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[Homebound]

I think what we're all saying is, its lame that in a galaxy full of life, humanity gets a massive ego-stroking.

[Hwalkerl]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Just occurred to me: maybe they usually went to the Citadel first in order to shut down the relays to corner their prey? They may not need the relays themselves, but with the system still active, the rest of the galaxy can run as fast as they can.

Wow that would be a great plot twist Never thought of that would make sense and back up the idea of having sometype of array or or other means to get back.  Even in Mass Effect 2 the Citadel still remained a mystery even after the revalation of what it really was.  You'd think they would try to explore more of its secrets especailly after the events in ME1 but again the main story took the backburner in ME1 such a shame but it should pick up momentum for the fianle since I mean the main antagoinst will appear

[atheelogos]

Hwalkerl wrote...

After seeing the VGA trailor of the Reapers on earth what are your ideas on how they got back?

I think there is probably another relay in the Milky Way possibly within our Solar System. Mars was mentioned alot in ME1 maybe there is a smaller gateway there almost a redundant backup to the "main"(to avoid spolier) one. I mean if you are a machine with any intelligence you would think of having redundant systems in place, maybe it's just taking longer to come back by using the other way.  It would make the most sense especially if they are attacking earth first.

Update Death toll and Size of Reaper Fleet:

It seemed to me that the idea of the Reapers was there numbers were so many something like 50,000 I mean an invasion fleet of 50,000 would take out earth in no time not even long enough to send a distress signal maybe not all of the Reapers could return through the second means...Just trying to make sense of just earth being attacked
maybe proximity to a gate but the death toll was only a few million you'd think it would be the entire planet in a matter of minutes especially with so many reapers! The death toll seemed underwhelming to say the least I though it would be much higher especially with such a large fleet and we saw what one ship did to half of the known galaxies defences in ME1.

" Reapers was there numbers were so many something like 50,000" Where did you get this number?

"how they got back?" I have a feeling they've always had the means to travel back the old fashioned way, but chose not to because they would lose the element of surprise if they did so. This isn't so hard to believe seeing as they must have traveled in this fashion to get to dark space in the first place. This, I think, also lends credit to my other theory. The Reaper are not just active in the Milky Way. I think their grasp extends to other Galaxies if not other universes, or am I thinking to much? lol

[Hwalkerl]

atheelogos wrote...

Hwalkerl wrote...

After seeing the VGA trailor of the Reapers on earth what are your ideas on how they got back?

I think there is probably another relay in the Milky Way possibly within our Solar System. Mars was mentioned alot in ME1 maybe there is a smaller gateway there almost a redundant backup to the "main"(to avoid spolier) one. I mean if you are a machine with any intelligence you would think of having redundant systems in place, maybe it's just taking longer to come back by using the other way.  It would make the most sense especially if they are attacking earth first.

Update Death toll and Size of Reaper Fleet:

It seemed to me that the idea of the Reapers was there numbers were so many something like 50,000 I mean an invasion fleet of 50,000 would take out earth in no time not even long enough to send a distress signal maybe not all of the Reapers could return through the second means...Just trying to make sense of just earth being attacked
maybe proximity to a gate but the death toll was only a few million you'd think it would be the entire planet in a matter of minutes especially with so many reapers! The death toll seemed underwhelming to say the least I though it would be much higher especially with such a large fleet and we saw what one ship did to half of the known galaxies defences in ME1.

" Reapers was there numbers were so many something like 50,000" Where did you get this number?

"how they got back?" I have a feeling they've always had the means to travel back the old fashioned way, but chose not to because they would lose the element of surprise if they did so. This isn't so hard to believe seeing as they must have traveled in this fashion to get to dark space in the first place. This, I think, also lends credit to my other theory. The Reaper are not just active in the Milky Way. I think their grasp extends to other Galaxies if not other universes, or am I thinking to much? lol

Actually your right about the size for some reason I was thinking it said somewhere in the lore 50,000 just check it up and there is no answer...found this though (Size).  So your right the size may be much smaller but my point is the same with so many planets in the galaxy what is the turnover time for the reaper fleet to wipe out one planet.  Even if smaller the rest of the argument I have made still remains valid although you are correct it was probably not 50,000 as I had thought.  

Your second Idea I have been thinking that too another great series could be made say for example if the Mass Relays were here before even the reapers and there were others to other galaxies it could open the possibility to an offshoot of other videogames within the Mass Effect universe. 

Modifié par Hwalkerl, 12 décembre 2010 - 06:51 .

[Zulu_DFA]

Maybe the Citadel isn't a dark space gate after all, and Vigil was lying?

[Locutus_of_BORG]

The Reapers built the mass relay system, while the current galactic races have only unlocked a few of the functions of only a few relays. Since we don't know the timeframe of ME3's plot, it's perfectly reasonable that the Reapers hiked it the hard way from beyond the galactic rim to the nearest relay and just took it from there.

ME3 might well take place a few years after ME2.

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 12 décembre 2010 - 09:08 .

[hong]

WelshKris wrote...

I think that the reapers use the sun that's giving off dark energy somehow to make another gate in the milky way.

I suspect it's the other way round, actually: the galaxy's races will use dark energy as a secret weapon to defeat the reapers, and Shep will be right in the middle of it.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

We know of two ways to blow up Reapers:



1) Shoot them with a zillion frickin' lasers, like Sovereign in ME1.



2) Shoot them in the heart with your machine gun, like the derelict in ME2.



I see the endgame being Shepard leading a resistance that organizes forces to storm the Reapers and shoot them in the hearts.

[Kalos X]

Has anyone considered the idea that there is an organic traitor, possibly someone close to Shepard? Perhaps indoctrination can be subtle enough to cause seemingly trustworthy people to act in unexplainable at the last second and in the worst way possible. I'm thinking Anderson, Udina or any of the other counselors secretly reopening the citadel for Reaper travel. I also have questions about the Illusive man and his motives for saving humanity. He could be trying to bring them back with the intention of becoming one of them... He did want that collector base after-all. Plus, look at those eyes!



Oh, and a 3rd way to kill reapers: Make the star in the system they're in go supernova. I bet that is one of Shepard's decisions at the end. Sacrifice humanity to save the galaxy.

[MaaZeus]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Just occurred to me: maybe they usually went to the Citadel first in order to shut down the relays to corner their prey? They may not need the relays themselves, but with the system still active, the rest of the galaxy can run as fast as they can.

That is a very good idea. They probaply do have backup relays but the Citadel relay is their preferred choice. They afterall lead all races there like cattles,making them build their dominant council there. Surprise attack there and it gives majority of the galaxy a huge moral blow. And if the Citadel has ability to control other relays IE disable them from use to all others except Reapers, and they have practically won. Every civilization and colony will be sitting ducks unable to go anywhere other than means of FTL and that has its limitations.

Great theory Cheez!

Modifié par MaaZeus, 12 décembre 2010 - 05:16 .

[Neo Hex Omega]

Because it was so heavily hinted at in ME2, I think the Reapers used the geth and the Collectors to build new dark space relays, using the element zero gained from destroying stars like Dholen.

[NvVanity]

I'm guessing the Reapers have access to means of travel more advanced then Mass Relays but it has a downside like draining their power or something along those lines making them more vulnerable to attack.

[Vaenier]

1. Space magic.

2. Plot hole.

3. Collapsed a star to form a temporary wormhole using dark energy to stabilize it.

[Zulu_DFA]

MaaZeus wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Just occurred to me: maybe they usually went to the Citadel first in order to shut down the relays to corner their prey? They may not need the relays themselves, but with the system still active, the rest of the galaxy can run as fast as they can.

That is a very good idea. They probaply do have backup relays but the Citadel relay is their preferred choice. They afterall lead all races there like cattles,making them build their dominant council there. Surprise attack there and it gives majority of the galaxy a huge moral blow. And if the Citadel has ability to control other relays IE disable them from use to all others except Reapers, and they have practically won. Every civilization and colony will be sitting ducks unable to go anywhere other than means of FTL and that has its limitations.

Great theory Cheez!

A shortcoming: if they'd like to disable the relay network, they could still attack the Citadel first (approaching it by the same method they've approached Earth). They probably just don't bother with the relay system.

[SmokePants]

I hope it was something they were reluctant to do, like canibalizing some of the reapers for parts to build a new relay. This is plan D for them, so it can't look like a better option than their plan C (Collectors) or plan B (Conduit).

[The Spamming Troll]

i dont think the reapers would only have plan A. as a matter of fact why do you think soveriegn gives up all that info so easily. he WANTS shepard to think the relays are the key.



practice makes perfect and the reapers sure have had alot of practice!

[klossen4]

dark energy maybe

[MaaZeus]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

MaaZeus wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Just occurred to me: maybe they usually went to the Citadel first in order to shut down the relays to corner their prey? They may not need the relays themselves, but with the system still active, the rest of the galaxy can run as fast as they can.

That is a very good idea. They probaply do have backup relays but the Citadel relay is their preferred choice. They afterall lead all races there like cattles,making them build their dominant council there. Surprise attack there and it gives majority of the galaxy a huge moral blow. And if the Citadel has ability to control other relays IE disable them from use to all others except Reapers, and they have practically won. Every civilization and colony will be sitting ducks unable to go anywhere other than means of FTL and that has its limitations.

Great theory Cheez!

A shortcoming: if they'd like to disable the relay network, they could still attack the Citadel first (approaching it by the same method they've approached Earth). They probably just don't bother with the relay system.

True. Didnt realise that. But then again they might be so mighty pissed at humans that they HAVE to go FIRST. Shepard has been quite a thorn at their backsides.

[Arbiter156]

what we are seeing in the trailer is probably the advance party, the full reaper fleet would be nigh on unstoppable.

[SmokePants]

Obviously, the writers can't allow the relays to be shut down. We wouldn't have a Mass Effect game if that were the case.

[Xivai]

They had to place all of the relays in the first place. My bet is they have some form of travel faster than what other species can do, but still not anywhere near as fast as the relays.

[Zulu_DFA]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i dont think the reapers would only have plan A. as a matter of fact why do you think soveriegn gives up all that info so easily. he WANTS shepard to think the relays are the key.

practice makes perfect and the reapers sure have had alot of practice!

Collectors were Plan A.

Sovereign was either rogue, or crazy or some sort of lost-left-behind-and-lonely Reaper, which screwed up and made Harby trigger the Plan A early.

[Annihilator27]

They flew there from the looks of it, Based off the ending of ME2.

Modifié par annihilator27, 12 décembre 2010 - 05:38 .

[MaaZeus]

Xivai wrote...

They had to place all of the relays in the first place. My bet is they have some form of travel faster than what other species can do, but still not anywhere near as fast as the relays.

True. Someone had to fly somewhere and build the relay. So it is very likely that Reapers do have much more advanced FTL than us, one that allows them fly even from darkspace back to the milkyway. Slower than the use of relays, but still possible. This also applies to how they got into darkspace in the first place.

Modifié par MaaZeus, 12 décembre 2010 - 06:08 .