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lgeass88 wrote...

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Wasn't 30,000 colonists missing? How can their be millions of them established on outer rim worlds recently colonized?

It was more than that and the 30,000 i was refering to was in real life.


Ah I see sorry I took your 30,000 as the confirmed abducted. Just looking over the figures now.

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Yes she did. But she also mentioned that her race was mind controlled by Reapers previously. So logically reapers can do that again, there is no reason to not to do that again.

You know humans can be indoctrinated by Reapers. Maybe Rachni takes twice as long as Humans because they have the support of their hive to fight it? Why does everyone thing the Rachni became indoctrinated instantly? They were perfectly isolated from the galaxy, and when discovered, they were already indoctrinated. It could have taken centuries.

Also, Internet Explorer sucks.


That can go both ways. If Reapers can control the hive mind of the queen, then that will be the end of the story.

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snfonseka wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Yes she did. But she also mentioned that her race was mind controlled by Reapers previously. So logically reapers can do that again, there is no reason to not to do that again.

You know humans can be indoctrinated by Reapers. Maybe Rachni takes twice as long as Humans because they have the support of their hive to fight it? Why does everyone thing the Rachni became indoctrinated instantly? They were perfectly isolated from the galaxy, and when discovered, they were already indoctrinated. It could have taken centuries.

Also, Internet Explorer sucks.


That can go both ways. If Reapers can control the hive mind of the queen, then that will be the end of the story.


Reapers would have to search planet by planet looking for holes in the ground to find the Rachni Queen... Its more realistic to assume they find TIM first then the Rachni Queen.

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Jagri wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Yes she did. But she also mentioned that her race was mind controlled by Reapers previously. So logically reapers can do that again, there is no reason to not to do that again.

You know humans can be indoctrinated by Reapers. Maybe Rachni takes twice as long as Humans because they have the support of their hive to fight it? Why does everyone thing the Rachni became indoctrinated instantly? They were perfectly isolated from the galaxy, and when discovered, they were already indoctrinated. It could have taken centuries.

Also, Internet Explorer sucks.


That can go both ways. If Reapers can control the hive mind of the queen, then that will be the end of the story.


Reapers would have to search planet by planet looking for holes in the ground to find the Rachni Queen... Its more realistic to assume they find TIM first then the Rachni Queen.


Yea. But they did it once! After all, who knows they are Reapers!

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Still it proves that no matter what you choose it may doom the galaxy despite if it's blue or red text.

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Vaenier wrote...

Jagri wrote...

Wasn't 30,000 colonists missing? How can their be millions of them established on outer rim worlds recently colonized?

Freedoms Progress had 1000000 colonists alone.
horizon had another 600000, but only halfish were taken.
there were also numerous other planets before that which prompted cerberus to get involved in the first place.


Including the two years where Shepard was dead and a while before then.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 16 décembre 2010 - 03:14 .


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If I keep hitting the red text will the Mass Effect universe become the Warhammer 40k universe?

I am wondering to the exact total of people being abducted. You would have to assume they weren't abducting colonies 365 days a year. More like perhaps a colony ever half a year without seriously drawing the attention of anyone? Every 3 months at the worse? During the events of the game Shepard did investigate one colony abduction that took place and appearently days later horizan started. Be it with the influence of Cerberus to help trigger it.

Modifié par Jagri, 16 décembre 2010 - 03:20 .


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Jagri wrote...

If I keep hitting the red text will the Mass Effect universe become the Warhammer 40k universe?

I am wondering to the exact total of people being abducted. You would have to assume they weren't abducting colonies 365 days a year. More like perhaps a colony ever half a year without seriously drawing the attention of anyone? Every 3 months at the worse? During the events of the game Shepard did investigate one colony abduction that took place and appearently days later horizan started. Be it with the influence of Cerberus to help trigger it.

you mean the alliance since kaiden/ashley was there first, right??

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lgeass88 wrote...

Jagri wrote...

If I keep hitting the red text will the Mass Effect universe become the Warhammer 40k universe?

I am wondering to the exact total of people being abducted. You would have to assume they weren't abducting colonies 365 days a year. More like perhaps a colony ever half a year without seriously drawing the attention of anyone? Every 3 months at the worse? During the events of the game Shepard did investigate one colony abduction that took place and appearently days later horizan started. Be it with the influence of Cerberus to help trigger it.

you mean the alliance since kaiden/ashley was there first, right??


http://social.biowar...5/index/5134461  <- Refere to this theory

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Destroying the collector base in the interest of putting the reapers at a disadvantage is silly, imho. They can just make a new one somewhere when they need to make more reapers.

It's not really going to matter all that much even if they do take it back.

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Not-metagaming, destroying the reaper-factory that was used to try to create a Reaper that could take down the Citadel and bring the Reapers back is the perfect way to be sure Reapers WON'T come back.

From all we know the only way for the reapers to come back is through the Citadel Rele. If you don't let them activate it by destroying the only structure that let them create reapers, you are already winning the war.

If you keep the Reaper Factory, chances are for the reapers to use it again to create a Reaper.

You're not being logical.

If the Citadel was the only way for the reapers to come back, then it wouldn't matter if you destroyed the base or not since they can't get back to it.

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I like the idea, if the base should be destroyed you might as well turn it into a massive trap.

Unfortunately for us, the reapers aren't stupid.

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Vaenier wrote...

2. I havent figured that out yet. figured i would just camp nearby or something. maybe hope the people on the base hit the red button first. atleast the bomb is perfectly secure. i could set up another quantum link thing that would just transmit an image to a closed circuit telivision. no ability to hack anything other than a monitor screen.

Hacking isn't magic despite what the game would lead you to believe. The reapers (or anything else) can't hack anything unless code is being executed. Things like sensors do not execute code of any sort. If the only thing you're receiving over the link is sensor data then there is nothing they could send over even if they got control of the other end.

Modifié par Inverness Moon, 16 décembre 2010 - 03:40 .


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Jagri wrote...

lgeass88 wrote...

Jagri wrote...

If I keep hitting the red text will the Mass Effect universe become the Warhammer 40k universe?

I am wondering to the exact total of people being abducted. You would have to assume they weren't abducting colonies 365 days a year. More like perhaps a colony ever half a year without seriously drawing the attention of anyone? Every 3 months at the worse? During the events of the game Shepard did investigate one colony abduction that took place and appearently days later horizan started. Be it with the influence of Cerberus to help trigger it.

you mean the alliance since kaiden/ashley was there first, right??


http://social.biowar...5/index/5134461  <- Refere to this theory

im not sure about that theory. i think the only real connection that was mentioned was that shepard was with cerberus but TIM sent that msg out everywhere.

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snfonseka wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Yes she did. But she also mentioned that her race was mind controlled by Reapers previously. So logically reapers can do that again, there is no reason to not to do that again.

You know humans can be indoctrinated by Reapers. Maybe Rachni takes twice as long as Humans because they have the support of their hive to fight it? Why does everyone thing the Rachni became indoctrinated instantly? They were perfectly isolated from the galaxy, and when discovered, they were already indoctrinated. It could have taken centuries.

Also, Internet Explorer sucks.


That can go both ways. If Reapers can control the hive mind of the queen, then that will be the end of the story.


It takes time for the subject to become a thrall of the Reaper. At any rate, the subject can become susceptible to suggestion but this goes hand in hand with the degenerative properties associated with indoctrination. The Reapers can rapidly indoctrinate the rachni and turn them into empty husks much quicker, nullifying their effectiveness. It seems more efficient than trying to control them if the Reapers needed to simply remove them out of the picture within the short timeframe.

Modifié par Spectre_907, 16 décembre 2010 - 04:39 .


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Spectre_907 wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Yes she did. But she also mentioned that her race was mind controlled by Reapers previously. So logically reapers can do that again, there is no reason to not to do that again.

You know humans can be indoctrinated by Reapers. Maybe Rachni takes twice as long as Humans because they have the support of their hive to fight it? Why does everyone thing the Rachni became indoctrinated instantly? They were perfectly isolated from the galaxy, and when discovered, they were already indoctrinated. It could have taken centuries.

Also, Internet Explorer sucks.


That can go both ways. If Reapers can control the hive mind of the queen, then that will be the end of the story.


It takes time for the subject to become a thrall of the Reaper. At any rate, the subject can become susceptible to suggestion but this goes hand in hand with the degenerative properties associated with indoctrination. The Reapers can rapidly indoctrinate the rachni and turn them into empty husks much quicker, nullifying their effectiveness. It seems more efficient than trying to control them if the Reapers needed to simply remove them out of the picture within the short timeframe.


The Reapers can rapidly indoctrinate any race however at the price of destroying their mind. So saying the Rachni are any less capable of defending themselves then say the average Cerberus operative is a mute point.

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Inverness Moon wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

2. I havent figured that out yet. figured i would just camp nearby or something. maybe hope the people on the base hit the red button first. atleast the bomb is perfectly secure. i could set up another quantum link thing that would just transmit an image to a closed circuit telivision. no ability to hack anything other than a monitor screen.

Hacking isn't magic despite what the game would lead you to believe. The reapers (or anything else) can't hack anything unless code is being executed. Things like sensors do not execute code of any sort. If the only thing you're receiving over the link is sensor data then there is nothing they could send over even if they got control of the other end.

The reapers can hack any brain of any spiecies without any physical link to it. Same thing with machines. So if they don't want that bomb to go off they can override it and the people guarding it. Nothing in a reaper enviroment is perfectly secure. Actualy the reapers are very good at making things seem like they are perfectly secure when they are not. The picture on your second quantum link does not have show the truth either.

You hope that someone or something will destroy the base before it is too late. If it doesn't, well then the galaxy may pay a high price for some holy grail tech that might not even exist or be actualy usefull.

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Who needs the base? Shepherd has balls of steel!

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And Femshep has ovaries of gold!



*drools over laptop*

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But seriously, what has to be done to bring the base discussion to a resolution before ME3?




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It's the age old choice of: destroy base for moral good but lose many more lives. Or keep base and save lives, but hand base over to a organization that has a terrible track record with big projects like a Reaper, and the whole Grayson fiasco.

No doubt some good will come out of the base in ME3 but sometimes you gotta make the hard choice in the long run.

Or maybe not. This is the beauty of Mass Effect

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lovgreno wrote...

Inverness Moon wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

2. I havent figured that out yet. figured i would just camp nearby or something. maybe hope the people on the base hit the red button first. atleast the bomb is perfectly secure. i could set up another quantum link thing that would just transmit an image to a closed circuit telivision. no ability to hack anything other than a monitor screen.

Hacking isn't magic despite what the game would lead you to believe. The reapers (or anything else) can't hack anything unless code is being executed. Things like sensors do not execute code of any sort. If the only thing you're receiving over the link is sensor data then there is nothing they could send over even if they got control of the other end.

The reapers can hack any brain of any spiecies without any physical link to it. Same thing with machines. So if they don't want that bomb to go off they can override it and the people guarding it.


They're not gods and they don't have magic. 

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lovgreno wrote...

Inverness Moon wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

2. I havent figured that out yet. figured i would just camp nearby or something. maybe hope the people on the base hit the red button first. atleast the bomb is perfectly secure. i could set up another quantum link thing that would just transmit an image to a closed circuit telivision. no ability to hack anything other than a monitor screen.

Hacking isn't magic despite what the game would lead you to believe. The reapers (or anything else) can't hack anything unless code is being executed. Things like sensors do not execute code of any sort. If the only thing you're receiving over the link is sensor data then there is nothing they could send over even if they got control of the other end.

The reapers can hack any brain of any spiecies without any physical link to it. Same thing with machines. So if they don't want that bomb to go off they can override it and the people guarding it. Nothing in a reaper enviroment is perfectly secure. Actualy the reapers are very good at making things seem like they are perfectly secure when they are not. The picture on your second quantum link does not have show the truth either.

You hope that someone or something will destroy the base before it is too late. If it doesn't, well then the galaxy may pay a high price for some holy grail tech that might not even exist or be actualy usefull.

You know what would really suck? If they guys who built the base just come back and build another one. Good thing they will never come back, oh wait...

Reapers can not hack machines from range without a wireless uplink. My bomb has no wireless uplink, plus it is shielded. If they are capable of manipulating my bomb from range, then they would be gods and we would have never stopped them in game one.

Brains are open to external stimuli. They constantly have their senses open to the world, plus could even be effected directly through electromagnetic pulses and harmonics. I dont know how indoctrination works, nor do I think Bioware even has a clue beyond you hear noise, but it seems like these pulses would be the best bet. get some lead, maybe even energy shields, and you are fine.

To hack the uplink, they would first have to find the uplink, and for that to occur, they would have to be seen by my sensors. so ya, they could hack the sensors, but it would be too late. Plus the sensors would be completely invisable short of searching every single piece of scrap metal around the station. But if they did find them, and hacked them quick enough, they could send me dirty pictures and angry words, right up until they fall into my black hole.

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Spectre_907 wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Yes she did. But she also mentioned that her race was mind controlled by Reapers previously. So logically reapers can do that again, there is no reason to not to do that again.

You know humans can be indoctrinated by Reapers. Maybe Rachni takes twice as long as Humans because they have the support of their hive to fight it? Why does everyone thing the Rachni became indoctrinated instantly? They were perfectly isolated from the galaxy, and when discovered, they were already indoctrinated. It could have taken centuries.

Also, Internet Explorer sucks.


That can go both ways. If Reapers can control the hive mind of the queen, then that will be the end of the story.


It takes time for the subject to become a thrall of the Reaper. At any rate, the subject can become susceptible to suggestion but this goes hand in hand with the degenerative properties associated with indoctrination. The Reapers can rapidly indoctrinate the rachni and turn them into empty husks much quicker, nullifying their effectiveness. It seems more efficient than trying to control them if the Reapers needed to simply remove them out of the picture within the short timeframe.

Why dont they use these magic indoctrination powers on the humans to sedate them till they fall into a giant blender? you have all these humans shooting at them on earth, why not just hover there, turn them all into slaves, then just ask them to enter your ship? zero damage to crop, minimum energy wasted, and the timeframe is about equal to what they are doing now.

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It's Saturday night. The Reapers are invading Earth. I have no date, a 2-liter bottle of Shasta, and my all-Rush mix tape.

Let's rock. B)


Harbinger:  HAHAHAHAHAHA.  INSTEAD OF SHOOTING AT WHERE I WAS, YOU SHOULD HAVE SHOT AT WHERE I WAS GOING TO BE.

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