Mass Effect 3 debut trailer - discussion
#176
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:24
And London in the ME universe! Awesome! They even put in the London Eye, I'm impressed it's still standing at all let alone in the midst of a Reaper invasion.
I feel sorrow for the ME forums though, over at the DA2 forums we've been battling nitpickers and ill informed complainers for months now, I expect it'll start anew over here pretty soon.
#177
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:25
And this whole thing about multiplayer in ME3: it's possible that Bioware is incorporating mulitplayer into this game, or they could also be having another team working on a different game in the ME universe with multiplayer for later release.
#178
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:25
#179
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:25
That is unless it is just London. Today Londons population is about 7,550,000, so in the time of Mass Effect it might be 14-17- million.daddyjah21 wrote...
Well, assuming the population of Earth is 12 billion at this time and the Reapers kill an average of 7 million a week, and people stop breeding at the sight of all the people stompy... Shepherd has 32 years to get help before everyone is dead. Literally crushing the life out of a species does not seem like an effective method of genocide
#180
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:26
Ah, this makes sense nowsmithgroup wrote...
No, its 7 mil ONLY from the UK. After he says 7 mil dead (9 total), he says reports are coming in from other major cities, but he doesn't mention their death toll.
#181
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:26
#182
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:27
Blacklash93 wrote...
Salarians are diverse enough to have their own sub-species, live for about 40 years and thus have higher reproduction rates, have been space-faring far longer, and humans still beat them out?Bocks wrote...
The-Person wrote...
I think he ment it in a genetic level and not in a social level. They were not making us into reapers because were socially superior.Bocks wrote...
You all seem to assume that Mass Effect should be centered around the position of humanity in the galaxy. This is just what I hate about most sci-fi's, they give you a universe full of interesting characters and races and yet they don't focus on for any reason. At first, most of the reasons that Harbinger gives for the alien races not being used instead of humans are good, but one specifically stands out: the turians.
"Too Primitive"
Really? Seriously, Bioware? Turians are "too primitive" while Humans have barely begun exploring space?
What, are you taking ideas from fanfictions?
That argument doesn't/shouldn't work at all. Turians have been around for much longer than humans, assuming their evolution goes at the same pace as that of humanity.
Hell, what's their argument for not using the Yahg? They're basically perfect, no? And don't give me that "they don't know about them" - I'm fairly sure the Reapers would know something like that, especially since Saren - the most trusted citadel spectre - was controlled by one.
Krogans show amazing adaptability and originally reproduced at insanely high rates yet have nothing in their genes to show for it?
Yes, it's stupid.
The krogans are severely endangered, and probably wouldn't have the population to support a new reaper. They also aren't as clustered as humans are.
Salarians have one of the shortest life spans, a result of their metabolism.
#183
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:28
Firespray38 wrote...
snfonseka wrote...
So now both Halo and ME series have something common. The last chapters of the both series are about saving Earth.
I think you forgot he whole "ancient, powerful race destroyed by another powerful race that existed before them, died in last ditch attempt to save/warn the galaxy" plot point that happens in both series.
Yep, you are right. I forgot that flood is an ancient race like reapers. So this means the similarity is so higher between ME and Halo.
#184
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:28
FsDxRAGE wrote...
There has to be something odd to this. Think about it, 7 million in a week isn't a lot....thoughts?
Global indoctrination maybe.
Modifié par Googlesaurus, 12 décembre 2010 - 03:28 .
#185
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:28
#186
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:29
#187
Guest_Drodjan_*
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:30
Guest_Drodjan_*
Yeah me too, I just remembered the beginning scene of ME1, when Hacket, Anderson and Udina are discussing Shepard's Spectre candidacy, and he is looking out of a spaceship onto Earth.Apollo Starflare wrote...
I love how reminiscent of the beginning of ME1 Shep staring out a window at Earth is. Considering how much the CGI trailers for ME games differ from the same events in the games themselves I'm not worried about any inaccuracies or strangeness at this point, the trailer does it's job of setting the scene for the third game and getting (most of) us excited. I feel certain that the events surrounding the attack on Earth and Shepard's new mission will be portrayed completely differently in game. I just hope the British sniper is recruitable.
Now, years later, having saved the galaxy twiced over, killed two Reapers, and achieved galatic fame, he looks over Earth as it is attacked by his archenemies, and, like always, has a plan.
#188
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:30
As a previous poster mentioned, if the Reapers could have made it back to our galaxy using normal mass drives, why not start chugging towards our galaxy when the "Reaper signal" failed to activate the relay in the first place?
I hope they answer these questions, and give the collector plot some merit other than "We needed someone to shoot at in ME2".
#189
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:30
Or when for that matter.Googlesaurus wrote...
No reason to complain about things you don't know. The Reapers may be attacking Palaven and Kahje and every other center of sentient civilization simultaneously; no one can postulate that Earth is the only battleground just from that one clip.FsDxRAGE wrote...
There has to be something odd to this. Think about it, 7 million in a week isn't a lot....thoughts?
Global indoctrination maybe.
#190
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:33
This will be an uphill battle.....I welcome the challenge
#191
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:33
However, without the citadel they would be unable to crush the entire galaxy with utter ease by shutting down communications and using the data records to hunt down all advanced sentinent life in the galaxy.
By stopping them in ME1 Shepard has given the galaxy a chance to fight back. And we know the things can be killed. And later in ME2 he built a team to help with the upcoming onslaught. This is very relevant.
If anything, the reapers should be attacking the citadel and not Earth. But maybe they are. Their attack could be galaxy wide. We dont know yet.
But one thing is for certain. I cant wait to find out.
Modifié par KVerde, 12 décembre 2010 - 03:37 .
#192
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:33
The-Person wrote...
Or when for that matter.Googlesaurus wrote...
No reason to complain about things you don't know. The Reapers may be attacking Palaven and Kahje and every other center of sentient civilization simultaneously; no one can postulate that Earth is the only battleground just from that one clip.FsDxRAGE wrote...
There has to be something odd to this. Think about it, 7 million in a week isn't a lot....thoughts?
Global indoctrination maybe.
Harbinger is going to assume control of the airwaves and spam Reaper propaganda. "WE WANT YOU"
Modifié par annihilator27, 12 décembre 2010 - 03:35 .
#193
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:33
Well what was the point of Empire Strike Back? How did it progress the Empire VS Rebels plot?William Adama wrote...
What was the point of ME2? Seriously. What exactly did that game do to progress the Reaper plot?
As a previous poster mentioned, if the Reapers could have made it back to our galaxy using normal mass drives, why not start chugging towards our galaxy when the "Reaper signal" failed to activate the relay in the first place?
I hope they answer these questions, and give the collector plot some merit other than "We needed someone to shoot at in ME2".
#194
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:34
That argument doesn't/shouldn't work at all. Turians have been around for much longer than humans, assuming their evolution goes at the same pace as that of humanity.
Evolution doesn't really work like that.
Hell, what's their argument for not using the Yahg? They're basically perfect, no? And don't give me that "they don't know about them" - I'm fairly sure the Reapers would know something like that, especially since Saren - the most trusted citadel spectre - was controlled by one.
They probably see the Yahg as promising, but it's probably too early to harvest them. Once they've left their planet, colonised others and made use of their Mass Relays (developing along the lines the Reapers see fit), then they'll be harvested.
Modifié par elmephd1, 12 décembre 2010 - 03:35 .
#195
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:34
It could also be that Earth is the closest home world from where the Reapers entered the galaxy from dark space.KVerde wrote...
A lot of people are pointing out how the the first two games are irrelevant because the reapers could just cruise on over and attack the anyways. They didnt need the Citadel for this which this new trailer makes very clear.
However, without the citadel they would be unable to crush the entire galaxy with utter ease by shutting down communications and using the data records to hunt down all advanced sentinent life in the galaxy.
By stopping them there Shepard has given the galaxy a chance to fight back. And we know the things can be killed.
If anything, the reapers should be attacking the citadel and not Earth. But maybe they are. Their attack could be galaxy wide.
Cant wait to find out.
#196
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:35
William Adama wrote...
What was the point of ME2? Seriously. What exactly did that game do to progress the Reaper plot?
As a previous poster mentioned, if the Reapers could have made it back to our galaxy using normal mass drives, why not start chugging towards our galaxy when the "Reaper signal" failed to activate the relay in the first place?
I hope they answer these questions, and give the collector plot some merit other than "We needed someone to shoot at in ME2".
ME2 had sequel-itus. Hopefully the plot for ME3 will be better.
#197
Guest_AwesomeName_*
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:35
Guest_AwesomeName_*
baron2009 wrote...
did simon peg do the voice over?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Definitely sounds like his extreme manly man voice
#198
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:36
William Adama wrote...
What was the point of ME2? Seriously. What exactly did that game do to progress the Reaper plot?
As a previous poster mentioned, if the Reapers could have made it back to our galaxy using normal mass drives, why not start chugging towards our galaxy when the "Reaper signal" failed to activate the relay in the first place?
I hope they answer these questions, and give the collector plot some merit other than "We needed someone to shoot at in ME2".
1. Hopefully, the plot of ME2 built your team for 3, and established how Reapers reproduce, while exhausting the Collector option, prompting them to come to the galaxy.
2. As stated above, the Collector plan was probably sort of a "plan C" ("plan B" being Sovereign come back to indoctrinate someone of power, build an army, and activate the conduit manually). Now that the second contingency plan has failed, the Reapers see no more options.
#199
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:36
KVerde wrote...
A lot of people are pointing out how the the first two games are irrelevant because the reapers could just cruise on over and attack the anyways. They didnt need the Citadel for this which this new trailer makes very clear.
However, without the citadel they would be unable to crush the entire galaxy with utter ease by shutting down communications and using the data records to hunt down all advanced sentinent life in the galaxy.
By stopping them there Shepard has given the galaxy a chance to fight back. And we know the things can be killed.
If anything, the reapers should be attacking the citadel and not Earth. But maybe they are. Their attack could be galaxy wide.
Cant wait to find out.
Good point, they wouldnt be able to take down the mass relays like they did agenst the Prothiens with out the Citadel.
So attacking earth first also makes sence becase ME2 was about them snaching humans to make the next gen of reapers. Maybe coming to the galixy with out the Citadel taxed them greatly and their first order of business is to bolster their numbers with some human reapers.
#200
Posté 12 décembre 2010 - 03:37
What I wanted to harp on for a second was the reveal of the MI6 Sniper in London. Now, we learned when ME2 was being previewed that Shepard could in fact die, for good, at the close of ME2 if you didn't prepare and you were a douche to everyone on your squad. With that, we learned that *if* Shepard dies in a game, the protaganist for ME3 would be a new Human Character. So, wouldn't logic dictate that this MI6 Sniper *is* that alternate Hero? Even though he speaks about Shepard coming to save Earth I don't see that as hindering him from being the Hero in the alternate timeline where Shepard did not survive the Omega Relay mission. Also, the face we see in game, much like Sheploo, could be the default face/gender. You would almost certainly be able to change the look of the character and thier sex. I don't know, I was just thinking about that and I thought that if BioWare chose to include even a hint of that in the Trailer it was a awesome nugget of infomation.
Anyway, the Trailer was fantastic. The shot of the Reapers and of Shep at the end was Epic. Words can not express how much I am looking forward to rallying the Rachni, Quarians, the Geth and hell even the Batarians to come come down on the Reapers like the Hammer of frakking Thor! Holidays 2011 can not come soon enough. Where's the Tardis when you need it?!





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