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"We are legion...Our numbers will darken the skies of every world." _Sovereign

Just having reached this conversation in a new ME1 play through and seeing this trailer adds a whole new level of epicness. And I would love a renegade interupt where Shep grabs the Turian Councilor, points to the image of Palavan burning on screen and yells "Dismiss THAT!"

It could be a meme
Everytime someone uses that quote
You show something that proves your point and Yell "DISMISS THAT":bandit:

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desonnac00

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scarface71795 wrote...

SetsunaF wrote...

"We are legion...Our numbers will darken the skies of every world." _Sovereign

Just having reached this conversation in a new ME1 play through and seeing this trailer adds a whole new level of epicness. And I would love a renegade interupt where Shep grabs the Turian Councilor, points to the image of Palavan burning on screen and yells "Dismiss THAT!"

It could be a meme
Everytime someone uses that quote
You show something that proves your point and Yell "DISMISS THAT":bandit:


I'd almost pay to see that... I'll pay for an extra, super limited, untouchable god eddition to see that!

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I'm pretty sure the battle for Earth will be a galaxy wide 'last stand' - in the same way failure at the Battle of the Citadel in ME1 would have meant the end of all civilization  - if Earth falls, the galaxy falls. It's not going to be some random, small skirmish.

Remember Mordin's favourite nephew speech? That's why Earth makes thematic sense for the final battle. It makes it personal - it brings the epic scale of a galactic extinction to a personal level. Or at least it does for me. Or maybe that is just because I'm from London!

Also - why have the Reaper's been downgraded (as another poster said)?? It's been made very clear that the Reaper's HARVEST their victims. Earth is not Alderan and the Reaper's are not the Death Star, They have a purpose, they Harvest. Vigil talked of the long process - Indoctrination, the indoctrinated being taken in by other colonies... I know it was the whole galaxy, but it took centuries. This has all been made clear in the canon storylines of two games as well as the books. I don't understand why people are confused and disappointed.


And this is what I'm afraid of... Earth being the last stand just makes me think of every cliched alien invasion movie ever been made.   I don't like the idea of an Independance Day style ending where it all took place in 'Merica and then we see a few fleeting cutscenes reminding us that the entire world was at stake... It might make it seem personal to some, but for others it could feel like a downgrade from Galaxy vs. the Reapers to Earth vs. the Reapers.

The Galaxy is the stage, it always has - not Earth... And while I'm sure the Galaxy will still be at stake, I'm worried that it'll no longer feel at the forefront of the mission, and that we'll be so focussed on saving Earth, and when we do save it, we'll merely get a little cutscene saying "oh and while  you were busy doing that, the rest of the galaxy was saved too"

I hope I'm wrong, and that Earth will just be the start, and not what the whole game is about.


Do you not get the point of the final battle taking place on earth? Bioware has to somehow tie your decisions to mankind's fate. Earth wasn't even in the last two games. What are you ****ing about?

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wow,earth asking for help from the aliens, bound to make the illusive man have a heart attack, and what about all those human centrists organisations?

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lekysma wrote...

wow,earth asking for help from the aliens, bound to make the illusive man have a heart attack, and what about all those human centrists organisations?

He doesn't hate Aliens but when it comes to him Humans come first and he wants to do everything to protect Humans No matter what it takes.
I doubt he would led personal feeling get in the way
also seeing how he encouraged Shepard to recruit a team of all the different kinds of Aliens.
TIM isn't as evil as he seems 
But he will kill both aliens and humans if it advances Humans as a whole.

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Has anyone thought that maybe they attacked Earth to distract Shepard from their real target?

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Hi everyone and my congratulations.

What we all saw it did not start the game. Just think about how they learned about the Earth, where it is.

They should have access to information on key planets.



This is not the beginning of the war, if the Earth is lost, then why fight? The biggest motivation - is to fight for their country, if your home is destroyed, then there is no motivation.

Revenge? It's a bad motivation, no inspiration.



Something to fight for, if not for their country? For blue woman, for Dinosaurs turians, NO, they fell the first. Have you seen, in whom shot a sniper? I saw - it was turian hask. And one more note, they have not bombed from orbit, on orbit no ships and this means that they are not trying to destroy the people, they want make Human-Reaper. Every decent, in Reapers opinion, nation turn into Reapers. Their motives are not to destroy, but to preserve decent nation. Why? They themselves, when they were alive, but only so, becoming flesh in metal, were able to continue to exist. Because they know, that others do not understand, They saw the death of not one galaxy, the stars were fading and organic life is disappearing. Such a monstrous way, they preserve decent race. 



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Just saw the trailer and was ALMOST disappointed for the lack of typical ME/Shepard soundtrack, but they snuck it in in the last secondsPosted Image

Awesome video, I am already hooked (again) ... can't ... wait ...

Modifié par AlexXIV, 13 décembre 2010 - 09:06 .


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scarface71795 wrote...

lekysma wrote...

wow,earth asking for help from the aliens, bound to make the illusive man have a heart attack, and what about all those human centrists organisations?

He doesn't hate Aliens but when it comes to him Humans come first and he wants to do everything to protect Humans No matter what it takes.
I doubt he would led personal feeling get in the way
also seeing how he encouraged Shepard to recruit a team of all the different kinds of Aliens.
TIM isn't as evil as he seems 
But he will kill both aliens and humans if it advances Humans as a whole.


The illusive man used human colonies to set a trap for the collectors, so I doubt he has personal feelings involved if a couple of million humans die. As long as humanity as a whole survives and surpasses all other species. Well we don't know what this video is about, it might show the result of a wrong decision. Or not, we don't know.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 13 décembre 2010 - 09:14 .


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This is the dumbest crap I had ever read... it was just a release trailer! You do not know yet.. if the focus is on earth or not! Its just a min clip. How can you say that the focus is on earth when the game isnt even out yet? Stupid people.

Can't even give Bioware a chance to release the game and people are already disappointed with something they know nothing about yet.

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TheNexus wrote...

Has anyone thought that maybe they attacked Earth to distract Shepard from their real target?



ahh.. a person with a brain.. love it! Thank you!:)

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yoomazir wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...
 "I hate ME2, it did this wrong, it did that wrong, its not an an RPG, bioware you suck balls OMGWTFBBQ J00SUXhAxXoRz!!!!1"


Thank you, you couldn't have spoken more truthful than that.
Of course, I'm talking about that Bioware sucking balls and all that you 've so rightfully wrote.

Ah yes, Yoomazir, the one who calls other people that enjoyed ME2 "pathetic losers". Go back to your dissapointment threads.

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AlexXIV wrote...
The illusive man used human colonies to set a trap for the collectors, so I doubt he has personal feelings involved if a couple of million humans die. As long as humanity as a whole survives and surpasses all other species.


It's not like the Collectors didn't attack colonies on their own.

TIM is frankly, the most sensible guy in the series. Well, he and Anderson.
We can see how politics works easily enough on Earth...it won't be any different in space. Watching out for your own is only smart.

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Hey ppl, the Reapers aren't THAT tough.



Remember, Sovereign arrives with a whole geth fleet? The citadel defense fleet had 1 DN and cruisers. The human fleet, which also apparently only had cruisers, lost only 8 ships.



Considering the number of ships involved on both sides..that really isn't much.

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Dem_B wrote...

This is not the beginning of the war, if the Earth is lost, then why fight?
*snip*
Their motives are not to destroy, but to preserve decent nation. Why? They themselves, when they were alive, but only so, becoming flesh in metal, were able to continue to exist. Because they know, that others do not understand, They saw the death of not one galaxy, the stars were fading and organic life is disappearing. Such a monstrous way, they preserve decent race. 


Humans were pivotal in demolishing the Reapers plans, not once, but twice. This paints a great big red bullseye on Earth. Logically (and machines work logically) you would take out the biggest threat to your campaign, whilst you are at full strength. You wouldnt enter into a war of attrition and leave your strongest enemy until last.

Have you seen, in whom shot a sniper? I saw - it was turian hask.

You were able to deduce that from a blurry, grainy image were you? Given the lack of leg and head spikes like all turians have, I give you an F in deductive reasoning.

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I wouldn't take the trailer as fact, it was a trailer made be a different company. The same goes for those ME2 cinematic trailers, which were meant to be cinematic and give you a feel for the game, but nothing in those trailers actually represented exactly what was going to happen in ME2. The only parts of those trailers consistent with ME2 were the characters themselves, and the locations, and the importance of loyalty.

I'd say the only thing you can take from the trailer is that Earth is under attack,some part of it will be set in London, the British dude will be in the game. And for those people who are asking why all the Reapers look the same, again, it's probably because BW only gave them the Sovereign model to put in the trailer, and will leave the other model reveals for in-game.

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The biggest letdown and cause of my disappointment is, as mentioned by many of my fellow fans, is the focus on Earth. Now, yes, assessing storyline, I can see an obvious focus on humanity. We are humans who discovered mass effect technology, and are discovering ourselves in a new golden age, but for the Reapers. But like many others, I have also groomed my Shepard to be seeking to make humanity an equal group among a civilization spanning the galaxy, not dominant or superior. We may be viewed as superior by the Reapers, based upon our actions, and rightfully so...I mean, yeah, we are probably the only species ever to give them fits. But the focus to Earth and humanity? It is glaring apparent. In the story of Mass Effect we players are escaping that boring blue planet we live on to explore space. We see earth every day. We work our assessing of on that planet to get by. We live and die on Earth. Earth becoming a focal point subconsciously shifts our perception of the Mass Effect IP away from the rest of the galaxy, thus consciously making the universe feel smaller and more narrow.




I have no problem with the focus on Earth. It's not OUR Earth after all. It's future Earth, making it almost as different as any random made-up planet.

It doesn't make the galaxy smaller, it doesn't do anything you're saying it does.

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I believe there's a chunk of story that's going to be told through ME 2 DLC in the build-up to ME 3.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Hey ppl, the Reapers aren't THAT tough.

Remember, Sovereign arrives with a whole geth fleet? The citadel defense fleet had 1 DN and cruisers. The human fleet, which also apparently only had cruisers, lost only 8 ships.

Considering the number of ships involved on both sides..that really isn't much.

They had a **** load of ships fighting just to take down one
They only have about 300 ships in the entire fleet
Plus Sovereign was pre-occupied with Shepard.
So he was double tasked and i hate the fact when people say Shepard killed a Reaper.
He only helped get the Alliance there.They are the ones who destroyed it.:bandit:

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

The biggest letdown and cause of my disappointment is, as mentioned by many of my fellow fans, is the focus on Earth. Now, yes, assessing storyline, I can see an obvious focus on humanity. We are humans who discovered mass effect technology, and are discovering ourselves in a new golden age, but for the Reapers. But like many others, I have also groomed my Shepard to be seeking to make humanity an equal group among a civilization spanning the galaxy, not dominant or superior. We may be viewed as superior by the Reapers, based upon our actions, and rightfully so...I mean, yeah, we are probably the only species ever to give them fits. But the focus to Earth and humanity? It is glaring apparent. In the story of Mass Effect we players are escaping that boring blue planet we live on to explore space. We see earth every day. We work our assessing of on that planet to get by. We live and die on Earth. Earth becoming a focal point subconsciously shifts our perception of the Mass Effect IP away from the rest of the galaxy, thus consciously making the universe feel smaller and more narrow.


I have no problem with the focus on Earth. It's not OUR Earth after all. It's future Earth, making it almost as different as any random made-up planet.
It doesn't make the galaxy smaller, it doesn't do anything you're saying it does.

The same could be said for Earth in Halo but i still felt attached when fighting for it.
"Earth is all we have left"-lord hood
I personally think this will have most of the colonies destroyed and the Alliance man handled.
So it will be Humanity's final stand. Which would make it even more epic
:o

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SithLordExarKun wrote...
 Ah yes, Yoomazir, the one who calls other people that enjoyed ME2 "pathetic losers". Go back to your dissapointment threads.


Glad to see you're still the same friendly person, some things never change in life...btw just out of curiosity do you use the same nickname (or a variant) for forums other than Bioware?

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scarface71795 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Hey ppl, the Reapers aren't THAT tough.

Remember, Sovereign arrives with a whole geth fleet? The citadel defense fleet had 1 DN and cruisers. The human fleet, which also apparently only had cruisers, lost only 8 ships.

Considering the number of ships involved on both sides..that really isn't much.

They had a **** load of ships fighting just to take down one
They only have about 300 ships in the entire fleet
Plus Sovereign was pre-occupied with Shepard.
So he was double tasked and i hate the fact when people say Shepard killed a Reaper.
He only helped get the Alliance there.They are the ones who destroyed it.:bandit:




Huh. Even if he only had the last strike on the reaper he still killed it. It is called 'killing blow'. Not saying that it is the same as single-handedly killing it all alone. Even though I bet he would even manage that if he had to.

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double post FTW

Modifié par yoomazir, 13 décembre 2010 - 10:21 .


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Anyway, it's just a trailer, let's wait and see, this time let's hope they release a little more of gameplay & exploration videos than they did with ME2...

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Bogsnot1 wrote...

Humans were pivotal in demolishing the Reapers plans, not once, but twice. This paints a great big red bullseye on Earth. Logically (and machines work logically) you would take out the biggest threat to your campaign, whilst you are at full strength. You wouldnt enter into a war of attrition and leave your strongest enemy until last.


Because people were critical, they are most ready to fight. They are not idle, other races did nothing. Not profitable to attack first on humanity because humanity is strong, more profitable for Reapers to strike at vulnerable targets, targets which are not will wait strike. If the Reapers got to the people, so most other races have already enslaved.

Have you seen, in whom shot a sniper? I saw - it was turian hask.

You were able to deduce that from a blurry, grainy image were you? Given the lack of leg and head spikes like all turians have, I give you an F in deductive reasoning.


I hope you remember salarians in the Saren laboratory, they sat in a cage, and when they let go, they pounced on you, they have not yet changed, but became mad -half-hasks, turians - same half-hask. Will see.

Modifié par Dem_B, 13 décembre 2010 - 12:22 .