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ladydesire

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Well, I took some inspiration from several posters, and am starting a mod for the Origins campaign that adds more Darkspawn simply for fighting, rather than as a part of a more complex mod.

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there are challenging mods with depth and details that make massive additions to the main campaign, like the one you see below. unfortunately, six months now it's been lost amongst a plethora of wish lists and incomplete/discontinued mods. plus I don't advertise it well, lol. try it, you only have to gain from it...

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Heh, different strokes for different folks. I wouldn't want to go through main campaign again just because of some extra modded context and I'd hate the derp roads with even more filler combat. It's stand-alone modules for me.

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Just a quick question I thought I might ask. A friend and I are very much so wishing to try out some of the content played out by mods. Alley of Murders, Return to Korcari Wilds, and the Reclaiming of Castle Cousland. Only problem is that they all seem to be blanked out... Well the Return to Highever anyway.



Is this because the mods are deemed unworthy by Bioware and thus deleted from the game? Or are the modders getting rid of them by themselves? I am just a little lost with the moral judgment of these mods and who is responsible for rendering them unusable at this point. Thanks!

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AmstradHero wrote...

This is a fairly simple question to all (PC) players who don't use mods:

Why don't you use mods?  What is that makes you not use them?


Seriously? I can see someone asking why you play on a different platform, but mods? Some people just like playing the game vanilla. Is that so hard to fathom?

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Bahlgan, I just checked Alley of Murders and Castle Cousland and they're downloadable. I don't understand what you mean by "blanked out", but so far, both of them are used in all my runs except the very first... I can't speak for Return to Korcari Wilds but I did downloaded it once before. Please elaborate your problem a little and maybe we can help more.

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Bahlgan wrote...

Just a quick question I thought I might ask. A friend and I are very much so wishing to try out some of the content played out by mods. Alley of Murders, Return to Korcari Wilds, and the Reclaiming of Castle Cousland. Only problem is that they all seem to be blanked out... Well the Return to Highever anyway.

Is this because the mods are deemed unworthy by Bioware and thus deleted from the game? Or are the modders getting rid of them by themselves? I am just a little lost with the moral judgment of these mods and who is responsible for rendering them unusable at this point. Thanks!

I respectfully disagree with this post because, to the best of my understanding, it is untrue.

Alley of Murders is available on this site.

AFAIK there is no evidence to suggest that Bioware has ever removed or objected to fan-made content (other than unambiguous malpractice, such as spam).

Return to Korcari Wilds has been in the BSN Projects section, as a link to a download on DANexus, for months. I imagine that's for some practical reason, such as working around the upload size limit.

I can't find any evidence that the other titles mentioned have ever appeared on BSN (at least, not under those exact names).

Modifié par Proleric1, 07 janvier 2011 - 08:47 .


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Phoenix_Jackson wrote...

Bahlgan, I just checked Alley of Murders and Castle Cousland and they're downloadable. I don't understand what you mean by "blanked out", but so far, both of them are used in all my runs except the very first... I can't speak for Return to Korcari Wilds but I did downloaded it once before. Please elaborate your problem a little and maybe we can help more.


Friend of mine here exclaimed he was unable to download the mods. My best guess is because he's using a Mac, but I don't know how well that accusation will go. I have myself surfed across the mods pages a few times and seen a few mods with the download button faded out, or blanked out; in other words, unclickable. Does this sort of event happen to more or is there some sort of complication? Perhaps the Return to Highever is the only one that is blanked out atm. Anybody got a link to support or dismiss this claim?

I can't find any evidence that the other titles mentioned have ever appeared on BSN (at least, not under those exact names).


Return to Highever DOES exist. Or at least the mod which you could return to Castle Cousland. I never played it, but I heard tremendous things about it. This is the one my friend had stated was disabled from his ability to use it on his comp. He uses a mac, but I doubt that is the reason why he cannot use it.

Modifié par Bahlgan, 07 janvier 2011 - 08:08 .


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I have myself surfed across the mods pages a few times and seen a few mods with the download button faded out, or blanked out; in other words, unclickable. Does this sort of event happen to more or is there some sort of complication?

Is this from the actual mod (files tab) page, or the main browse/search results page?  I think if the modder doesn't select a "featured file" in their files list, the download link from the search results page will be grayed out...but if you go into the mod and click on files, you should still be able to download.

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ladydesire

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You're correct, techwench.

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DahliaLynn

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That greyed download option can be greyed for two reasons (apparently not very clear to most players)
One is if there is no file to download at all, and the other if the modder does not want the user to download a particular file without selecting from a list of appropriate downloads in his list. (which would indeed be located under the files tab)

In one of my projects I deliberately do not have a featured file simply because users must choose between which file to download, since one may not be compatible under certain circumstances. This limits possible conflicts by forcing the interested user to look through the various descriptions and make a choice based on their needs/desires.

Modifié par DahliaLynn, 07 janvier 2011 - 09:46 .


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Phoenix_Jackson

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I very seldom download direct from BSN. I just click the tittle, click the "files" tab, then click the chosen file. All of those done in Nexus. And in Nexus, it's called "Castle Cousland".

Modifié par Phoenix_Jackson, 08 janvier 2011 - 02:22 .


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Bahlgan

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Thank you guys! I will keep these tips in mind. My friend and I would love to try these out. Keep in touch if we still cannot find a way to download.

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AmstradHero

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

AmstradHero wrote...

This is a fairly simple question to all (PC) players who don't use mods:

Why don't you use mods?  What is that makes you not use them?

Seriously? I can see someone asking why you play on a different platform, but mods? Some people just like playing the game vanilla. Is that so hard to fathom?

I'd say that some mods simply improve the game, e.g. increasing texture resolution. I understand the concept of playing a game without mods. For example, I would typically play (and finish) a game without any mods before then going back and trying new content. Also, what about standalone adventures? That would be akin to asking "Why don't you play free DLC adventures?"

As an aside, your response appears quite combatative - I assume this is unintentional given your avatar has obviously been made using DAO mods. Are you playing devil's advocate here? This thread was aimed to help modders find out what they needed to do to help encourage players try out their work. It is apparent from this thread that many players have previously considered mods to be "cheating" or "low quality" or "unsafe" or otherwise have not been exposed to the full picture of what mods can offer.

We've been fortunate enough that we've been able to educate players about what mods are available that fit their requirements and desires.

As a modder, I consider myself to be making content "for the players". If players don't know about mod content, or have misconceptions about the type of mod content that is available, then I will try to rectify that situation.

Modifié par AmstradHero, 08 janvier 2011 - 10:53 .


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ladydesire

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

AmstradHero wrote...

This is a fairly simple question to all (PC) players who don't use mods:

Why don't you use mods?  What is that makes you not use them?


Seriously? I can see someone asking why you play on a different platform, but mods? Some people just like playing the game vanilla. Is that so hard to fathom?


This may be true, but what if they didn't know about mods, or had "wrong impressions" about them? I only buy games on PC that can be modded; I recently bought a PSP for other kinds of games that don't get modded.

Modifié par ladydesire, 09 janvier 2011 - 10:26 .


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On the off note, for those who like playing "vanilla" (I like vanilla flavor, calling it vanilla is a bit too insulting for me, let's call it salteen, because no one likes them to the best of my knowledge).



Anyway, for those who like the salteen version of the game, ask yourself if you really think the game is anywhere near cool enough and exemplary of the RPG genre. These mods fix what some call broken, or dull, such as the fix that allows us to change the skin (colors) of distinct armor and weapons to those which are more appealing to the game. Veshialle, Topsider's Honor, Corruption, Wade's Superior Dragon sets, etcetera etcetera etcetera. These weapons and armor are too dull for unique items, and I believed they deserved a better outlook. Most other weapons tend to be like that.

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I'm sorry if this has been said before. I didn't read all 8 pages yet, sorry.



But I think one reason is possibly that people are just totally unaware you can do anything like this, or where to look for them. They just don't know *to* look, if you see what I mean. :) I don't know the best solution to this, but I imagine it will get better and better over time, as long as game developers are so encouraging of mod development and so on. (The Witcher is another example of this).



Finally, just to say, I do use mods myself, and now after having used some, I would be sad to play the game without them now. I use a small selection but the one that forces deathkill animations on every mob is just too good pass up. Fights are always epic in my game! ;)



Have fun!

#193
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Mods add color to the game. Some players, however, prefer everything be white. To each their own.

For myself, I use mods because I got tired of doing things the same way every time. If I play a DW rogue, I always found myself wearing Felon's Coat wielding Veshaille and Rose's Thorn. If I play a mage, I'm wearing . . . and wielding . . . using spells . . . You get what I mean - every playthrough seems to be a repeat of a previous playthrough.

Mods can change that by introducing new items. I particularly like RAVage's mod that adds random items. Every playthrough is different now.

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This is somewhat off topic, but I have a question.



Does anyone know of the mod that allows the battle shout voice to be enacted everytime a warrior uses the Rally skill when specialized a Champion? I was told that it was similar to the shouting effect from a Bard's Song of Valor or Song of Courage. I was told that it exists, yet I am having a hard time finding it, went through the first twenty percent and still not coming across it. If anyone can help me find it (if it exists) I would be grateful.



Friend said he heard a rumor it exists, so my confidence is not 100% on this one.

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 Maybe it's my sound card or something, but even those bard skills get muted sometimes.  But I see the animation.

I'm not really sure if it helps and I haven't tried this MOD or this tweak myself.  But... maybe it's what you're looking for, or maybe something to do during your spare time.  I don't have spare time since I'm busy watching another ant.  Just a speed search on my 10 minute break.

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It sucks being a noob. =.=

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Phoenix_Jackson wrote...

 Maybe it's my sound card or something, but even those bard skills get muted sometimes.  But I see the animation.

I'm not really sure if it helps and I haven't tried this MOD or this tweak myself.  But... maybe it's what you're looking for, or maybe something to do during your spare time.  I don't have spare time since I'm busy watching another ant.  Just a speed search on my 10 minute break.


The first one I don't think I can use, it just removes the comment from the violent voice set, but I might be able to use the second one. Thanks alot though for the links, I will inspect them and see what I can do :)

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I have now done one complete unmodded playthrough. Will be doing at least 3-4 more.



I might add some later on, if I feel like it, but I quite liked the vanilla game. Haven't read yet about a mod that screams out "Must have!"

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I have a question about the WinterForge mod, Does anyone know of a solution on fixing the name spacing on creating items? When i try and name a item i created its all one jumble.



any help appreciated:) Thanks in advance!

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I usually just have it auto-named. It'll always be a "the (insert name) of (insert char name)" anyway so I can tell which is which. But let me check when I get to play later... still working.

In the meantime, you can just use "_" and hope it works. I think you can rename it later on anyway... not really 100% sure. I never bothered about the naming part. But let me check on that later.

... hope I won't see any ant later after work. They distract me from everything.