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[phatpat63]

282xvl wrote...

I trust Legion as much and for the same reasons as I trusted Stalin. Enemy of my enemy is my friend, especially if said enemy is a eminent and utterly mortal danger to the survival of both myself and my new friend.

. . . Hitler?

This does not mean I LIKE Stalin or Soviet Russia - they were simply lesser of two evils that were a useful ally against a (questionably!) greater/more heinous enemy in **** Germany.

Oh, pew, good evening Mr. Roosevelt.

[Yakko77]

phatpat63 wrote...

282xvl wrote...

I trust Legion as much and for the same reasons as I trusted Stalin. Enemy of my enemy is my friend, especially if said enemy is a eminent and utterly mortal danger to the survival of both myself and my new friend.

. . . Hitler?

This does not mean I LIKE Stalin or Soviet Russia - they were simply lesser of two evils that were a useful ally against a (questionably!) greater/more heinous enemy in **** Germany.

Oh, pew, good evening Mr. Roosevelt.

IIRC, Roosevelt affectionately referred to Stalin as "Uncle Joe".  Churchill on th other hand knew he was a snake and he was right.  Hell, even Patton wanted to go after him right after we were done with the Germans.

[ElectricZ]

I trust him/them/it. As with any of the other squad mates, it didn't happen right away. I hated Miranda, Jack and Zaeed when I first encountered them, but hearing their stories and seeing how they behaved, that changed over time.

I was wary of Legion but curious so I made sure to get as much chat time with him has possible. His story about the heretics and their reasons for helping the reapers sounded plausible, and his entrusting Shepard with a virus that could wipe out ALL geth certainly indicated he was telling the truth about the geth believing Shepard's code was superior. Even though it wasn't an option in the game (it would have made for an awesome renegade choice), Shepard could have copied the virus and given it to the Alliance, Cerberus, Tali or anybody else for future use.

Then, listening to what he had to say about the Morning War, the geth want nothing more than peaceful coexistence. They don't object to sharing the galaxy with organics, but isolate themselves because they believe it's better for all involved if they stay apart... and they may be right.

If the Shadow Brokers' dossier is to be believed, Legion has, in fact, developed emotions. He believes in fair play, isn't above talking smack but accepts punishment for doing so, feels some resentment towards the Quarians and empathy for slaves... and in some way feels cultural guilt over what happened on Eden Prime even though "he" wasn't there when it happened. As for being hopeless in the dating sim... Well, it probably doesn't help matters when someone asks how you feel about them and all you can say is "no data available."

Legion's an all right guy.

Of course, Legion, the heretic station and the geth "civil war" could all just be an elaborate scheme to trap Shepard somehow, but that sure is an awful lot of effort and resources just to punk someone... and I'm not sure what the point of the whole charade would be.

Modifié par ElectricZ, 10 décembre 2010 - 06:26 .

[AlexMBrennan]

I am somewhat weary of Legion (and EDI as well). Being AIs, there is no way of telling what if there's an order 66 until it is carried out.
You really shouldn't trust code from untrustworthy sources... I'm sure it would cut computer/internet crime significantly if only people remembered that.
Edit to add: I don't trust most of the remaining squad either

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 10 décembre 2010 - 08:43 .

[Slayer299]

I really don't trust Legion a 100%, he's had some valuable insight into some things, but his evasiveness when you question him about the chest armor makes me wonder how much more he's *not* telling me.

[Rip504]

No The Geth are EVIL!!! There are no Geth factions,only Reaper mind tricks.

[Vaenier]

Rip504 wrote...

No The Geth are EVIL!!! There are no Geth factions,only Reaper mind tricks.

The fact I can not tell if you are being funny or are serious scares me

[Mecha Tengu]

282xvl wrote...

This does not mean I LIKE Stalin or Soviet Russia - they were simply lesser of two evils that were a useful ally against a (questionably!) greater/more heinous enemy in **** Germany.

Hitler killed 6-7 million poles, jews, gypsies, russians, gays, and mentally ill

Stalin killed 20 million russians, ukranians, poles during his great purges and terror famines.

lesser evils my ass

if I was roosevelt,  I would have focused on Japan, let the Germanns, Soviets, and British kill each other out, and then swoop in to dominate a weakened post war europe

(hey first time Stalin was mentioned in a thread before hitler was mentioned. Godwin's law revoked? lol)

Modifié par Mecha Tengu, 12 décembre 2010 - 09:02 .

[Busomjack]

Stalin was a lesser evil because even if he killed more people he still helped win the war which saved the planet from fascism.

[Mecha Tengu]

would rather have fascism than communism



Fascism brought imperial germany from a war ravaged poverty stricken country, to an economic and millitary superpower in 6 years.

[Destroy Raiden_]

quote shep, " The only thing that can't be hacked is Legion." Yeah I trust him he didn't blow my head off in Overlord he's the only geth I trust. I don't however trust my male shuttle now he's got some grand plan going on!

[Caael]

His explanation of heretics vs 'normal' geth was enough for me to trust him. The very first teaer trailer made me immediately suspicious of him, and I didn't fully trust him up until his loyalty.



So no, I dont think he's gonna bite us in the ass. Worst case scenario, he goes back to the Quarian homeworld and we dont hear from him again.

[MassEffect762]

Why not? It's not like Bioware has that kind of nerves to pull one on the fans knowing how popular he is.

[Mercedes-Benz]

Yes.

[Ship.wreck_]

WHAAAAT? When did you get to ask Legion about the armor? I've been wondering about that forever! I just remember Miranda saying it was just a field repair before you bring him online, and I was thinkin "BS!"

[MassEffect762]

^ Get Legion and make sure you still have some mission to do, after each mission talk to him and eventually it'll come up.

[Vaenier]

Anyone else find his video game habits interesting? The one about him donating a bunch of credits to the edan prime charity was a nice touch.

The fact he plays video games at all is amazing. why would an AI take part in such activities while on a mission?

[Ship.wreck_]

Damn but that means letting crew members die in the hands of the Collectors... and I really wanna bone Kelly!



That is awesome! Legion is a geek!