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Thank you very much for the personal attacks.
For the game, which is what this forum is about, a trailer showing earth being attacked by Reapers implies very strongly that earth is being attacked by the Reapers.  To me, it is boring and not worth my money nor is the time I'm spending here.  Good day to you.

 Nice job backpedalling. Go place your pre-order.

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Oh I'm not going to judge an epic game on a 1 min clip!



Get a hold of your selves! You'll toss Elder Scrolls next to your bag of old Doritoes once this thing hits the stand.




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Looks like "big benny dude" took down a husk that was chasing a civvy. If so then that means the reapers have definitely been indoctrinating (as if it weren't a "duh" to begin with).

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hooahguy wrote...

Considering that we only have a minute-long clip, I laugh at anyone who is complaining that Earth is the center and its so clichéd and blah blah.... Get a life and wait for more info to come before making your complaints!


You are completely right, unfortunately, this is likely all we'll get for the near future. We'll probably get a statement from Bioware in the next couple weeks saying stay tuned for more info but we'll probably have to wait a while for more solid information.

DA2 is right around the corner and Bioware is going to start pushing that pretty hard. They'll want to get the fans focused on that title without taking away from that by dishing out ME3 information (remember, we got the first teaser for ME2 in Feburary 2009 and didn't get another trailer until May).

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I couldn't care less if it's a stereotypical Earth Invasion setting. BioWare have proven, to me at least, that time and time again, no matter what setting they use, no matter what RPG elements they do or do not implement, no matter anything they use, they will always come out with an awesome story and an awesome game in general. /Fanboy speech.

On a side note, it makes perfect sense that Earth would be the focal point, since Shepard has proven that the human race, not the Asari, or the Hannar, are the biggest threat to their plans.  So surely it would make sensethat they'd take out the heart of the human race first.

On other notes, I rather doubt Earth will be the focus of the game. If anything it'll follow the path of the first two games, but a little more expanded - i.e. ME2 the collector base was the main goal of the game, but you visited a handful of different planets and locations as part of the main story before you got there. So ME3 may not re-invent the wheel (or it might, we just don't know from one teaser trailer, but even if it uses a tried and tested formula in a way which makes you enjoy the game, I don't care.

Wouldn't it be better to wait for the story-type trailers and gameplay videos before you start bashing the game for things it may or may not have or do. Or even better, wait for the game rather than judging an entire game on 30 second to 2 minute clips of a 30+ hour game.

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So, ME3 reveal was a let down, but good to see another Elder Scrolls is coming.

It was so funny when so many people, after the FNV reveal, were like: NEW ELDER SCROLLS RAWR. I wonder if anyone is complaining.

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Wouldn't it be better to wait for the story-type trailers and gameplay videos before you start bashing the game for things it may or may not have or do. Or even better, wait for the game rather than judging an entire game on 30 second to 2 minute clips of a 30+ hour game.

How dare you use logic and speak sensibly?! Jerk! Heretic! Shooter fan!

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If Mass Effect 3 really does open with the Reapers hitting Earth, not only does it render the entirety of Mass Effect 2 utterly pointless, but if they managed to get there within another couple years from the end of that game, it renders the plot of the original Mass Effect moot as well.  What's the point of making a single Reaper if they can just steam into the galaxy under their own power?  For that matter whats the point of bothering with the Citadel in the first place?  They might as well have just made three separate games.

I am hoping against hope that BioWare doesn't have it in them to pull off that level of epic fail.

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IbramSkyheart wrote...

I couldn't care less if it's a stereotypical Earth Invasion setting. BioWare have proven, to me at least, that time and time again, no matter what setting they use, no matter what RPG elements they do or do not implement, no matter anything they use, they will always come out with an awesome story and an awesome game in general. /Fanboy speech.

On a side note, it makes perfect sense that Earth would be the focal point, since Shepard has proven that the human race, not the Asari, or the Hannar, are the biggest threat to their plans.  So surely it would make sensethat they'd take out the heart of the human race first.

On other notes, I rather doubt Earth will be the focus of the game. If anything it'll follow the path of the first two games, but a little more expanded - i.e. ME2 the collector base was the main goal of the game, but you visited a handful of different planets and locations as part of the main story before you got there. So ME3 may not re-invent the wheel (or it might, we just don't know from one teaser trailer, but even if it uses a tried and tested formula in a way which makes you enjoy the game, I don't care.

Wouldn't it be better to wait for the story-type trailers and gameplay videos before you start bashing the game for things it may or may not have or do. Or even better, wait for the game rather than judging an entire game on 30 second to 2 minute clips of a 30+ hour game.


 you kind of have to admit if you watched the crappy spike VGA awards it was pretty funny that every game earth was either being attacked by aliens or terrorist - with giant beast curling the cities urban jungles i wonder what kind of unique approach bioware will take

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Not to be a party crasher or so, but to be honest I wasn't/am not very impressed by the trailer. I still can't get past all the grey, I mean why so gritty, shooter like. Colours are good, they give life to things, part of the art direction, ME has always been colourful, why all the grey, war doesn't have to be grey and ME was never about realism. Even in those games that are grey people complain about that exact same thing, now I know this is just an assumption as I am sure the game won't be grey, but my question is why is it so in the trailer? I mean I complained about it before when the rumor was that its gonna be a spin off multiplayer/cod like game and it made sense then (the grey, but not that I liked it) as the rumor was a shooter, cod like game, but even then I disagreed on every level be it multi, grey or spin off, but now that I know that its actually ME3 I am more fearful of what ME3 will turn out to be, especially with no multiplayer side game meaning that ME3 will most probably have multiplayer.



I know that the trailer was very short and didn't show much and I am probably wrong about this, but why do I get the feeling that earth looks the same as it is now, reaper invasion or not and not futuristic, now I know we didn't see much, but I just got that feeling. Anyone else feel that way or is it just me?



Oh and please don't follow your flow chart Bioware. No gathering allies and all that which is in every Bioware game please, it made DA not all that enjoyable for me to be honest as I was so sick of knowing exactly everything, before it happened and felt like I have played this game many times before, everything was just so predictable and not just story wise, if that makes sense.



I am sorry, I don't mean to get anyone down or anger anyone, but I truly with all honesty was not impressed at all. I really hope Bioware proves me wrong and not in terms of profit or reviews (I say reviews because ME2 got great ones with everyone saying that it has been improved one and so on, but nothing about how a lot have been removed, game streamlined, less rpg and all these things coming out only afterwards, but thats the case with reviews any way, that and hype like GTA4 and RDR which were just horrible in my opinion with rdr being more horrible than gta4, which is saying a lot, again in my opinion)

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me3 marketing will likely begin at e3 so up until then i think anyone concerned about spoilers will be relatively safe. honestly? all i care about is what squadmate is returning - that's it. let everything else be a surprise. when me2 came out i knew way too much for my own good

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You know, I really hope BioWare doesn't deprive us of our glorious, but appropriately solemn, I TOLD YOU SO HA HA HA chant to the turian Councilor. Meaning, I hope the game doesn't start after the fact.

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Saibh wrote...

You know, I really hope BioWare doesn't deprive us of our glorious, but appropriately solemn, I TOLD YOU SO HA HA HA chant to the turian Councilor. Meaning, I hope the game doesn't start after the fact.


I wholeheartedly support this.  Good lord, that would be so cathartic.

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Bennyjammin79 wrote...

IbramSkyheart wrote...
Wouldn't it be better to wait for the story-type trailers and gameplay videos before you start bashing the game for things it may or may not have or do. Or even better, wait for the game rather than judging an entire game on 30 second to 2 minute clips of a 30+ hour game.

How dare you use logic and speak sensibly?! Jerk! Heretic! Shooter fan!


Forgive me!  This trailer... what a load of hogswash!  Trash!  Waste of my time!  I'll never buy this game based on a 1 minute clip!  That's all I need to see, waste of time, failed, BioWare you stink!

...........Eh, I can't do it.  I need a shower now to scrub out my brain of troll-itis.

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I actually would like an explanation to what all those clues Bioware dropped for us in the past month or so.

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Garbage. Absolute garbage. So in ME1 we stopped the Reapers from invading an unsuspecting galaxy. Well that had a point. In ME2 we stopped the abduction of humans in a Reaper plot to eventually attack Earth. Good thing that mattered.



Great marketing strategy. You can pick up the series in the "3rd act" because the first two games were utterly meaningless.



Clearly some genius had the insight to let that hack Mac Walters keep his job as lead writer. And why wouldn't they, if he'd been replaced, it might have had the disastrous consequence of ME3 having a plot that could actually give the player the impression that what they did before mattered.



So kudos Bioware, I think you can only impress me from here, because I can't even fathom how my expectations (or chances of paying money for this game) could be any lower.

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phatpat63 wrote...

Garbage. Absolute garbage. So in ME1 we stopped the Reapers from invading an unsuspecting galaxy. Well that had a point. In ME2 we stopped the abduction of humans in a Reaper plot to eventually attack Earth. Good thing that mattered.

Great marketing strategy. You can pick up the series in the "3rd act" because the first two games were utterly meaningless.

Clearly some genius had the insight to let that hack Mac Walters keep his job as lead writer. And why wouldn't they, if he'd been replaced, it might have had the disastrous consequence of ME3 having a plot that could actually give the player the impression that what they did before mattered.

So kudos Bioware, I think you can only impress me from here, because I can't even fathom how my expectations (or chances of paying money for this game) could be any lower.


Let's be fair on this point... MOST sequels render their predecessors pointless.  In fact, without rendering predecessors pointless, their wouldn't BE any sequels.  I mean, if the Rebels blowing up the Death Star meant Darth Vader thought "bugger this, I'm going home for a kitkat" their wouldn't be any Empire Strikes Back of Return of the Jedi, right?  In the same manner, there's a second Death Star further along and fully functional in RotJ, so didn't that make the actions of the whole first film pointless?

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phatpat63 wrote...

Garbage. Absolute garbage. So in ME1 we stopped the Reapers from invading an unsuspecting galaxy. Well that had a point. In ME2 we stopped the abduction of humans in a Reaper plot to eventually attack Earth. Good thing that mattered.

Great marketing strategy. You can pick up the series in the "3rd act" because the first two games were utterly meaningless.

Clearly some genius had the insight to let that hack Mac Walters keep his job as lead writer. And why wouldn't they, if he'd been replaced, it might have had the disastrous consequence of ME3 having a plot that could actually give the player the impression that what they did before mattered.

So kudos Bioware, I think you can only impress me from here, because I can't even fathom how my expectations (or chances of paying money for this game) could be any lower.


Remember that part in the teaser where they explained in detail how the Reapers got back? Oh wait....

Clearly this trailer shows that the first two games were meaningless! Clearly! How dare Bioware not explain everything in this 1 minute teaser!

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My life has meaning again!

I'm just so excited!

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It wasn't meaningless when you first played it and didn't know what happened in the 3rd one. There was way more to 1 and 2 than you apparently felt what was "meaningless".

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IbramSkyheart wrote...

Bennyjammin79 wrote...

IbramSkyheart wrote...
Wouldn't it be better to wait for the story-type trailers and gameplay videos before you start bashing the game for things it may or may not have or do. Or even better, wait for the game rather than judging an entire game on 30 second to 2 minute clips of a 30+ hour game.

How dare you use logic and speak sensibly?! Jerk! Heretic! Shooter fan!


Forgive me!  This trailer... what a load of hogswash!  Trash!  Waste of my time!  I'll never buy this game based on a 1 minute clip!  That's all I need to see, waste of time, failed, BioWare you stink!

...........Eh, I can't do it.  I need a shower now to scrub out my brain of troll-itis.


You forgot "You removed all the RPG elements from this trailer! EA stole your soul!"

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Again the argument that ME1 and 2 are "meaningless." Check some of the other threads on the forums for the counterargument to that.



Anyway I wonder when earth will be attacked and right now I'm thinking... halfway? That will give Shepard a sort of head start maybe and will allow some time for individual missions and any last minute adjustments. Not a bad way to build up anticipation either - as you're going along trying to convince the council we know at some point the reapers will hit earth and by then it will be a judgment call (like when the crew of the SR-2 was abducted). Wait too long and there won't be anybody left to save. Go underprepared and you won't be a help to anyone.

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phatpat63 wrote...

Garbage. Absolute garbage. So in ME1 we stopped the Reapers from invading an unsuspecting galaxy. Well that had a point. In ME2 we stopped the abduction of humans in a Reaper plot to eventually attack Earth. Good thing that mattered.

Great marketing strategy. You can pick up the series in the "3rd act" because the first two games were utterly meaningless.

Clearly some genius had the insight to let that hack Mac Walters keep his job as lead writer. And why wouldn't they, if he'd been replaced, it might have had the disastrous consequence of ME3 having a plot that could actually give the player the impression that what they did before mattered.

So kudos Bioware, I think you can only impress me from here, because I can't even fathom how my expectations (or chances of paying money for this game) could be any lower.

Wow. Way to make some accusations when all you have is a one minute clip.
You know, maybe now I can go and watch a trailer for a movie and know exactly what happens!

Well all I know for sure is that you will be one of the first in line to buy this game!

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I'm hoping that what the basic story is --if this is something that literally happens early on-- is that The Reapers that are attacking Earth are a small group of more localised Reapers (i.e. in hibernation until recently and/or just beyond the edge of the galactic rim) who are making the first strike, and that the main fleet we see at the end of ME2 is still in dark space, but are slowly on the way. That would explain why they haven't completely decimated Earth in only a day or so, why Shepard may have time to gather allies and actually save Earth (i.e. he/she is gathering them hopefully in time before the main fleet comes) and possibly even why all the Reapers in the trailer looked the same design as Sovereign (they're all vanguards perhaps?).

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To all of those complaining that Reapers attacking makes the first game pointless, what exactly did you expect to happen in this game? Nothing? A new enemy? We don't know when the attack on Earth takes place. We don't know how they got here. We don't know anything at all except that at some point in Mass Effect 3, the main villains from throughout the series will attack the main character's homeworld.