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UKStory135 wrote...

You could build a Reave/Viper/Vanguard similiar to this as well. They already have cryo ammo, reave goes perfectly with their build and you could alternate between charging and reaveing.

I think I just found my next playthrough.


A Reaver Vanguard can be played very similarly to the Reaver Infiltrator.  You just use charge instead of cloak.  One big difference though is that the Infiltrator get's time slow down for 3 seconds with every single viper zoom.  This makes the Viper significantly more deadly in the hands of the Infiltrator.  The slow down does not delay your power recharging either so that makes it even more powerful.

On the other hand, the Vanguard recharges barrier with his charge.  This makes charge almost the only power a Vanguard needs.  Using Reave when you lose health is a good idea though, then you can use Reave to top off health, and charge to top off barrier so you can avoid those nasty red veins.

A Vanguard really just doesn't need to use Reave much, but an aggressive Infiltrator uses it all the time.  My main problem with Infiltrators was waiting behind cover for health and shields to recharge after you get shot.  That's what Reave is for, to keep you fighting in the same way that a Vanguard can always keep on fighting.  The Baria Frontiers video in my original post demonstrates using Reave to keep the offense going.

@Bozorg-  I used the same Reaver build vs Haestrom because that's pretty much the worst case scenario with my build.  I really wish that you couldn't respec.  It would make your choices of build alot more meaningful.  Besides, it gives you an excuse to do another playthrough and move just a few points around.  That was something I really liked about Diablo 2.  I must've ran through it 50 times or so trying to create the perfect Amazon build.

Energy Drain does double damage and recharges your shields, but Reave staggers even through shields, does damage and incapacitates the defenseless.  Energy Drain IS more powerful vs Geth, but not by too much.

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UKStory135 wrote...

You could build a Reave/Viper/Vanguard similiar to this as well. They already have cryo ammo, reave goes perfectly with their build and you could alternate between charging and reaveing.


I've done something similar, but I chose Stasis (perfect as a 1 point power) as my bonus, and Improved Cryo to prevent squad members from interrupting Warp Bombs.

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ryoldschool wrote...

Ok, so how did you get Legion at that part of the game? That was his drone wasn't it? Love the cryo ammo.

You can recruit Legion after the Collector Ship, and to trigger that mission you'll need 6 squadies and you'll have to complete 5 mission or assignments. This means you can recruit Mordin, Jack, Garrus and Grunt > Horizon > pick up Zaeed and Kasumi (no need to do their LMs) and 5 assignments (like the Firewalker missions for example) and you're on your way to the CS. That's the route I take usually, it allow the use of bonus weapon for 80% of the game!

If you haven't been to Haestrom with Legion, I recommend to do so - some really funny dialogue when you meet Quarians. :)

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@Bozorg- I used the same Reaver build vs Haestrom because that's pretty much the worst case scenario with my build. I really wish that you couldn't respec. It would make your choices of build alot more meaningful. Besides, it gives you an excuse to do another playthrough and move just a few points around. That was something I really liked about Diablo 2. I must've ran through it 50 times or so trying to create the perfect Amazon build.

Energy Drain does double damage and recharges your shields, but Reave staggers even through shields, does damage and incapacitates the defenseless. Energy Drain IS more powerful vs Geth, but not by too much.

Hah, I figured it would be something like that - I like going the hard way too (like you did in the Colossus battle;))

And yeah, I don't like the respec option either though it's a nice way to test bonus powers relatively easy. I'll hope there're more specialization options in ME3 and decisions made must be permanent (it's one of the core elements of rpgs to begin with IMHO).

BTW; you received the Tempest after the "find the demolition charges" - on PC you'll find it before that part - a 360 thing? Also, does anyone know when and why you sometimes have to fight 2 Primes and sometimes only one shows up?

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Bozorgmehr wrote...

If you haven't been to Haestrom with Legion, I recommend to do so - some really funny dialogue when you meet Quarians. :)


Yes.  I accidentally skipped some of the dialogue with him that I should have left in the video.  Nothing tells Tali you love her like bringing a Geth to her rescue ;)

Bozorgmehr wrote...

And yeah, I don't like the respec option either though it's a nice way to test bonus powers relatively easy. I'll hope there're more specialization options in ME3 and decisions made must be permanent (it's one of the core elements of rpgs to begin with IMHO).


Agreed.

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BTW; you received the Tempest after the "find the demolition charges" - on PC you'll find it before that part - a 360 thing? Also, does anyone know when and why you sometimes have to fight 2 Primes and sometimes only one shows up?


Actually, I skipped the Tempest because I already had it (NG+) and didn't want to bother putting Disruptor Ammo back on it.  I've never skipped it before.  If you see after I plant the charges, I walk around in the building like a chicken with it's head cut off, wondering why Tali won't pick up on the radio.  Apparently you HAVE to pick up the Tempest before you can continue past that part.  Never knew that before.

Do you mean the geth primes in the open space with flying drones?  I usually see two there.

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I used both reave and cryo ammo a lot as an infiltrator, but I just love the Widow too much to give it up for a shotgun.

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A really cool idea ... I always loved the ghosts of Starcraft. This is as close as it gets :-)

You have stealth, a sniper-rifle and "psionic" abilities.

Modifié par Bachmors, 31 mars 2011 - 01:44 .


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Looks interesting! Have to watch the vids when I'm not at work, he he he

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It melds good with the class and reave is effective but a vanguard will always do better when it comes too shotguning especially when you can use area shockwave and fieldpull

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It's actually a vampire-esque build too, the way he's using Reave to feed off his victims (and look for new ones) instead of spamming it to kill them...

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 Shouldn't Infiltrator + Reave = Reaverator? :?

Nice guide by the way. 

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How does this build work out on Insanity?

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 I actually prefer to use the soldier with Reave:

3 Adrenaline Rush
Inferno Ammo
Area Reave
Points distributed evenly throughout other powers

My main weapon is the Mattock Heavy Assault Rifle and the Geth Pulse Rifle.

The Archon visor is also useful in my build, because often what I do is:

AR and Mattock to take down shields, the Reave everbody and get a second round of potshots.

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Soilborn88 wrote...

How does this build work out on Insanity?


I don't think Scrogu is active at the moment on the forums, but all his videos posted are on insanity.

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Not too active lately, but yes, all videos are on Insanity. I love playing a Cryoguard (Cryo+Scimitar+Vanguard), but this is my favorite all around build since it is extremely flexible.

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I need to finish an infiltrator playthrough on insanity, so I'm trying this build.  I forgot to read the details before I did this mission, so I have a point in incinerate, and don't have the +health armor pieces.

Level 18 build heading to DCS

Disruptor Ammo       2
Squad Cryo Ammo   4
Cloak                        2
Incinerate                  1
Passive                     4 Agent ( higher Para score )
Area Reave               4

Incinerate and Reave are redundant, but I'll respec after this mission.

DCS at level 18.  

I used Gatsby's Avalanche stragety on the first platform, and harby possessed a frozen drone - meleed him off the platform and you can hear him shatter, lol.  This build looks fun because I love cryo ammo.

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Grunt LM

Used an interesting place to take the maw down, and reave works great on this mission.

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Mordin LM  Have the + health armor pieces now.

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Mordin LM is always great. I try to stay away from Cryo-ammo personally, but I might give this build another look.

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I like how incinerate went away in between DCS and Grunt's LM. I was wondering why you were using incinerate at all on the collector ship... Area reave would have done slightly more damage each time than rank 1 incinerate, at least I think it would (duration doesn't matter when each is targeting armor right?).

Grunt's LM looked good with reave and cryo. I almost always take Garrus for no apparent reason even if it might make more sense to use Thane since he has warp.

The most recent time I did Mordin's mission I took Samara for her area reave. Was a ReviSoldier with squad cryo. I think I have taken everyone on that mission except Jacob and maybe Jack. I like Garrus the best just for his line at the hospital, with Tali as a runner up for her reaction to the "Quarian with a tummy ache" even if neither are optimal against the enemies. This may have been the only mission I have reloaded to just play back to back. I like the Krogan in the game commenting on your weapons. I thought they only said stuff like "try a real man's weapon" (you got "Pistol's not going to cut it" at 8:54) until I did my Vanguard run and one said "Shotgun, nice." :)

It does have one of the better renegade interrupts, too...

I like to charge the pillar that you get to at 6:17 right after the interrupt and hold them as they try to come down those stairs. You can usually slow them and get them to stack, and then hit them with all sorts of area powers.

I think cryo is ok... it is certainly good against melee enemies, which are prevalent in DCS, and Grunt, and Mordin's LMs.

Cryreave infiltrator seems pretty cool overall.

Modifié par capn233, 13 décembre 2011 - 08:15 .


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@captain yes, Mi-Chan pointed out on my DCS video that Incinerate and Reave were redundant ( also I was wondering that myself when playing ) so I did a respec out of incinerate, also added +health armor pieces.

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ryoldschool wrote...

@captain yes, Mi-Chan pointed out on my DCS video that Incinerate and Reave were redundant ( also I was wondering that myself when playing ) so I did a respec out of incinerate, also added +health armor pieces.

Yeah I saw that, which was why I commented on re-spec'ing.

I actually tried to run the math on that to make sure though since I thought there was the possibility I was missing something.  Without duration bonus, area reave only actually does 8 more damage to armor than rank 1 incinerate (320 v 312).  I don't know if you get the duration bonus when the effect is applied instantly?  If so, then that math would be different.  Also depends on tech / biotic upgrades.  It was closer than I expected though.

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Zaeed LM, short but with Thane and Zaeed on incisor the shields were not problem.

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Miranda LM
 

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Incisor looks ridiculous (performance wise).  Reave + CQC looks like it is legit for maybe any class.

The comments about the Tempest in the videos were sort of funny. I love the Tempest. But I tap the trigger for basically every weapon if it isn't up close. Got used to that from playing a lot of Counter Strike way back when.

Modifié par capn233, 14 décembre 2011 - 09:44 .


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capn233 wrote...
The comments about the Tempest in the videos were sort of funny. I love the Tempest. But I tap the trigger for basically every weapon if it isn't up close. Got used to that from playing a lot of Counter Strike way back when.

Yeah, about those Tempest comments... I will be less critical in future comments, I promise.

Ryoldschool mentioned that he never used the Tempest for any length of time before. I use the Tempest quite a bit so I am used to tapping the trigger. 

Modifié par RedCaesar97, 14 décembre 2011 - 10:18 .