ReveurIngenu wrote...
levannar wrote...
All right, to all the people complaining about Earth being in the trailer. As you say, you have the right to form an opinion. But please do consider that this is the first teaser trailer, and we have an entire year to go before the game comes out. Saying 'OMG They RUINED it I won't buy this crap!!!!' at this point is pretty ridiculous. Don't tell me you didn't expect Earth to be crucial in the endgame. Or if you did, perhaps take a look at the first two games again. We did not play as a turian, asari, salarian, elcor, volus, quarian, etc. We played as a HUMAN. Meaning, Earth holds a greater emotional value in the story than any other planet, whether you like it or not. Also, what's this about 'humans suddenly became the focus of the series'?
When we first set out in ME1, we were hunting a rogue Spectre who was supposedly trying to wipe out humanity. Then, as the story progressed, we learned that the entire galaxy was at stake. In ME2, we were trying to stop the Collectors, who were abducting HUMAN colonists. Not asari, not turian. Yet again, we later learned about their true motives and that they were a danger to the entire galaxy. Notice a pattern? It has always been about humans.
Also, I hate to break this to all those who claim that they're making the game better by complaining, but that is not true. What you do when jumping to the conclusion that the game's a piece of crap after seeing a one-minute footage that, judging by the tendency so far, probably isn't even taken directly from the game, is NOT constructive criticism. It is called flaming. The devs won't learn anything new when they read that--they already know they can't appeal to everyone.
And don't tell me that you hate that Earth will be the focus of the game until you know for a fact that it's really so. If I showed you a Star Wars trailer that has only footage from Tattooine, will you conclude that the entire 2+ hours of the movie take place there? If I showed you some Eden Prime footage from ME1 would you think the entire game is only about defending some no-name human colony? Do try to be just a little more reasonable.
And before anyone accuses me of blindly worshiping Bioware, I do not. There were things I didn't like in ME2, there are things I don't like in the news about DA2. But I reserve judgement until I start playing the game, and that method has payed off so far. It also helpes if you have realistic expectations. Saves you a lot of disappointment in life.
And again, we're not just going on from the trailer, but also EA's description of the game, which frankly, leaves little doubt as to how the game and trilogy will end. Here's the description again, just so I can point out certain details:
"Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of terrifying
machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As Commander
Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving mankind is to
rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one final mission to
take back the Earth."
So what? Are you going to rally the galaxy to launch one final mission to take back Earth, then keep playing and launch yet another mission to save the galaxy or other planets? I really don't see how the game could not end with saving Earth after such a clear and precise description of the game!
Meaning yes, EA most likely has taken the decision to make Earth the central focus of ME3, even if you do have to go around the galaxy "rallying" the other races leading up to the Earth-centered conclusion!
I think the reason I really hope I am wrong is that I really feel that saving Earth really should not be the main, final mission. I mean, what is so special about Earth? And why do the Reaper's seem so weak? One Reaper almost took out the Citedal. The entire Citadel forces and Shepard had to all work together just to stop one single Reaper at the end of ME1 (which still resulted in large casualties), and now, we have so many reapers in the trailer and they can't even take out one puny planet (for a race that's been capable of annihilating so many advanced species in the past, that just doesn't make any sense)?
Of course I'll wait to see more before making a final judgement. But I feel that waiting to see more is almost going to be synonymous with disappointment. I strongly feel that based on what we have seen so far, that the game will be primarily centered around (saving) humans and Earth (even if the Reapers plan to destroy the other races after destroying the humans, it still means that humans will be the only ones threatened in ME3, and I just don't see what reasoning could have made the Reapers only focus on the humans).
Okay, let me rephrase that description for you. Just in theory, okay? Let's say they change the location of the final battle to, say, Palaven.
"Palaven is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of terrifying
machines have begun their destruction of the turian race. As Commander
Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving the turian species is to
rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one final mission to
take back Palaven.[/i]"
Kind of 'meh', isn't it? Why the heck would they choose Palaven? It holds no emotional value.
As someone else said before me, there has to be a final battle. If there's a final battle, it obviously has to take place somewhere. Now, where could that be? Let's say we don't want it to be on Earth. Where else? The Citadel would be an obvious candidate. But, gasp, it already happened in ME1! Can't repeat that. So where else? I guess the other home planets can't be, for the reason stated above. Hmm. In a random part of the galaxy maybe? But what would the Reapers be doing there? Are they on their way somewhere? But where could they be going? To the Citadel? Again, repetitive. I don't think they'd stop to do battle, either.
My problem with your (and everyone else's) complaints is that the only thing you do is tell us what you don't like. Well, tough luck, my friend. What about actually suggesting a better way? Oh wait, you can't come up with one. As soon as you start thinking, you realize that designing a good game isn't as easy as it seemed when all you did was criticize. It's easy to talk about how you want the fight to be for the entire galaxy--but 'the entire galaxy' is sadly not something you can grasp and depict in a game. It's simply too big for that. Was the battle at the end of ME1 for the galaxy? No, it wasn't. The battle was for the Citadel. Because, if they took the Citadel, they would've moved on to the rest of the galaxy, one planet at a time. You knew that. Similarly, you know now that if you don't stop them at Earth, they'll move on and conquer everything else.
As for what makes Earth so special, you can't expect them to tell you that in a game description a year before the actual game comes out. Why? Because it'd be a spoiler. Did they tell you in ME1's description that (spoiler) the Citadel was actually a mass relay? Did they tell you in ME2's description that (again, spoiler) the Collectors were actually building a Reaper? No, they didn't. Did you whine back then that it made no sense for them to be collecting humans? I don't know, but most likely you did. Did it make sense in the end? I don't know about you, but to me it did.
And why do the Reaper's seem so weak? One Reaper almost took out the Citedal. The entire Citadel forces and Shepard had to all work together just to stop one single Reaper at the end of ME1 (which still resulted in large casualties), and now, we have so many reapers in the trailer and they can't even take out one puny planet (for a race that's been capable of annihilating so many advanced species in the past, that just doesn't make any sense)?
Excuse me? What makes you think they can't 'take out one puny planet'? To me, it looked like they were doing a fairly good job. Do remember please, that Sovereign's goals were different in ME1 than what the goals of the Reaper fleet are now. Sovereign was trying to capture the Citadel and let the fleet in from dark space. It didn't matter how many casualties there were, it didn't even matter if the Citadel itself was destroyed in the process. The only thing that mattered was to get reinforcements so that the harvest could finally begin. Once that happened, they wouldn't have just annihilated the rest of the galaxy--at least not if you believe Vigil, who clearly described to you how it had gone with the Protheans.
If a one-minute trailer and five lines of text made you sure you'll be disappointed with the game, then by all means, suit yourself. I just don't see why you have to come here and try to depress everyone else. To me it seems most of your concerns simply come from things we don't know yet, which is understandable considering how long it is until the game comes out. I'm not asking you to 'have faith in Bioware' or anything like that, but I think we can all agree that they don't leave giant plot holes like an attack on Earth for no reason in their work. If they told you the reasons now, chances are they'd spoil most of the plot. Considering how pissed people were about the spoilers in ME2's trailers, I don't think anyone wants that. Unfortunately, you can't have details without spoilers--if we leave spoilers out, that leaves us with a generic trailer and summary, which is the case here.
Modifié par levannar, 16 décembre 2010 - 11:55 .
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