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[Matt6sic6]

And mark my words Kastagir, they'll do the exact same thing with Dragon Age 2. If we're lucky, the game will be playable at first - something will happen that greatly needs their attention, but instead of fixing anything they will shove useless DLC in our faces and hold out their hands open palmed taking all of our money and half-ass working on the next "thing" they call a game. It will not get any better - ever. If anything, it will be even worse this time around for PC gamers as Dragon Age 2 is being developed for consoles as a priority, and developed for PC 2nd, we will once again get the short end of the stick, only this time it will be even smaller.

Modifié par Matt6sic6, 14 décembre 2010 - 07:58 .

[Pettytheft]

After Awakenings I won't purchase another BioWare product until it reaches the bargain bin. The amount of obvious bugs in that expansion were ridiculous. They were not obscure compatibility problems either. To release several bits of DLC without fixing the previous problems is offensive. I haven't purchased a single bit of DLC for ME or DA since.

[Kastagir]

Unless they break their silence or <GASP> actually fix the game I will assume they will continue to do as they have done. This is why I will not be supporting them by buying their products. I don't have any illusions - many people will buy DA2 because they can't help themselves or don't look at the game critically enough to see the flaws. However, choosing not to buy the products of a developer that leaves the job half-done is the only way to get the message across that such practices are unacceptable. If enough people follow suit, then they will feel it. If not, then all I've done is spare myself the anguish of owning yet another broken, abandoned game.

[Realranger55]

Bioware has been around for a long time and they have given me hundreds upon hundreds of quality rpg experiences. They are one of the only solid crpg developers\\\\innovators left. If you guys can't look past a few bugs then I feel sorry for you, and also the future of crpg's.

Most of the issues with DLC and Awakening are due to being owned by EA and no doubt being under huge amounts of pressure to get the product out. Bioware is trying to create huge gameworlds with great stroies that are rarely seen these days. They are competing with other developers who make a game that will last 10hours at most and sell twice as much. It's not an easy job, if you wet blankets can't accept that, then in time you will see this genre disappear all together.

Modifié par Realranger55, 15 décembre 2010 - 04:52 .

[GithCheater]

Kastagir wrote...

I don't have any illusions - many people will buy DA2 because they can't help themselves or don't look at the game critically enough to see the flaws.

Oh, really?

I apologize on behalf of hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) of poor befuddled souls that enjoyed DAO for countless hours.
 
Elf boots?  LOL.  I suggest rolling with the punches and drinking lemonade when life gives you a few minor bugs, rather than dwell on the negative and sucking lemons. 

[Centurion00]

I withdraw my complaint, my game has ceased its crashing!

i not sure why or how but the -dx9 switch seems to have fixed it, also i adjusted the settings of my memory to match the specs of the chip they were slightly off, so it might have been my bad, but the crash's remain on my quad machine tried the same on it with no luck, when i have time i will run out and get new crucial memory for the quad and see if that was the problem.

[Gen.Jake]

What is really pissing me off specially in this topic, are some fanboys that insist in defending this broken/buggy game using that old and stupid way of thinking "I didnt experience any problems, so there is no problem... and screw everybody else", and then I have to keep hearing the same crap about that the problem is our PC or some guy above in this topic question if we were in pc gaming enough to understand something.

The fanboys need to underestand that lots of people are not just experiencing minor bugs, they are experience HUGE GAME BREAKING bugs, some people can´t even finish the game(like in the final battle of Denerim por example) and the problem is not their pc configuration, compatibility or whatever you want to come up with. I am in pc gaming since most people here were in diapers and I never saw anything like this in my life.

Modifié par Gen.Jake, 24 décembre 2010 - 09:55 .

[SSV Enterprise]

A lot of people?

I'm sorry, but an issue on that scale would likely have shown up in gaming news if it was major and lots of people were experiencing it.  Of course you'll see a lot of issues here, it's the tech support section, for crying out loud. The truth is, only a minority of people on whole are experiencing issues. Why should BioWare spend time and resources fixing the game for a minority of people when the vast majority are eagerly awaiting DA2?

Modifié par SSV Enterprise, 25 décembre 2010 - 04:36 .

[Funkjoker]

The "vast majority" also experiences frequent crashes with Dragon Age on PC and that is unacceptable. I was hoping they'd fix many more things along the way to 1.05, however, now I'd be happy if they cured all the crashing problems..

Modifié par Jean-Funk Van Damme, 25 décembre 2010 - 12:22 .

[dwiestopy]

The most annoying issue is desktop crash. Specially in Denerim, it happens everytime in the market area. People say Denerim is cursed, Damn right! Bioware guys should destroy the evil spell right now!

[SSV Enterprise]

Jean-Funk Van Damme wrote...

The "vast majority" also experiences frequent crashes with Dragon Age on PC and that is unacceptable. I was hoping they'd fix many more things along the way to 1.05, however, now I'd be happy if they cured all the crashing problems..

And how do you know this?  Did you make a scientific poll or something?  Or do you just assume that your frustrations are the frustrations of others?

[ladydesire]

Jean-Funk Van Damme wrote...

The "vast majority" also experiences frequent crashes with Dragon Age on PC and that is unacceptable. I was hoping they'd fix many more things along the way to 1.05, however, now I'd be happy if they cured all the crashing problems..

The "vast majority" of gamers don't hang out on the developer's forum site either, so there is no real way to tell how many people are actually affected by the crashes, which generally have been reported with, get this, specific hardware configurations. If that's not a problem on the user's end, maybe due to something in the game code that Bioware is unable to reproduce on the hardware they have access to for testing, I don't know what it is. Also, since Bioware doesn't handle the specific hardware drivers for computer accessories (like the Video Card and Sound Card) if the problem is in those, they have little control over that aspect of the gaming environment.

[metatheurgist]

Origins sold 2.7 million units in the Dec 2009 quarter alone. Assume only 10% of people that bought the game actually play the game (unlikely). Let's call a majority 50%. I don't see 130000 complaints on this (or any) issue.

[Funkjoker]

ladydesire wrote...
The "vast majority" of gamers don't hang out on the developer's forum site either, so there is no real way to tell how many people are actually affected by the crashes, which generally have been reported with, get this, specific hardware configurations. If that's not a problem on the user's end, maybe due to something in the game code that Bioware is unable to reproduce on the hardware they have access to for testing, I don't know what it is. Also, since Bioware doesn't handle the specific hardware drivers for computer accessories (like the Video Card and Sound Card) if the problem is in those, they have little control over that aspect of the gaming environment.

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"Search" for "crash" in technical forums. How many threads do you get SINCE 1.04 was released?!?!

I know how to handle a pc. I do not have any problem with any other game whatsoever. However, DA crashes. It's _entirely_ DA related. It's not the user's fault; don't take it wrong, normally I'd say that the users here are INCAPABLE of handling a PC (if you look at all other threads here), however, since 1.03 and 1.04 the game's not stable enough. And I do not care about the vast majority not posting here; there are enough people here complaining.

[steve_person]

I have tried for 5 days, looooooong days, after 2 weeks of great play all of a sudden it was misconfiguration error, (i dont know why but i clicked on patch 1.04) since then I can no longer play, it was misconfiguration error. Through this site (conferring with my camp members) i discovered AHH Ha Adobe Air (current version), after installing Adobe Air now it is "problem with your game set up please re-install" I have reinstalled 2 hundred times, updated my updates, totally changed my PC msconfig, tried DEP, and still no play. I very much need to play this game, however I am at an end, no solution helps, EA support is no help, I as well as others will certainly not purchase DAO2 when I cant play DOA1, I have searched the site for 5 loooooooooooong days tried everything and still "please re-install" the best help was Adobe Air. I even tried patch 1.02 to more confusion. SUPER UPSET especially since patch 1.04 is included in Ultimate edition, but noooooooo I clicked on 1.04 patch and whamo no play "please reinstall" makes no sense. It is a game and I have updated PC, it is not a hardware issue. Yes check other threads, and google search, misconfig, DLC unautherized, crashing,

Ultimate edition download
XP
4GB Ram
GTX 460
PSU
Creative X-FI sound
All drivers updated

Mass Effect 1&2 run great

Modifié par steve_person, 26 décembre 2010 - 07:27 .

[White_Buffalo94]

The only bugs that bug me (no pun intended) are the ones in Awakening such as the Sentinel Armor and Vigilance sword. Everything else seems to go great for me. I am in fact working on fixing those two pet peeves of mine as I type this, uninstalling my Wardens Keep before I import my canon character through Awakening again (I missed a quest, and I am a perfectionist)
EDIT: Also, the Velanna's Exile quest has reared it's ugly head. Or rather not, as this is yet another bug that plagues me that has yet to even be addressed. Enough of a response from BW would be to simply tell us some sort of workaround (And since I prefer console controls to PC ones, I own a console). I honestly don't care if bugs exist, as long as there is a simple way to solve them.
*Sigh* At least I got my Sentinel armor and Vigilance sword to work... Though I had to uninstall everything and reinstall it all over except WK...

Modifié par White_Buffalo94, 29 décembre 2010 - 08:07 .

[White_Buffalo94]

franzpoldi wrote...

Jean-Funk Van Damme wrote...

The "vast majority" is also experiences frequent crashes with Dragon Age on PC and that is unacceptable. I was hoping they'd fix many more things along the way to 1.05, however, now I'd be happy if they cured all the crashing problems..

/sign

SSV Enterprise wrote...

A lot of people?

I'm sorry, but an issue on that scale would likely have shown up in gaming news if it was major and lots of people were experiencing it.  Of course you'll see a lot of issues here, it's the tech support section, for crying out loud. The truth is, only a minority of people on whole are experiencing issues. Why should BioWare spend time and resources fixing the game for a minority of people when the vast majority are eagerly awaiting DA2?

Just think of the silverite mine bug and Sigrun`s companion quest. I am sure that there are thousands of people who are affected by these bugs and the only thing Bioware do about this is keeping quite because they do not care. They already got our money, so they do not care about their customers. This is a fact and this is despicable.

I don't think that is true, I just think they are not concerned at present with such a rare occurence. This is the first I've heard of it out of several millions of DA players. Of course I'd be annoyed at this problem as well, so I do hope it works itself out or you can figure it out.
Again, I don't think Bioware doesn't care for their customers. I'm an average person, and when I make something that others aren't happy with, I do everything in my power to fix it if time and resources permit. I believe Bioware would do the same. However, I think they are maxing their resources pumping DA2 to the release date scheduled as well as ME3

[DeadJediJamie]

White_Buffalo94 wrote...

However, I think they are maxing their resources pumping DA2 to the release date scheduled as well as ME3

This statement does not excuse leaving DA: O in the state it is in.

[ladydesire]

Jean-Funk Van Damme wrote...

ladydesire wrote...
The "vast majority" of gamers don't hang out on the developer's forum site either, so there is no real way to tell how many people are actually affected by the crashes, which generally have been reported with, get this, specific hardware configurations. If that's not a problem on the user's end, maybe due to something in the game code that Bioware is unable to reproduce on the hardware they have access to for testing, I don't know what it is. Also, since Bioware doesn't handle the specific hardware drivers for computer accessories (like the Video Card and Sound Card) if the problem is in those, they have little control over that aspect of the gaming environment.

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"Search" for "crash" in technical forums. How many threads do you get SINCE 1.04 was released?!?!

I know how to handle a pc. I do not have any problem with any other game whatsoever. However, DA crashes. It's _entirely_ DA related. It's not the user's fault; don't take it wrong, normally I'd say that the users here are INCAPABLE of handling a PC (if you look at all other threads here), however, since 1.03 and 1.04 the game's not stable enough. And I do not care about the vast majority not posting here; there are enough people here complaining.

In almost every case I've read about, the crashes were on "unsupported" High-end hardware, like tri- and quad-core CPU's and specific video and audio hardware, generally on "unsupported" versions of Windows (Vista 64 and Windows 7 64); that's why I said it the way I did. With no native executable on 64-bit Windows, there are a lot of things that can cause the game to crash that Bioware may not know exactly how to fix until they create a 64-bit executable for DA2; maybe that's why they haven't talked about the patch lately.

[Kastagir]

Crashes brought about by hardware incompatibilities are always going to be an issue in a game of this size and scale. I'm sure these things annoy the **** out of people, but a developer can only do so much to address these issues. This is NOT why I created this thread. The biggest problem that plagues DA:O is the technical problems created by the developer and the decision to leave them unaddressed. Some of these issues lead to crashes, but are not related to specific hardware components. Many changes were made in the 1.03 patch that included scripting events that caused crashes to become more common where they weren't happening before (e.g. in combat, when casting certain spells, etc.) or not as often. The expansion also introduced many errors, either in the form of talents that did not work properly or in quests that were broken due to errors in scripting, missing content or poor quality control. Bioware has chosen not to address these issues and we are left with a broken product. Keep this in mind when DA2 hits the store shelves and you feel the urge to play it. It is clear that some of you believe that these flaws are acceptable. It is unreasonable to expect a developer to create a perfect product that is devoid of flaws, so I would be inclined to agree with you were it not for the fact that the developer in this case has not made an honest effort to correct these flaws in their product. In fact they have not even communicated their disposition on many of the outstanding issues that plague this game. Without proof of due diligence, I can not support Bioware as a developer in any commercial sense. Therefor, I will not be purchasing DA2 unless something changes.

[Gen.Jake]

Kastagir wrote...

Crashes brought about by hardware incompatibilities are always going to be an issue in a game of this size and scale. I'm sure these things annoy the **** out of people, but a developer can only do so much to address these issues. This is NOT why I created this thread. The biggest problem that plagues DA:O is the technical problems created by the developer and the decision to leave them unaddressed. Some of these issues lead to crashes, but are not related to specific hardware components. Many changes were made in the 1.03 patch that included scripting events that caused crashes to become more common where they weren't happening before (e.g. in combat, when casting certain spells, etc.) or not as often. The expansion also introduced many errors, either in the form of talents that did not work properly or in quests that were broken due to errors in scripting, missing content or poor quality control. Bioware has chosen not to address these issues and we are left with a broken product. Keep this in mind when DA2 hits the store shelves and you feel the urge to play it. It is clear that some of you believe that these flaws are acceptable. It is unreasonable to expect a developer to create a perfect product that is devoid of flaws, so I would be inclined to agree with you were it not for the fact that the developer in this case has not made an honest effort to correct these flaws in their product. In fact they have not even communicated their disposition on many of the outstanding issues that plague this game. Without proof of due diligence, I can not support Bioware as a developer in any commercial sense. Therefor, I will not be purchasing DA2 unless something changes.

Kastagir I agree with you in everything you said, that´s why some fanboys in this thread need to grow up and have a little self-respect. They don´t underestand that there are certain rules of behavior that these companies need to follow, If you examine all the other game developers out there you are going to see a very different relationship beetween the company and their customers regarding comunication and support, when there is a problem to be addressed, it is not ignored with complete silence and disrespect to the customers.

[White_Buffalo94]

DeadJediJamie wrote...

White_Buffalo94 wrote...

However, I think they are maxing their resources pumping DA2 to the release date scheduled as well as ME3

This statement does not excuse leaving DA: O in the state it is in.

Of course not