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[JeffZero]

Whoa, Taranatar. Is that a DS9 Relaunch reference?

[broncos1123]

SovereignT wrote...

glperez wrote...

i'm just wondering. it's supposed to be a trilogy, but what with platform x-over & the way gaming goes, there's no way it'll end on 3. anybody know anything about what comes after 3.

Well obviously the story of ME doesnt end in the aftermath of the trilogy, just the narrative story through Shep comes to an end thus the series finds a new course through a new narrative...

Absolutely... This is a cash cow for Bioware.  While Shep's story will end with ME3, there will be a new story, with a new character, in the same universe next.  Kind of like DAO to DA2.  Same world, different character and story. 

[Tamcia]

broncos1123 wrote...

SovereignT wrote...

glperez wrote...

i'm just wondering. it's supposed to be a trilogy, but what with platform x-over & the way gaming goes, there's no way it'll end on 3. anybody know anything about what comes after 3.

Well obviously the story of ME doesnt end in the aftermath of the trilogy, just the narrative story through Shep comes to an end thus the series finds a new course through a new narrative...

Absolutely... This is a cash cow for Bioware.  While Shep's story will end with ME3, there will be a new story, with a new character, in the same universe next.  Kind of like DAO to DA2.  Same world, different character and story. 

If its a quality game, then its win! 

[AzureLazer]

AwesomeName wrote...

Thruddle wrote...

AzureLazer wrote...

JKA_Nozyspy wrote...

I look forward to the explanation of how the Reapers even got into our galaxy, if we take the distances portrayed in the end cinematic to ME2 to be literal, it would take probably a couple of hundred thousand years, at least, to get into the milky way travelling at the speed of light.

^^^^^ THIS!

Seriously?

A standard mass effect drive can travel 12 light years in a day. That is 4383 times light speed. The reapers have a massive technological lead on us, so its likely they have a significant boost in that area.

It isnt exactly farfetched.

If the Reapers could just fly in that quickly, then why didn't Sovereign just tell the Reapers to do that when his signal failed, and just stay hidden for a few more years, until they showed up so that they could head over to the Citadel together?  That would be a massive plot hole, since it wouldn't explain why Sovereign went through all that trouble... Unless they explain that flying into the galaxy so fast is somehow dangerous for them to do, and is something they would only do as a last resort.  In any case, I hope that whatever alternative method they have for getting into the galaxy is something they consider highly dangerous as that would explain why it was so important that they use the Citadel (I'm actually hoping that they use Haestrom's sun, Dholen, to create a violent, raw portal).

This is so true , why would Sovereign ensure that the relay is activated if they can just fly in? Their must be some risk involved that makes the citadel relay a much more attractive option . If this is not the case then it's simply a flawed plot . 

[Icegodiss]

very excited. Anyone wonder if there will be a shocking beginning to ME3 like the KIA start for ME2?

[Chewin]

What really makes me wonder is how the squamates will work in ME 3. Which squadmates will be with you in the beginning with default Shepard? How will it work if almosy every squadmate died in ME 2?

Plus, I think Liara and Ashley/Kaidan will have some huge roles in ME 3, 'caus in an interview of ME 2, people asked why Liara and Ashley/Kaidan had so small roles in ME 2. The answer was that he wanted them to survive so they could be in ME 3. THis sounds really intresting

[Zan Mura]

Well I gotta say that while I trust BW to make a good game, I don't like this idea of putting humans on the center stage of all things. In ME we were a part of the galaxy, but only as a new and young race, still playing a vital role despite our size. Much like the hobbits in the Lord of the Rings. With ME2, the rest of the races of the galaxy that was far more advanced, evolved and powerful than us was all but forgotten when everything was pro-human. If ME3 is all about how humanity will save all, and how the final battle will be fought on a petty little thing like earth... well, that's seriously underwhelming for me.

I mean, I get the idea that we're supposed to be able to relate and all. We can, through Shepard and the Alliance. What I don't get is that we, knowing ourselves the flawed and childish things that we are, could hope to be the single greatest and most vital force in the galaxy within a couple of hundred years, when compared to aliens that are genetically superior to us and at the very least thousands of years ahead in technology.

To me, such a plot would seem incredibly self-centered and altogether unbelievable.

As said, I don't doubt BW can make it work. I'm just being honest to the fact that if all of the above will end up being the case, then I seriously believe there would have been far better ways to handle it.

Which is to say that I really hope the whole earth battle scene is just one of many, and the actual end battle will be fought on something that matters. The Citadel in ME, with its multitude of different races, its role as the center stage for galactic relations and contacts and incredible technological achievements seemed a thousand times more vital than one simple earth populated by humans. In our time, here, now, our planet is all we have. But I would hope that the masses can see past that what WOULD matter in the universe ME is set in, instead of needing something like this to relate to.

If ME3 culminates into saving earth, then the whole series will have a sort of backwards progression with regards to risk and severity of the situation. ME being all about insane galactic proportions of threat to all species everywhere, ME2 taking it down a peg to being about some petty scout creatures in our midst interested in only one species, and ME3 going even further down into being basically about a simple home planet of one of the species (even with the threat of reapers culling the entire galaxy still being there, that threat may not be fully realised if the focus in practice is on humans and earth).

Modifié par Zan Mura, 31 janvier 2011 - 04:13 .

[Tamcia]

AzureLazer wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

Thruddle wrote...

AzureLazer wrote...

JKA_Nozyspy wrote...

I look forward to the explanation of how the Reapers even got into our galaxy, if we take the distances portrayed in the end cinematic to ME2 to be literal, it would take probably a couple of hundred thousand years, at least, to get into the milky way travelling at the speed of light.

^^^^^ THIS!

Seriously?

A standard mass effect drive can travel 12 light years in a day. That is 4383 times light speed. The reapers have a massive technological lead on us, so its likely they have a significant boost in that area.

It isnt exactly farfetched.

If the Reapers could just fly in that quickly, then why didn't Sovereign just tell the Reapers to do that when his signal failed, and just stay hidden for a few more years, until they showed up so that they could head over to the Citadel together?  That would be a massive plot hole, since it wouldn't explain why Sovereign went through all that trouble... Unless they explain that flying into the galaxy so fast is somehow dangerous for them to do, and is something they would only do as a last resort.  In any case, I hope that whatever alternative method they have for getting into the galaxy is something they consider highly dangerous as that would explain why it was so important that they use the Citadel (I'm actually hoping that they use Haestrom's sun, Dholen, to create a violent, raw portal).

This is so true , why would Sovereign ensure that the relay is activated if they can just fly in? Their must be some risk involved that makes the citadel relay a much more attractive option . If this is not the case then it's simply a flawed plot . 

Energy? While they have tech to travel long distances, I would speculate it would reduce their energy reserves, leaving weaker functions when they arrive. 

[Zan Mura]

It's a pretty obvious safe bet that ME3 won't be about something as anti-climactic as beating up the Reapers because they were out of gas. Nah, there will be some surprise revelation of a weakness Shepard will eventually find a way to exploit etc.

[silhouette80]

Alcatan wrote...
Vigil stated that the Citadel was a trap, the Reapers were able to Shut down the Mass relay network isolate whole systems, then travel to each one and harvest every resource available, seemingly with no lossess whatsoever, using the sum total knowledge that was stored int he citadel database to find everyone in the prothean empire. 

You're forgetting the fact that up until now the Reapers had  the most important advantage in their favour.  Surprise.  If you're not suspecting an impending extragalactic invasion then when it does come you will not be able to cope with the onslaught.  The Reaper strategy is equivalent to blitzkrieg in space, just like the German invasions of Poland, the Low countries and France, who were not able to mount a sufficient defence to hold back the tide.  Since  the Protheans have robbed the Reapers of their number one tactical advantage, they have no choice but a full scale frontal assault on the galaxy.

[BatarianBob]

JeffZero wrote...

Whoa, Taranatar. Is that a DS9 Relaunch reference?

Yeah.  I started using this screen name back when the relaunch was still new.

[Black-Xero]

Zan Mura wrote...

It's a pretty obvious safe bet that ME3 won't be about something as anti-climactic as beating up the Reapers because they were out of gas. Nah, there will be some surprise revelation of a weakness Shepard will eventually find a way to exploit etc.

And it makes me curious on what that weakness is.I'm hoping that it won't be something random that the devs came up with to battle the Reapers.That would ruin the intensity from the battle.

[Avina]

I think the weakness will be a combination of energy depletion AND not having the Element of Surprise.



Either that or these new enemies, the more diverse ones, somehow are controlled by the Collector's Base, that way if you saved it, you can win, but if you destroyed it, you can't win, but you don't realize that until the near end of the game.

[TehFuZion]

theyll find a prothean relic that turns shepard into "the one"... =/



i kinda hope the bridging dlc takes us back through the omega 4 relay to inspect a few things.

which gives us reasons to replay ME2 ready for ME3?

[Pimin86]

i just hope we arent stuck at london alone. i want to fight next to famous sights.

for example, on the eifel tower, inside the taj mahal, at the acropolis, the mayan ruins.. etc..

[Therefore_I_Am]

The grand finale! Looks like this it...
And having said that;

Loved both ME1 & ME2 equally... There are valid explanations for the stories of both. You just have to think logically and hypothetically.
Haters complaining about things they don't know about

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 03 février 2011 - 12:43 .

[Therefore_I_Am]

silhouette80 wrote...

Alcatan wrote...
Vigil stated that the Citadel was a trap, the Reapers were able to Shut down the Mass relay network isolate whole systems, then travel to each one and harvest every resource available, seemingly with no lossess whatsoever, using the sum total knowledge that was stored int he citadel database to find everyone in the prothean empire. 

You're forgetting the fact that up until now the Reapers had  the most important advantage in their favour.  Surprise.  If you're not suspecting an impending extragalactic invasion then when it does come you will not be able to cope with the onslaught.  The Reaper strategy is equivalent to blitzkrieg in space, just like the German invasions of Poland, the Low countries and France, who were not able to mount a sufficient defence to hold back the tide.  Since  the Protheans have robbed the Reapers of their number one tactical advantage, they have no choice but a full scale frontal assault on the galaxy.

And shepard is one of the very few people who currently knows about this.

Zan Mura wrote...

Well I gotta say that while I trust BW to make a good game, I don't like this idea of putting humans on the center stage of all things. In ME we were a part of the galaxy, but only as a new and young race, still playing a vital role despite our size. Much like the hobbits in the Lord of the Rings. With ME2, the rest of the races of the galaxy that was far more advanced, evolved and powerful than us was all but forgotten when everything was pro-human. If ME3 is all about how humanity will save all, and how the final battle will be fought on a petty little thing like earth... well, that's seriously underwhelming for me.

I mean, I get the idea that we're supposed to be able to relate and all. We can, through Shepard and the Alliance. What I don't get is that we, knowing ourselves the flawed and childish things that we are, could hope to be the single greatest and most vital force in the galaxy within a couple of hundred years, when compared to aliens that are genetically superior to us and at the very least thousands of years ahead in technology.

To me, such a plot would seem incredibly self-centered and altogether unbelievable.

As said, I don't doubt BW can make it work. I'm just being honest to the fact that if all of the above will end up being the case, then I seriously believe there would have been far better ways to handle it.

Which is to say that I really hope the whole earth battle scene is just one of many, and the actual end battle will be fought on something that matters. The Citadel in ME, with its multitude of different races, its role as the center stage for galactic relations and contacts and incredible technological achievements seemed a thousand times more vital than one simple earth populated by humans. In our time, here, now, our planet is all we have. But I would hope that the masses can see past that what WOULD matter in the universe ME is set in, instead of needing something like this to relate to.

If ME3 culminates into saving earth, then the whole series will have a sort of backwards progression with regards to risk and severity of the situation. ME being all about insane galactic proportions of threat to all species everywhere, ME2 taking it down a peg to being about some petty scout creatures in our midst interested in only one species, and ME3 going even further down into being basically about a simple home planet of one of the species (even with the threat of reapers culling the entire galaxy still being there, that threat may not be fully realised if the focus in practice is on humans and earth).

Keep in mind that shepard was tasked by a biased organization... TIM wanted human dominance, and depending on your alignment, you can either be pro human and be TIM's "apprentice" or you can be the shining example for humanity and treat the aliens as equals. That's how I feel ME2 played out, that it was shepard's test on where he stood in loyalty. The same can be said for ME1 with Udina and Anderson. I bet when it comes to ME3, thats when all your past choices will materialize and you can choose the best course, Earth being one of many.... At least thats what I'm thinking. It all depends on alignment: Citadel or Earth. Council and other Species or Humanity and Cerberus/Alliance.

The whole collectors role was crucial in that, according to Harbinger, our species were the only ones with genetic malleability at that time and use us as harvested material. So it makes perfect sense for the reapers' plan to invade earth, especially with the collectors hadn't they been stopped. And while the invasion of earth is happening, the reapers would orbital bombard the other aliens' planets and homeworlds, knowing that they are not important to the reapers' design and should be brushed away.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 03 février 2011 - 02:07 .

[mdo7]

The graphic is beautiful and I'm planning to get this game whenever I have the chance to get it.

[Kidrik]

After watching that trailer, I'm redoing my ME1 and ME2 playthroughs.


Krogans?  You're getting genophage cure info.
Rachni?  Build Shephard an army worthy of Mordor...
Council? You're getting saved.  Human leadership would be compromised by a homeworld attack.

You have two years to breed an army to fight the reapers on earth.

[Mikey_205]

I really hope there isn't some cheap method to beating the Reapers like a super EMP. I want to actually see an epic fleet battle (I think they should have generated enough revenue to do something amazing). Tho I hope we get to do crazy stuff in the battle as Shepard such as board a live reaper and take it down from the inside whilst its turning him into a vegetable.



The fleet battle itself should be a culmination of choices you've made in Mass Effect 1 and 2 and the sort of universe you've crafted (are people self-sacrificing or is the battle a ruthless one with each fleet hoping to see the others decimated?) What secret/old allies might turn up to save the day and swing the outcome? Are there any secret weapons that might be brough to bear? I'd love the outcome of that fight to depend on all the major decisions you've made through ME1, 2 and 3. It would be the perfect crescendo to the series having every choice come full circle in one epic confrontation which then goes on to determine the relative fates of the various races and humanity.

[smilewarren22]

William Adama wrote...

What was the point of ME2? Seriously. What exactly did that game do to progress the Reaper plot?

As a previous poster mentioned, if the Reapers could have made it back to our galaxy using normal mass drives, why not start chugging towards our galaxy when the "Reaper signal" failed to activate the relay in the first place?

I hope they answer these questions, and give the collector plot some merit other than "We needed someone to shoot at in ME2".

silly. the whole point of ME2 was to show you why the reapers were interested in humans(to create a gigantic human reaper)...and im guessing this will be their point of attacking earth....and you forgot who the collectors were, the protheans, they modified them to suit their needs, slaves to the reapers...so im pretty sure that that was enough plot to make your jaw drop and saw...never saw that one coming.

people should think before they rant.

[Darion_Blackhammer]

Troll 1: Plotholes! QQQQ

Troll 2: Only 9 Million people in a week?! QQQQ

Troll 3: Trailer looks Grayed out ... too bleak. QQQQ

Troll 4: ME2 is completely irrelevant now! QQQQ

Troll 5: Why are Humans the center of the story?! QQQQ





I BET YOU'LL STILL PLAY IT! .... That is all.

[Brohammed]

Darion_Blackhammer wrote...

Troll 1: Plotholes! QQQQ
Troll 2: Only 9 Million people in a week?! QQQQ
Troll 3: Trailer looks Grayed out ... too bleak. QQQQ
Troll 4: ME2 is completely irrelevant now! QQQQ
Troll 5: Why are Humans the center of the story?! QQQQ


I BET YOU'LL STILL PLAY IT! .... That is all.

Despite the fact that I disagree with the above criticisms, they are all still valid.




On a related note, why are the reapers so small? They are described as being 2 km in the game. These ones are as big as skyscrappers or smaller.

[Greybox_Inception]

"i'm on it. unless something was already performed that prevented the reaper apocalypse.", shepard

i hope the music in mass effect 3 is awesome... (perfect dark, mass effect 2, final fantasy 13, inception, rainbow six vegas, crysis 2, elderscrolls 3, elderscrolls 4, matrix trilogy, e.s. posthumus type of awesome)

i can't wait to see what new squad members we'll get...and who's a new LI (better sultry scenes hopefully)...

Modifié par Greybox_Inception, 04 février 2011 - 03:55 .