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[Darth_Ultima]

Maybe its not just Earth. Maybe its all the major races home-worlds that are under attack and Shepard has to unit them all to fight the Reapers.

[Googlesaurus]

Darth_Ultima wrote...

Yes there are aliens on Shepards team but a human is the.one holding the group together.  A human is the one uniting them all.  That is what they are afraid of.  Fighting a united galaxy.

So the Reapers naturally conclude that all humans are like Shepard. 

Modifié par Googlesaurus, 11 décembre 2010 - 03:04 .

[AlanC9]

We pretty much know the plan now. Humans become Reaper food, all other races just get exterminated. So the Reaper plan at some point will involve seizing Earth, sure

[MassEffect762]

I'm hoping it's mostly about the story and the characters.



I'm hoping the story and characters can give the game purpose/life/emotion and ultimately connect/immerse us into something more than a game, a magnificent experience.



ME3 to me will be not only be about Shepards story but how Bioware chooses to be remembered.

(Will they stick to their roots or be blinded by success)(See George Lucas)

[xxMr Anarchyxx]

The description is probably from the back of the game's case, so planet Earth being attacked might happen at the begining of the game or half way through.

[CARL_DF90]

Well, I seem to recall some people wanting ME3 to take place on Earth, or at least involve Earth and now that they're getting what they wanted some people are complaining. Go figure.
In all seriousness though, Earth has about 11 billion people. That's pretty much the largest concentrated population of humans in all the galaxy. Get rid of Earth, most of humanity is wiped out with only a few scattered millions isolated and defenseless. Just look up the planetary surveys for human populated planets on Mass Effect wiki or go back and travel to those planets in ME2 and you'll see what I mean.

Modifié par CARL_DF90, 11 décembre 2010 - 05:55 .

[GnusmasTHX]

Mass Effect was always about saving humans. Shepard is human. You didn't complete the game by dying repeatedly.

[Alienmorph]

Reapers started with earth to perpetrate their reproductive cycle, I guess. But the whole galaxy is in danger.

[Ship.wreck_]

I only read the first few posts but I was pretty much thinking the same thing since I first picked up ME2 and already have a two cents to put in. It is as follows:

The first Mass Effect was an awesome game, it realy gave you a sense of an EPIC battle! Because you weren't just some human in the Alliance (which by its self was cool), but you were also a Specter! So high ranking you reported exclusively to a galactic council, and it wasn't just humanity at stake if you failed it was all sapient species in the entire galaxy! It was huge!

Then I read the back of ME2 before I bought it and it said something about saving some human colonies from Collectors. I was like, "What the hell? How did they go from defending the galaxy from total anihalation at the hands of an unspeakably ancient race of super AI's to defending a handful of outlying colonies from abduction by your run of the mill evil alien, and expect to impress me?" I was really worried that the franchise completely forgot the whole reaper premis that was the whole point of the first game. Turns out when I played it they didn't forget but still they seemed to be taking a huge step backwards in the plot. It bacame so human-centric it didn't even give a shadow of the sense of epic-ness that the first game did. There was one point in the collector ship when Garrus had some line about all the human terminus colonies not being able to fill it and "They're going to target Earth!" Why would he care so much about the humans when he's got his own species to worry about, not to mention the rest of the galaxy, which is just as much threatened by the Reapers? Collectors and the humans just seems like a freakin' footnote!

Plus I really didn't buy that whole HumanReaper thing at the end. Really? We've seen lots of Reapers and they're all the same giant space squid reaper! If they were in the habit of modeling themselves after species they supposedly consider inferior, why isn't there a prothean reaper? and a diferent kind of reaper for every 50,000yrs or whatever that they invade? Also they're supposed to believe that we're so inferior we deserve to be wiped out, how can they believe that and still want to mimic us? That doesn't make any sense. Not to mention that humans aren't exactly the dominant species in the Galaxy, despite Shepard, the Krogans obviously are superior physically with their redundant systems, every other species has been around galactically for alot longer colonizining way more planets  and must have way higher numbers, plus with the whole Turian mandatory military service our volunteer military with a smaller populace couldn't even be half the size of theirs. It'd be like the entire US Fleet vs the fleet of Iraq, they've got like half a mile of coastline, they're not gonna have a very big Navy. Plus bottom line all that logical thinking stuff aside, I just couldn't picture that giant human skeleton flying through space and not looking dumb. I mean could any of us? Bad call BioWare, no offense, but bad call.

I don't know anything about the whole ME3 being just about earth rumors but it wouldn't suprise me, it's the direction the trend is taking and it's a bad one. I will be very dissapointed come saturday if it's the case. Just look at the chronic deterioration of epic:

ME1 - If Saren/Sovereign makes it to the citadel the entire Reaper fleet will pour into the galaxy and wipe out all sentient life, you are saving the entire galaxy directly by stoping that from happening.

ME2 - You're only directly protecting a handful of unimporant outlying human colonies by stoping some collector aliens that may be indirectly suporting the reapers. So at best you're only indirectly fighting the reapers by disrupting their little side missions that don't really make any sense given the premises anyway.

ME3 - You're protecting only Earth from some sort of Reaper threat huh? This just keeps getting less and less important with each instalation. Their only way into the galaxy is through the citadel anyway, how are they even supposed to get to earth without destroying everyone else anyway? And really, if the Reapers were so big and bad and dangerous as they're supposed to be, one little planet would not rate their attention when they're operating on a galactic scale anyway, no matter what species was on it.

I really thought Mass Effect 2 would about some massive galactic effort to improve technology, build forces, reverse the Citadel mass relay and take the fight to the Reapers in intergalactic space! That would have been EPIC and would top the first game, instead they didn't even live up to the first. And now it looks like they won't be doing so well in 3 either. Hope it's not the case, but by all accounts...

Although to be fair Mass Effect 2 did improve on some things. I've seen a couple posts where people complained that there's less guns in ME2 and while that technically true, just take a second and actually THINK about it. There was more NAMES of guns in ME1, and more COLORS of guns, more LEVELS of guns, but only two actuall shapes of guns, and bottom line when you pulled out your assault riffle no matter what name shape color level etc. it was it acted exactly like any othe assault riffle in the game, just with different stats. So there wasn't really any variety at all, it was all the same thing by a different name. In ME2 there's WAY more variety, sure there's less NAMES of guns, but bottom line when you pull out whatever weapon fits into your assualt riffle slot, it's going to act in a unique way that is different from any other weapon the game of the same type. Each specific weapon has a completely different function from any other and causes you to use it a distinctly different type of play than any other weapon so REALLY there's way more guns in ME2. Just one example, alot of other ways in which ME2  really let us down. I think I'm going to write a review that deals with each different element of the gameplay and how it improved or deteriorated from ME1 to ME2.

[GnusmasTHX]

It's because Earth matters, duh.

[Jagri]

Its time to finish the fight Master Chief...

Errr wait I mean Commander Shepard!

[klossen4]

always have been about humans really

[Ship.wreck_]

klossen4 wrote...

always have been about humans really

No it hasn't. In ME1 there was a SUBPLOT about human's place in the galactic COMUNITY and the council and in citadel space.

But how many references were there to Reapers wiping out Humans? Not as many as there were references to Reapers wiping out "all sapient life in the galaxy" that's if there were any references singling out humans as a reaper target, which I'm pretty sure there weren't.

[GodWood]

Ship.wreck wrote...
But how many references were there to Reapers wiping out Humans? Not as many as there were references to Reapers wiping out "all sapient life in the galaxy" that's if there were any references singling out humans as a reaper target, which I'm pretty sure there weren't.

I'm sorry did you miss the whole collector plot?

[CroGamer002]

Agreed.



Well except if you forget about: Geth, Quarians, Rachni( if Queen not killed), Turians, Asari, Batarians, Krogans...

[Ship.wreck_]

GodWood wrote...

Ship.wreck wrote...
But how many references were there to Reapers wiping out Humans? Not as many as there were references to Reapers wiping out "all sapient life in the galaxy" that's if there were any references singling out humans as a reaper target, which I'm pretty sure there weren't.

I'm sorry did you miss the whole collector plot?

Dude, go back and re read. I was talking about ME1 I stated explicetly at the begining of that post "in ME1" that was the part you actively omited. Read it first.

If you're wondering why, it's because the guy I was addressing was implying the mass effect has always been just about humans, which would include ME1 which is simply not the case. Humans have always been involved, have always been a concern to shepard since he is one of them, but have not by any means always been the main focus. In the first mass effect humans were not generally segregated from the rest of the galaxy as a reaper target it was a bigger game because it was about everyone.

Seperating humans is a new thing wich makes the game seem more petty and less epic. and yes now I'm talking about the whole collector plot. Which was the whole plot of ME2. Which it is obvious I wasn't talking about in that post. That is if you read my orginal post vs your edited version which omits the part where I said outright that I was talking about ME1

[RyuGuitarFreak]

No. I don't think so. I'm imagining that the attack on Earth will be the prologue, like Shepard's death and Eden Prime were. And it would be a great setting for the beginning. Imagine that the reapers attacked and made Earth their main "headquarters" and mankind there is dieing at every second. Now it's up to Shepard to stop them from taking the rest of the galaxy and rescue the survivors on Earth.

[Sheepie Crusher]

It's not about Reapers VS humans



Their last two plans failed because of humans, so it's samrter to get rid of them first and then deal with with the rest of the galaxy



Or perhaps they attacked Earth first to throw Shepard off- balance and make her rush to save it without plans or preparation

[klossen4]

Ship.wreck wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Ship.wreck wrote...
But how many references were there to Reapers wiping out Humans? Not as many as there were references to Reapers wiping out "all sapient life in the galaxy" that's if there were any references singling out humans as a reaper target, which I'm pretty sure there weren't.

I'm sorry did you miss the whole collector plot?

Dude, go back and re read. I was talking about ME1 I stated explicetly at the begining of that post "in ME1" that was the part you actively omited. Read it first.

If you're wondering why, it's because the guy I was addressing was implying the mass effect has always been just about humans, which would include ME1 which is simply not the case. Humans have always been involved, have always been a concern to shepard since he is one of them, but have not by any means always been the main focus. In the first mass effect humans were not generally segregated from the rest of the galaxy as a reaper target it was a bigger game because it was about everyone.i not even surprised

Seperating humans is a new thing wich makes the game seem more petty and less epic. and yes now I'm talking about the whole collector plot. Which was the whole plot of ME2. Which it is obvious I wasn't talking about in that post. That is if you read my orginal post vs your edited version which omits the part where I said outright that I was talking about ME1

was forshadowed i say well i saw it coming

Modifié par klossen4, 11 décembre 2010 - 02:54 .

[GodWood]

Ship.wreck wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Ship.wreck wrote...
But how many references were there to Reapers wiping out Humans? Not as many as there were references to Reapers wiping out "all sapient life in the galaxy" that's if there were any references singling out humans as a reaper target, which I'm pretty sure there weren't.

I'm sorry did you miss the whole collector plot?

Dude, go back and re read. I was talking about ME1 I stated explicetly at the begining of that post "in ME1" that was the part you actively omited. Read it first.

If you're wondering why, it's because the guy I was addressing was implying the mass effect has always been just about humans, which would include ME1 which is simply not the case. Humans have always been involved, have always been a concern to shepard since he is one of them, but have not by any means always been the main focus. In the first mass effect humans were not generally segregated from the rest of the galaxy as a reaper target it was a bigger game because it was about everyone.

Seperating humans is a new thing wich makes the game seem more petty and less epic. and yes now I'm talking about the whole collector plot. Which was the whole plot of ME2. Which it is obvious I wasn't talking about in that post. That is if you read my orginal post vs your edited version which omits the part where I said outright that I was talking about ME1

Dude, relax. It was a seperate paragraph thus I assumed it was a general statement about the series.
Besides you're wrong anyway, humans have always been the focus of the ME series.

[klossen4]

it may be a subplot in me1 but still i saw it a mile away just as i think dark energy will get a big role in me3.

[Flamewielder]

Someone in the BW writing staff enjoys Terminator waaaayyyyy too much...



...but I like the Terminator series, so I can't whine too much either...

[Jzadek72]

The game has always been about humanity's place in the universe. The game will be the Reaper versus the galaxy, but it'll be humanity that is right at the centre, because that's what Mass Effect is about.

[CroGamer002]

klossen4 wrote...

it may be a subplot in me1 but still i saw it a mile away just as i think dark energy will get a big role in me3.

There was a subplot about dark energy in ME1?
Don't you mean ME2?