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[catabuca]

Consider me officially excited. No idea how we'll all hold out for a WHOLE YEAR >.<

Re the voice actor: I can hear Pegg in there, and don't forget there'll be a non-disclosure thing so he won't say "d'oh! you got me!" But I like the Richard Armitage guess too, and that fits *very* nicely with the SIS clue.

[PARAGON87]

AwesomeName wrote...

If there's one thing I'm worried about it's that ME3 will be about saving Earth/humanity which would be a gigantic step down from saving galactic civilisation from the Reapers. The former is cheesy alien invasion movie and the latter is epic space opera (and was the premise set up from the beginning).

Well who do you think the Reapers are going to turn to next?  They obviously want to destroy the largest threat to them, as they perceive humanity as stronger, first, then take care of the "weaker" races, next.

(Well that's my opinion).

Modifié par PARAGON87, 12 décembre 2010 - 03:06 .

[D.Sharrah]

008Zulu wrote...

MisterDyslexo wrote...

The reapers are attacking Earth because they pose the biggest threat.
Saren was caught (sorta) at Eden Prime, a human colony.
Saren hunted by Shepard & the SSV Normandy, a human commando and human ship
Sovereign destroyed by the alliance fleet, human only.
Shepard is back to life, by the human organization Cerberus
Shepard, a human, defeats the Collectors, with a mainly human crew, on Horizon and at their base.

While its not the best choice for the reapers, it is certainly plausible. Don't see why everybody's seeing this as a cop-out.

Saren was at Eden Prime because of the beacon, not the humans.
Saren was hunted by Shepard because they raised a huge fuss over a human colony being hit.
Sovereign was also attacked by the Turian fleet guarding the Citadel, it is conceivable they weaked his barriers.
Bringing someone back from the dead doesnt make an entire species more dangerous.
Shepard couldn't have beaten the Collectors without the Turian's Thanix cannon or the Quarians shield tech.

Plausible yes, after all the military targets in the galaxy were dealt with.

Well....actually Shepard can win without those upgrades - it just costs a few squadmates their lives...

[highcastle]

This trailer was the whole reason I watched the VGAs last night. Even though I was disappointed a bit in ME2 (squadmate interactions weren't up to par, IMO), it's still a damn good series. I'm excited to see the action move to Earth, and I know I'm not the only one wondering if any Earthborn Shepards are going to get some exclusive dialogue or side-quests once they make their return. On the whole, this looks really good, the storyline has a lot of potential, and I'm hoping it will be as good as the first Mass Effect.

[nicolom]

adam_grif wrote...

Mass Effect 1: "We have to stop the Reapers coming into the galaxy!"
Mass Effect 2: "We have to stop the agents of the Reapers from letting them return to the galaxy!"
Mass Effect 3: "Oh, well they just flew here, they didn't need to use the Citadel at all. And it only took like a few years so if they'd left at the end of ME1 they would have been here by ME2, and if they'd left like 1000 years ago when the Rachni wars failed for them, they would have been here before humans invented steam power."

Though the trailer definitely has me hooked on the release of ME3 (Thank you Bioware - I'm now unable to peform any productive action for the remaining day ), the quote above really hits a significant issue. I'm trying my best to be sceptical regarding the plot of ME3 - or at least what we know of the plot so far.

[mate209]

Bocks wrote...

HURR DURR HUMANS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT SPECIES IN THE GALAXY

Why, Bioware?

because they beat reapers.

twice

so it's logical if reapers want to get rid  of humans first

[Busomjack]

Did any of those Reapers attacking Earth resemble Harbinger?

[jymvador]

OnionMan26 wrote...

If you remember the first game; the reapers attack the citadel (centre of politics) and SHUT DOWN the mass relays, this effectively leaves each inhabited planet alone and makes intergalactic travel/communication by anyone but the reapers impossible(FTL drives will take years, decades, centuries or more to cover the distances the relays permitted). They can then pick them off(as depicted them doing to earth) one by one as they please ( it is said something like “the process of wiping out a civilization is a long process”) without fear of massive defences or retaliations as fleets would be stuck wherever they were unable to co-ordinate a defence or rally to attack the reapers. Mass effect 2 was about them trying to get another reaper working in the galaxy to allow them to go through with their original plan.

What is different if they fly here is that the relay network is still intact, communications still intact- all the races can rally together forces to attack the reapers en mass- something they could not do if the reapers original plan of attacking the citadel and disabling the gate network worked.

Actually it's possible that the Reapers shut down all communication between Earth and the galaxy (+the mass relay near Earth) for their first strike. So maybe Shepard has to fight hard (once again) to convince the Council and the other species to help. The Council is really stubborn, even if I understand their need for concrete proofs, since they're convinced that Sovereign was a Geth ship and each time Shepard and his team were the only ones to face the truth...Sometimes I wonder why he didn't bring a camera on his shoulder on his missions.

People are disappoiting because they think it's Earth focusing story, but no. It's a Galaxy's war but the Reapers just start the war like this.

[Marta Rio]

catabuca wrote...

Consider me officially excited. No idea how we'll all hold out for a WHOLE YEAR >.
Re the voice actor: I can hear Pegg in there, and don't forget there'll be a non-disclosure thing so he won't say "d'oh! you got me!" But I like the Richard Armitage guess too, and that fits *very* nicely with the SIS clue.

Holy ****, now that someone brought up Pegg, that's all I can hear. 

[Voods07]

PARAGON87 wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

If there's one thing I'm worried about it's that ME3 will be about saving Earth/humanity which would be a gigantic step down from saving galactic civilisation from the Reapers. The former is cheesy alien invasion movie and the latter is epic space opera (and was the premise set up from the beginning).

Well who do you think the Reapers are going to turn to next?  They obviously want to destroy the largest threat to them, as they perceive humanity as stronger, first, then take care of the "weaker" races, next.

(Well that's my opinion).

Your "opinion" makes perfect sense. The quotee's does not, however.

Shepard is  a man, a man who (to the Reapers) was responsible for the Destruction of not one, but two Reapers. Thus, the Reapers(as a Race) see him, and humanity, as a threat to their who master plan of wiping the galaxy clean once again.

Take out humanity first(and hopefully Shepard with it) and the rest of the Galaxy will fall like dominoes.

[Busomjack]

Assuming the Council survived in Mass Effect 1, I think they will be required by Citadel law to assist humanity if Earth gets attacked since they are now a Council race.

I think David Anderson explained this in Mass Effect 1 when talking about the attack on Eden Prime.

[Mister Mida]

I am surprised to see that all the Reapers in the trailer were similar to Sovereign, even when at the end of ME2 we saw countless Reapers that looked obviously different. Not that I'm compaining. Sovereign > Harbinger and co. IMO.

[Nezzer]

I think the VA sounds more like Dominic Monaghan than Simon Pegg xP

[Busomjack]

Why shouldn't humanity be the saviours of the galaxy? Mass Effect is all about humanity's role in the galaxy.

The other races have already saved the galaxy before anyways. The Krogan saved the galaxy from the Rachni, the Turians, Salarians, and Asari saved the galaxy from the Krogan so now it's humanity's turn to save the galaxy from the Reapers.

[jymvador]

D.Sharrah wrote...

008Zulu wrote...

MisterDyslexo wrote...

The reapers are attacking Earth because they pose the biggest threat.
Saren was caught (sorta) at Eden Prime, a human colony.
Saren hunted by Shepard & the SSV Normandy, a human commando and human ship
Sovereign destroyed by the alliance fleet, human only.
Shepard is back to life, by the human organization Cerberus
Shepard, a human, defeats the Collectors, with a mainly human crew, on Horizon and at their base.

While its not the best choice for the reapers, it is certainly plausible. Don't see why everybody's seeing this as a cop-out.

Saren was at Eden Prime because of the beacon, not the humans.
Saren was hunted by Shepard because they raised a huge fuss over a human colony being hit.
Sovereign was also attacked by the Turian fleet guarding the Citadel, it is conceivable they weaked his barriers.
Bringing someone back from the dead doesnt make an entire species more dangerous.
Shepard couldn't have beaten the Collectors without the Turian's Thanix cannon or the Quarians shield tech.

Plausible yes, after all the military targets in the galaxy were dealt with.

Well....actually Shepard can win without those upgrades - it just costs a few squadmates their lives...

Yeah I tried without the ship's upgrades and I was amazed to see that the Normandy were able to destroy the friggin huge Collector's ship with a few shots of tiny lasers. But the Alliance heavy cannon's defence in Horizon didn't work against it. LOL !

[Busomjack]

I want to take that shot of the Reapers attacking Earth and make it a background on my desktop.

[GeromeDoutrande]

Thoughts on trailer:



- Looks like the London student protesters have upped their equipment level a bit.

- That's just great. English people are talking about the weather too much already. Now that it's raining Reapers, we'll never hear the end of it.

[Timerider42]

Holy. crap.

Awesome.





I need to hurry up and play the ME2 DLC

[Pretend3r]

I feel somewhat the need to respond to the trailer. I still can't see why the reapers would see Earth as a priority target. Especially attacking them with so many reapers seems almost an 'emotional' response by a being that shouldnt have any. it would have made a hell of alot more sense for them to attack the citadel.



I don't find it unreasonable for them to be able to jump themselfs into the galaxy rather than being dependent on the mass relay. Maybe they built the citadel relay simply for easier travel. Also Sovereign used normal relays probably simply as a feint as to reveil its true nature too much.



@busomjack. i dont think just the humans would be strong enought t beat the reapers themselfs. Especially if you chose to blow the crap of out the collector base rather than donating it to the Illusive man.

[Carl the Keeper]

Maybe we are all overreacting. I'm sure the reapers just travelled to London to learn some good english manners and for having a decent cup of tea (Earl Grey, hot). They'll surely visit the wax museum next.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

GeromeDoutrande wrote...

Thoughts on trailer:



- Looks like the London student protesters have upped their equipment level a bit.

- That's just great. English people are talking about the weather too much already. Now that it's raining Reapers, we'll never hear the end of it.

No, no, no, you see, they are the reason that humans had gained the Reaper intention. That is why it is plausible that they only just got to earth in 2185-7 because it took so long to get there to sort those rabble out, only Reapers forgot about how we grow old, wither and die. So by the time Reapers get here those protesters been long since dead. Reapers realise their mistake and go home with Shepard left to clean up. When Shep gets to earth the Reapers have left a message apologising for the mess

As for "It's raining Reapers", yeah someone needs to make a song based on it

[NvVanity]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

GeromeDoutrande wrote...

Thoughts on trailer:

- Looks like the London student protesters have upped their equipment level a bit.
- That's just great. English people are talking about the weather too much already. Now that it's raining Reapers, we'll never hear the end of it.

No, no, no, you see, they are the reason that humans had gained the Reaper intention. That is why it is plausible that they only just got to earth in 2185-7 because it took so long to get there to sort those rabble out, only Reapers forgot about how we grow old, wither and die. So by the time Reapers get here those protesters been long since dead. Reapers realise their mistake and go home with Shepard left to clean up. When Shep gets to earth the Reapers have left a message apologising for the mess

As for "It's raining Reapers", yeah someone needs to make a song based on it

There's that LordMandalore guy who makes all the funny Mass Effect songs and videos. I'll contact him.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Just to point out, the sniper doesn't look like Jason Statham at all. And if Bioware decided to lower their standards on voice acting and brought that guy in, then I wouldn't be able to take ME3 seriously.



Now you have to remember that the Blur trailers don't exactly portray anything that happens in the game, at least not specifically. I read yesterday that Bioware gave them very limited information when they had them create the trailer. Look at the ME2 Blur trailer, and compare that to the story of ME2 the game. Did TIM actually dialogue with Miranda about Shepard building a team, as if he didn't know who he was recruiting? Did the collector ship fire that bright light on the colony of Horizon?



You can't read too much into a teaser trailer, especially one that's done by another company purely for marketing purposes.



-Polite

[jymvador]

Pretend3r wrote...

I feel somewhat the need to respond to the trailer. I still can't see why the reapers would see Earth as a priority target. Especially attacking them with so many reapers seems almost an 'emotional' response by a being that shouldnt have any. it would have made a hell of alot more sense for them to attack the citadel.

I don't find it unreasonable for them to be able to jump themselfs into the galaxy rather than being dependent on the mass relay. Maybe they built the citadel relay simply for easier travel. Also Sovereign used normal relays probably simply as a feint as to reveil its true nature too much.

@busomjack. i dont think just the humans would be strong enought t beat the reapers themselfs. Especially if you chose to blow the crap of out the collector base rather than donating it to the Illusive man.

I have to disagree with you. Attacking directly the Citadel from outside is a pure waste. Since the strike of Sovereign and the Geth, I'm sure the Citadel's defense has been upgraded many times. The key was information, the Reapers always won because he used the races dependence to their own technology (mass relay...) against them. If they do so that's mean that the alternate way is really risky for them, that they are maybe not strong enough to NOT fear being beaten by the organics species. They always made sure that the others races were unprepared and that intel about a massive strike would not alert them (or too late).

If they just strike the Citadel from outside, every single war ship from other Systems will just use the mass relay to jump in and support the Citadel.

Besides we don't know a lot of things, we only watched the point of view of a human soldier on Earth, so it's still possible that the Reapers are attacking other worlds/systems at the same time but the dude just doesn't know about it.
Maybe the Council forces will still think the Geth are the source despite Shepard and would prefer to strike the Geth (the Quarian would be happy), thinking that it would stop the invasion on Earth (and the Galaxy...)

Modifié par jymvador, 12 décembre 2010 - 03:45 .