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[Chuvvy]

Well considering the milkyway is 100 thousand ly across. And one ly is 5865696000000 miles. and if you multiply those two it would be unfathomably large. And they seemed to be rather far away, and Shepard hadn't aged much in the trailer. So I'm guessing plotmagic got them their in a year or so. Because even with ftl.



Oh and to put that number up there in layman's terms it's 500 quadrillion. A quadrillion seconds is 31709791 years, so yeah...

[Hwalkerl]

Slidell505 wrote...

Well considering the milkyway is 100 thousand ly across. And one ly is 5865696000000 miles. and if you multiply those two it would be unfathomably large. And they seemed to be rather far away, and Shepard hadn't aged much in the trailer. So I'm guessing plotmagic got them their in a year or so. Because even with ftl.

Oh and to put that number up there in layman's terms it's 500 quadrillion. A quadrillion seconds is 31709791 years, so yeah...

As funny as plotmagic sounds, I hardly think that Bioware would not have a decent explanation as to how they get back even if far fetched but then farfetched may equal plotmagic...

[Kalos X]

Plotmagic? faster than faster than light travel? The reapers use the relays to get around. It is that simple. Sovereign needed Saren and the Conduit. It seems perfectly logical that Harbinger uses an agent to reactivate the citadel.



As far as the plot is concerned, I believe it will be a major concern for Shepard's quest, he will likely have to uncover some kind of plot (possibly influenced by indoctrination) to bring the Reapers back or whatever reason Bioware decides to go with. Either way, Shepard will have to interact with this, it is far too important for BW to leave out of the plot.

[Shadesofsiknas]

Ok every time we see a ship use a relay it jumps from one relay to another. This means that two are required. So it makes sense that the Reapers have a relay out in dark space that allows them to jump to the receiving one(Citadel).



So with the Citadel not been an option they have to make a new recieving relay to serve as an alternative.



Im thinking that collapsing stars and dark energy are part and parcel of making new relays to allow them to jump back.



And perhaps these temp relays only allow a few ships at a time to jump, explaining why there are only a few Reapers attacking Earth and not 50000.



If this is the case perhaps after defeating the Reapers at Earth Shep can reverse engineer the Reaper star collapsing relay tech and jump to dark-space with the galaxies combined fleets and take the fight to the Reapers where they are vunerable.

[Grand Master Chief]

They were contacted by the collectors???

[Hwalkerl]

Grand Master Chief wrote...

They were contacted by the collectors???

Just a question did you play Mass Effect 1?  Another question did you read any of the preceeding posts?

[Shadesofsiknas]

Grand Master Chief wrote...

They were contacted by the collectors???

Who was exactly?

[AlexXIV]

Horses. I think they came back on horses.

[Annihilator27]

AlexXIV wrote...

Horses. I think they came back on horses.

Those steeds must be gigantic. I wonder how much It costed to get horse armor.....

[Pwner1323]

Plotmagic? That's ridiculous.



Shepard obviously found the fountain of youth since it took the Reapers 1000 years to get here. It will be explained in "The Pirates of the Caribbean 4: The Fountain of Youth" starring Seth Green as Jack Sparrow, Steven Colbert as Shepard and Queen Latifa as Miranda.



It's the bridgepoint between ME2 & ME3.

[Hwalkerl]

annihilator27 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Horses. I think they came back on horses.

Those steeds must be gigantic. I wonder how much It costed to get horse armor.....

lol

[Schneidend]

Relays are giant mass effect drive cores, reapers have really big mass effect drive cores.



Enough reapers pooling their fields together could, theoretically, create a column of zero mass.

[Commandant Bob]

Schneidend wrote...

Relays are giant mass effect drive cores, reapers have really big mass effect drive cores.

Enough reapers pooling their fields together could, theoretically, create a column of zero mass.

That's an interesting idea.
I will point out that Earth is relatively close to the edge of the galaxy.  They might have only had to travel 1/5 or so of the size of the Milky way.  It would take years, at least, to get to Earth anyway, but if they left at the end of ME1... they might make it not that long after ME2. 
Seperately, they must already have some sort of mass relay on the other side of the Citadel out in dark space.  Given that they created them, I think they could reprogram it's destination.
But if they did use some sort of alternate travel to get to Earth, why does the end of ME2 show their fleet just inching their way towards us?
Too confusing... i doubt we'll know until me3.

[Kalos X]

Commandant Bob wrote...

Schneidend wrote...

Relays are giant mass effect drive cores, reapers have really big mass effect drive cores.

Enough reapers pooling their fields together could, theoretically, create a column of zero mass.

That's an interesting idea.
I will point out that Earth is relatively close to the edge of the galaxy.  They might have only had to travel 1/5 or so of the size of the Milky way.  It would take years, at least, to get to Earth anyway, but if they left at the end of ME1... they might make it not that long after ME2. 
Seperately, they must already have some sort of mass relay on the other side of the Citadel out in dark space.  Given that they created them, I think they could reprogram it's destination.
But if they did use some sort of alternate travel to get to Earth, why does the end of ME2 show their fleet just inching their way towards us?
Too confusing... i doubt we'll know until me3.

I think the effect of having the Reapers sitting in deep space was supposed to look ominous. I doubt they were inching their way back at all.

Unless I'm seriously mistaken the whole point of the mass effect drive core is to reduce the mass of an object to allow it to travel at instantaneously fast speeds and arrive near another mass relay that brings the object back to its original mass.  Mass relays that aren't programmed to receive incoming objects from specific coordinates won't re-mass the object, therefore setting it in a perpetual state of masslessness, so they can't just shoot themselves off somewhere random. If the reapers could reprogram a mass relay to end up at another mass relay, Sovereign, or Harbinger would have done it ages ago. The whole point of ME1 was to stop Sovereign from reactivating the citadel mass relay.

It all makes me wonder if the reapers just use the mass relays like everyone else only having claimed to have invented them.

I am looking forward to Bioware's no-doubt fascinating explanation in ME3.

[Commandant Bob]

i don't think the Reapers were only using the Mass Relays, that would mean someone else is even bigger than them... The series needs a difinitive conclusion, and the Reapers can't be revealed to be small by comarison to an even more powerful group.

Also, when i said inching, it was relative. Even going 1000 times the speed of light is inching compared to the size of the mily way.

[Hwalkerl]

Kalos X wrote...

Commandant Bob wrote...

Schneidend wrote...

Relays are giant mass effect drive cores, reapers have really big mass effect drive cores.

Enough reapers pooling their fields together could, theoretically, create a column of zero mass.

That's an interesting idea.
I will point out that Earth is relatively close to the edge of the galaxy.  They might have only had to travel 1/5 or so of the size of the Milky way.  It would take years, at least, to get to Earth anyway, but if they left at the end of ME1... they might make it not that long after ME2. 
Seperately, they must already have some sort of mass relay on the other side of the Citadel out in dark space.  Given that they created them, I think they could reprogram it's destination.
But if they did use some sort of alternate travel to get to Earth, why does the end of ME2 show their fleet just inching their way towards us?
Too confusing... i doubt we'll know until me3.

I think the effect of having the Reapers sitting in deep space was supposed to look ominous. I doubt they were inching their way back at all.

Unless I'm seriously mistaken the whole point of the mass effect drive core is to reduce the mass of an object to allow it to travel at instantaneously fast speeds and arrive near another mass relay that brings the object back to its original mass.  Mass relays that aren't programmed to receive incoming objects from specific coordinates won't re-mass the object, therefore setting it in a perpetual state of masslessness, so they can't just shoot themselves off somewhere random. If the reapers could reprogram a mass relay to end up at another mass relay, Sovereign, or Harbinger would have done it ages ago. The whole point of ME1 was to stop Sovereign from reactivating the citadel mass relay.

It all makes me wonder if the reapers just use the mass relays like everyone else only having claimed to have invented them.

I am looking forward to Bioware's no-doubt fascinating explanation in ME3.

I wonder if the Mass Relays are older then the Reapers then?!?

[Schneidend]

Kalos X wrote...

Unless I'm seriously mistaken the whole point of the mass effect drive core is to reduce the mass of an object to allow it to travel at instantaneously fast speeds and arrive near another mass relay that brings the object back to its original mass.  Mass relays that aren't programmed to receive incoming objects from specific coordinates won't re-mass the object, therefore setting it in a perpetual state of masslessness, so they can't just shoot themselves off somewhere random. If the reapers could reprogram a mass relay to end up at another mass relay, Sovereign, or Harbinger would have done it ages ago. The whole point of ME1 was to stop Sovereign from reactivating the citadel mass relay.

In my theory, since the reapers pool their ME fields and create their own column of zero mass, they simply re-mass themselves.

My theory also assumes they don't have the juice to make it the whole way in one jump, so ME3 will take place at least a year after ME2, with the reapers making a series of jumps in that period.

[Kalos X]

Commandant Bob wrote...

i don't think the Reapers were only using the Mass Relays, that would mean someone else is even bigger than them... The series needs a difinitive conclusion, and the Reapers can't be revealed to be small by comarison to an even more powerful group.
Also, when i said inching, it was relative. Even going 1000 times the speed of light is inching compared to the size of the mily way.

The trilogy will be concluded, certainly. But there has been much discussion of spin-off games and the like. How cool would it be to have them find out that the reapers were lying about the mass relays all along and that there are relays linking to other galaxies?  This would set the stage for a beautifully long Mass Effect franchise full of potential. Shepard's story will be concluded, but it will open up a grand new stage for others waiting to go on an epic space journey.

The reapers actually need organics to come back to the galaxy, otherwise they would have done this in the first place.

I still feel like plotwise, they are going to have Shepard interact with this. In any good visual story there has to be a face to associate with the problem. I know the face of the reapers at this point is Harbinger, but it is out in deepspace and it is also too inhuman. There needs to be a Saren type of antagonist that can be hunted down and brought to justice, some kind of traitor to organichood. While not necessarily an antagonist, ME2 had the illusive man. This is where Shepard comes in, the face of human salvation. The other face is likely to be human(ish) as well, a traitor to humanity. I imagine this will be someone unexpected, or just as easily the illusive man himself.

Modifié par Kalos X, 14 décembre 2010 - 05:58 .

[Ahglock]

The reapers are green so they were going to use bio-diesel vehicles while car pooling but they decided to take mass transit and caught a bus.

[Gleym]

I imagine the Reapers got to Earth essentially via means of this nature:

[Hwalkerl]

Gleym wrote...

I imagine the Reapers got to Earth essentially via means of this nature:

Maybe the reapers find an improbabiility field and happen their way to the most unlikey, likey place, earth!

[RethenX]

The Reapers attacking Earth might be vanguard units like Sovereign, left behind as a first wave for invasion.

[Pwner1323]

Gleym wrote...

I imagine the Reapers got to Earth essentially via means of this nature:

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My guess is: PLOTMAGIC

[Northern Sun]

The Reapers took the I-200094 from Dark Space to Bismark, North Dakota, but Harbinger got off on the wrong exit and they ended up in London.

[SphereofSilence]

This idea is probably just a stab in the dark - I'm thinking it may have something to do with the Leviathan that was discovered by the Batarians decades back. Maybe they unknowingly woke that Reaper up.



Even it may turn out to be otherwise, I can't help but wonder what role will this Leviathan play for ME3 or beyond.



Anyways, IMO the most likely way how the Reapers comes back has got to have something to do with dark matter and the sun near the former quarian homeworld which was undergoing unnatural accelerated evolution. These two hints were just too heavy to be ignored.