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How do you think the Reapers got back?


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[quote]Gleym wrote...

I imagine the Reapers got to Earth essentially via means of this nature:
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Personally, I think actually the creator(s) of the first Reaper have created the Reapers and imbued them with the most of the abilities they have currently, and also created the mass relays and such. Since it is pretty clear that you can't create yourself from nothing (according to tales, gods can, but the existence of gods isn't proven yet :P).
However, the Reapers seem to have some pretty wicked tech... so it's likely they somehow got at Earth faster then the rest of the galaxy would be able to (except for Mass Relays)

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I think there were more Reapers lurking around the galaxy in hiding than we know about. Sovereign was the vanguard, once the Citadel was taken over, Reapers inside the Milky Way would then be activated to secure the arrival of the rest of the Reaper fleet.



Personally, I think planets like Ploba, Zayarter and Preying Mouth are locations where Reapers are actually lying in wait.

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maybe earth is a reaper built station hiding a mass relay on it's heart, an artificial planet. And humans are an experiment by reapers to grant genetic diversity. They created us, and now they want to harvest their creation

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They would have used the omega 4 relay

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The Smoking Man wrote...

They traveled through a plot hole.


lmao

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How do you think the Reapers got back?

Simple.

They cannibalized one of their own and used its parts to construct a mass relay right there in dark space.

They then connected this *new* mass relay with the already existing mass relay network, and then proceeded to travel around the galaxy the same way Shepard does.

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TIM messed up once too many.



Which also explains why they're at Earth, specifically.

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Not a single mention of Haestrom? I reckon the reapers will resort to their plan B: destabilizing Haestrom's star, Dholen, turning it into a crude portal through which they can enter the galaxy... Presumably this is a dangerous way for the Reapers to enter the galaxy, and something they would only do if they had no other choice. It's also possible that Sovereign initiated the process a long time ago in the event it failed to dock with the citadel.

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I'm going to look at LOTSB again. There's a keeper in one of the vids acting suspicious. They could have keeper spies who can just flip a switch to let them in.

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II J0SePh X II wrote...

I'm going to look at LOTSB again. There's a keeper in one of the vids acting suspicious. They could have keeper spies who can just flip a switch to let them in.

Play through mass effect again and you'll realize that's pretty much impossible. (can't say why, no spoiler allowed)

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revengeance wrote...

The Smoking Man wrote...

They traveled through a plot hole.


lmao


Lmao, haha

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Are, the reapers are appearing in ME3. We have dismissed that claim.

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perhaps they have built in mass effect relays? remmember they r 2000 years ahread of us

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With being unable to use their own creations (mass relays, citadel) I believe they moved towards our galaxy ever since they got co*kblocked in ME1, this means whey were already on move during the start of ME2.



Also, remember how ME2 happens mostly YEARS after ME1, this gives the reapers years to travel.



Sure it isn't as quick as relay jumping but they are still an advanced "race", and I am pretty sure they can disable the whole relay system once they arrive, as all the races depend on mass relay transportation if the reapers disable that they can easily conquer/harvest one system after another, noone will be normally able to send reinforcements.

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joriandrake wrote...

With being unable to use their own creations (mass relays, citadel) I believe they moved towards our galaxy ever since they got co*kblocked in ME1, this means whey were already on move during the start of ME2.

Also, remember how ME2 happens mostly YEARS after ME1, this gives the reapers years to travel.

Sure it isn't as quick as relay jumping but they are still an advanced "race", and I am pretty sure they can disable the whole relay system once they arrive, as all the races depend on mass relay transportation if the reapers disable that they can easily conquer/harvest one system after another, noone will be normally able to send reinforcements.


I don't think a few years of delay really justifies the Reapers' need for the citadel.   If it only takes a few years for the Reapers to fly in, then why would Sovereign risk its own survival when it could have just waited just a little bit more (by its own standards), remain hidden from everyone in the galaxy and just tell the Reapers to fly in instead?  No one would have seen that coming! 

No, I reckon the citadel cuts off far more than just a few years - centuries or millenia at least... Otherwise, saving the citadel will feel rather pointless...  So, no, I think the Reapers are forced to find another way into the galaxy, and I reckon destablising Haestrom's sun, Dholen is how they're going to do it.  If this is the case, then I hope that this is written as a crude and desperate act for the Reapers and that it's going to be dangerous for them to use (another reason for their preference for using the citadel).

But we'll see when ME3 comes out...

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I think they did fly here. I have no problem with that. The ME universe have FTL speed witch is pretty fast, and we don't know if reapers can fly even faster than that. Give them a few years and they should be able to travel here.

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1Man army wrote...

I think they did fly here. I have no problem with that. The ME universe have FTL speed witch is pretty fast, and we don't know if reapers can fly even faster than that. Give them a few years and they should be able to travel here.


That just leaves a gigantic plot hole like I mentioned above :(

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AwesomeName wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

With being unable to use their own creations (mass relays, citadel) I believe they moved towards our galaxy ever since they got co*kblocked in ME1, this means whey were already on move during the start of ME2.

Also, remember how ME2 happens mostly YEARS after ME1, this gives the reapers years to travel.

Sure it isn't as quick as relay jumping but they are still an advanced "race", and I am pretty sure they can disable the whole relay system once they arrive, as all the races depend on mass relay transportation if the reapers disable that they can easily conquer/harvest one system after another, noone will be normally able to send reinforcements.


I don't think a few years of delay really justifies the Reapers' need for the citadel.   If it only takes a few years for the Reapers to fly in, then why would Sovereign risk its own survival when it could have just waited just a little bit more (by its own standards), remain hidden from everyone in the galaxy and just tell the Reapers to fly in instead?  No one would have seen that coming! 

No, I reckon the citadel cuts off far more than just a few years - centuries or millenia at least... Otherwise, saving the citadel will feel rather pointless...  So, no, I think the Reapers are forced to find another way into the galaxy, and I reckon destablising Haestrom's sun, Dholen is how they're going to do it.  If this is the case, then I hope that this is written as a crude and desperate act for the Reapers and that it's going to be dangerous for them to use (another reason for their preference for using the citadel).

But we'll see when ME3 comes out...


Well Sovereign purpose was not only to activate the relay. He would observe the civilizations and let the reapers in when they were ready to be harvested.

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1Man army wrote...

Well Sovereign purpose was not only to activate the relay. He would observe the civilizations and let the reapers in when they were ready to be harvested.


I'm not sure you really see the problem with them just flying in... If they could just fly in, then Sovereign wouldn't have made its presence known and therefore alert anyone of the Reapers' existence and would instead just tell the Reapers to fly in... without anyone, including Shepard, Cerberus, Saren, etc. from ever suspecting anything.

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It wouldn't really surprise me if they don't explain how they got there, "they just are."



I hope that it does get explained though, and if I had to guess I would say that they opened some secret portal that nobody knew about.

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It wouldn't really surprise me if they don't explain how they got there, "they just are."

I hope that it does get explained though, and if I had to guess I would say that they opened some secret portal that nobody knew about.


I reckon their whole "we just are" spiel is just their philisophical view of their existence.  They probably define words like "beginning" and "end" a bit differently, and perhaps they even think that everything in the universe has no beginning or end and is all just energy and matter changing states.  But I digress...

Yeah I think a desperate plan B portal is most likely - Haestrom's star, Dholen seems to be a popular rumour.

Modifié par AwesomeName, 23 décembre 2010 - 11:22 .


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You know, I believe Sovereign was something like a mission commander, among other things, and why wouldn't he try to get the Citadel to speed things up? If you need to travel to India would you travel on foot, or would you take a plane?



I also think the Citadel was supposed to be a huge trap for the other species, just like the reapers made the mass relay network to have species evolution rely on their own tech, and thus easily sabotage them.





Also, reapers shown us until now a huge ego, I doubt Sovereign ever considered anything in this galaxy as a real threat to it, and until its "brain" in the cyborg body was defeated its a fact that nothing the united space fleet threw at him worked.

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joriandrake wrote...

You know, I believe Sovereign was something like a mission commander, among other things, and why wouldn't he try to get the Citadel to speed things up? If you need to travel to India would you travel on foot, or would you take a plane?
(..)


Well exactly, but in the case of ME, the "walk to India" shouldn't be a few measly years, but at least several centuries (maybe even millenia) - otherwise it just introduces a gigantic plot hole as mentioned further up. 

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Well they could have a reaper send a signal into a mass relay nexus (like for example Arcturus) and open a portal to dark space, (doing what the Citadel would do but on a much smaller scale) so then maybe a hundred or a little less than that punch through Charon and right to earth. While some would fly to the Citadel and unleash the rest of the reaper fleet at the Citadel.

This could be very wrong, but I think it could work. I don't see why they wouldn't be able to do this in the first place or at least have this or a similar plan handy for just incase.

(forgot this was a no spoiler forum but anyway fixed.)

Modifié par skcih-deraj, 24 décembre 2010 - 03:03 .