 12:51 .


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I actually do trust him. He's too sincere to lie very well. :P

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achwas wrote...

Tali = confused, out-of -her-depth, naive and obviously inexperienced Quarian (fangirl). Trust ? Ask me 20 years down the river.

Yeah, I trust Legion far more than this Rogue's Gallery of "Shepard's Misfits"


I agree with you about the squad except for Tali. IIRC, she' supposed to be one of the Quarians most gifted tech experts so she's hardly inexperienced in that regard.  Is she out of her depth in that she gets herself into situations she can't get herself out of?  Given that when you recruit her in ME you had to save her from Fist and in ME2 you save her TWICE I'd say yes to that to a point.  It's not that's she's not capable it's just that she somehow winds up in situations that are beyond most anybody to handle and fortunately for her, Shepard is capable of the impossible and has been there for he in her time of need.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

I do for know.
He saved my life, so I saved his from Derperus.

The beginning of a true bromance there.

You got a point there. If Failberus had got their clumsy hands on them it would probably have ended with yet another base overrun with a failed experiment, this time rampaging Legion clones. Best for everyone if Legion is on board the Normandy where Shep can at least observe them untill he/she know them well enough to trust them.

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I trust Legion because being betrayed by a geth is just too damn obvious.

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Sure, why not?

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Trust him in what respect?



Do I trust him to keep anything I say a secret? No.



Do I trust him to never fight against Organics or the Quarians? No.



Do I trust him to not attempt espionage? No.



Do I trust him not to potentially turn on me if the Geth deem it necessary? No.



Do I trust him to be completely honest? No.



Do I trust him to be more beneficial than not? Sure.

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I trust him (them?). He had Shep right in his scope, an easy headshot and didn't take it. He trusts Shep enough to make the decision about what happens to the Heretic Station (maybe "trust" is the wrong word, but he lets Shep make the decision - a decision that could effect his entire "race", in human terms, that's trust). He says himself that Geth lack perspective. Without perspective, it isn't even possible to betray Shep. He's working on cold logic and mathematics, and even the most basic logic says "Reapers will enslave Geth, I am Geth, I dont want to be enslaved. Shepard fights Reapers. Therefore, Shepard helps Geth". I think he understands that much. After the Reaper threat is dealt with, who knows what he'd do (probably become an extranet sensation in the video-game world, given his hacking skills), but while the Reapers are a threat, I trust him. He didn't seem to have a problem going onto the Flotilla with my Shep, and he didnt spaz and kill every Quarian he met. He seems relatively safe for now. And like others have pointed out, Shep's rag-tag crew all have their reasons to betray/screw-over/complicate Shep's mission (in fact, I actually expect the Virmire Survivor to play this role sometime in the future, but thats speculation) The only totally loyal/harmless crew Shep has is Mordin, Joker, Chakwas and Garrus. Everyone else has a pretty justifiable reason to plot against Shepard, based on your actions in the game.

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I trust him about as far as I could throw him. However, Shepard or the Shepard I'm playing does trust him and more than anything else sees the need to build bridges rather than burning them, so to speak. I would honestly love for that to come back and bite me in the ass.

Modifié par Kenthen, 10 décembre 2010 - 02:20 .


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Hes never given you a reason NOT to trust him...

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Legion has had numerous chances to take over the SR2's systems and kill everyone on board, as well as lead them in to an ambush. I think they mean well and are coming to grips with emotion, understanding and compassion, like when you ask them why they used the N7 armour.

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It thinks logically and logical thinkers can't be trusted cause in the end they will choose themselves over others.

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he is better than TIM. so I trust him. but I don't trust TIM. he is bad ass. at least, Legion doesn't have emotionally shown his attitude. he is a cybog but can't really think like human. so it's safe to trust him. at least he is not a liar.

Modifié par archurban, 10 décembre 2010 - 02:59 .


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I like how everyone trusts Legion because it hasn't done anything to harm Shepard and co. Now personally I do more or less trust Legion. However, and I'm just throwing this out there, but what if he is observing Shepard for a far darker purpose, maybe Harbinger or the Geth's spy or something, in order to gain information about humanity or something? After all, Shepard isn't all there is to the galaxy.

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@EffectedByTheMasses: Nah. Like I said, too obvious. If Garrus was a traitor, now that I'd never see coming!

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

@EffectedByTheMasses: Nah. Like I said, too obvious. If Garrus was a traitor, now that I'd never see coming!


Now that would be interesting. As for Legion, the fact that the vast majority of people trust Legion could easily be reason for BW to make him a traitor, or if not then someone with ulterior motives for joining Shepard.

Modifié par EffectedByTheMasses, 10 décembre 2010 - 03:03 .


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Though playing ME1 over again has made me less trusting of Legion, the words of Sovereign "We are legion." and the name of a geth ( part of a species that worshipped Reapers ), being the same is too coincedental, I think Legion will play a big part in the next game that's for sure.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

I trust Legion because being betrayed by a geth is just too damn obvious.


I lol'd
I lol'd hard.
I'm pretty sure that when the actual game tells you that they're "loyal" then thats a good hint that they're trustworthy. I wouldnt trust any of them to watch my kids or anything, but I would never expect them to double cross me.

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EffectedByTheMasses wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

@EffectedByTheMasses: Nah. Like I said, too obvious. If Garrus was a traitor, now that I'd never see coming!


Now that would be interesting. As for Legion, the fact that the vast majority of people trust Legion could easily be reason for BW to make him a traitor, or if not then someone with ulterior motives for joining Shepard.


How do we even know there's going to be a traitor? Honestly does everything need to have a double cross plot twist?

OT: Anyway, I trusted Legion largely because ever since Tali told me about the Quarian/Geth war I have felt sympathy for the Geth and wanted to see both perspectives of this whole situation. I think it would be very tragic if Bioware undid all the effort put in with Legion to make the Geth more sympathetic in favor of turning him into a straight up evil villain.

In any case, Legion lets you decide the fate of the Heretic station, either reprogramming or killing a base worth of heretics and afterwards becomes loyal. Also Legion happily works with you in the final mission and puts himself at risk, in fact, the fact that he can die in the mission tells me that Bioware probably aren't planning to make his 'transformation to evil villain' a priority.
After all, much like with Ashley, Kaiden and Wrex... the fact that he now could be dead means he probably won't have a big role in the future, certainly not the kind of 'turns the plot on its head' kind of plot twist in any case.

So yeah, his mortality alone is my reason for trusting him, that and the fact that I don't want it to be revealed that the Geth are deep down evil. Not after all that.

Then again... I repeatedly refuse to believe Cerberus is good, but then that's just one organization I'm demonizing, not an entire race. So I guess it's still okay.

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I trust him (them?). He had Shep right in his scope, an easy headshot and didn't take it. He trusts Shep enough to make the decision about what happens to the Heretic Station (maybe "trust" is the wrong word, but he lets Shep make the decision - a decision that could effect his entire "race", in human terms, that's trust). He says himself that Geth lack perspective. Without perspective, it isn't even possible to betray Shep. He's working on cold logic and mathematics, and even the most basic logic says "Reapers will enslave Geth, I am Geth, I dont want to be enslaved. Shepard fights Reapers. Therefore, Shepard helps Geth". I think he understands that much. After the Reaper threat is dealt with, who knows what he'd do (probably become an extranet sensation in the video-game world, given his hacking skills), but while the Reapers are a threat, I trust him. He didn't seem to have a problem going onto the Flotilla with my Shep, and he didnt spaz and kill every Quarian he met. He seems relatively safe for now. And like others have pointed out, Shep's rag-tag crew all have their reasons to betray/screw-over/complicate Shep's mission (in fact, I actually expect the Virmire Survivor to play this role sometime in the future, but thats speculation) The only totally loyal/harmless crew Shep has is Mordin, Joker, Chakwas and Garrus. Everyone else has a pretty justifiable reason to plot against Shepard, based on your actions in the game.

And Grunt. you're basically his daddy/mommy